We obviously don't deserve better

Mergers don't even exist in this country anyway. I can't think of a single one in recent times that has been anything other than just a takeover of one club by another.

When you talk about it being 'in your blood' the difference I think between us and other big sporting nations like australia and the usa is that, whilst we love the sports themselves, it's the 'clubs' that are in our blood.

Theres too much tradition, history, family ties etc with sporting clubs in this country to just 'merge' for convenience and hope that the fans will just get on with it. Sports are all about competition and rivalry anyway - what's the point of eradicating one of the best in the world by merging two massive names in our game just so the RFL can stick another london club in SL that no one cares about?

Obviously not, both teams are beyond pathetic given the playing staff we have. Now I know we are missing Dobbo, Newton and Vella but thats life in RL terms and we still should be trying

for every step forward theres 3 steps back so far his year

weve lost 3 games we should have won already because of a lack of effort, the next 5 games are MASSIVE now, if we dont come out well then the plays could be gone already IMO

as for Hull, they need to bite the bullet sooner rather than later and splash the cash on a big name coach, they have a good squad already, just need someone to point them in the right direction IMO

yes very quite in both camps today, not even much trolling, oh well might put some matches on of the 80s when we where both worth watching

, whoops musnt but 1980 on

Neither team are in a particularly bad player availability situation. FC are trying, I won't fault our effort this season, we're not falling off tackles for example, we're just rubbish.

I'm very surprised Rovers have only won one of your last 4 games, but if you get a couple of wins from the next few, I can see you getting your main players back and mounting a decent play-off challenge. At FC we have only Ogre as a key player out and failed dismally against a ragbag of a Wakefield side last night at home. Neither of us should be very optimistic at the moment. Attendances are certainly on the slide at FC, which is very concerning.

I've decided to buy Morgan and Agar a lighter, because they keep losing their matches

The problem is that there is not enough quality players coming through both teams, overrated overpaid oversears players are killing hull and rovers. I,ve posted on fc website that were going to end up as feeder clubs for the so called big four and there will be nothing we can do about it.I personally think that neither team will compete for honours in sl because of the talent drain of having to teams in sl.We were a better team when you were in the northern ford because we didn't have to compete with you for younger talented players in our city,this is no way a dig but the raelity is there for all to see.

Terrible.





It's an interesting comparison this weekend. Who was the worst?

Wheres the tumbleweed smiley...

Firstly, thats less than what Fc get at present so i fail to see how that would be a forward step, secondly as someone has already pointed out, you would still only be able to spend up to the cap in which case you could still end up where we are now but without the rivalry, imo people are wrong to assume that one team would mean guranteed success, in fact it could even have the reverse effect as the local rivalry always has and always will play a huge part in promoting interest in the game in this city. Without it that interest could dwindle and fade away especialy if the one merged team wasnt performing well, you could then end up with more people choosing to watch the local football team, assuming of course that it was doing well and perhaps in the Premeirship.

You've worn it out

The worst thing is we've been in front in front by more than one score in each of the games we have lost

Got a bit "cocky" then, to use an Agarism.

Not really a time for trolling, situation for both clubs at the moment but nothing that can't be turned around. Would sooner have all the rivalry and banter with both clubs battling at the top rather than the bottom.

at Hull I don't think the problem is the young players that come through it is what we decide to do with them once they make it to the first team.

Tommy Lee is a good example, given great reviews in the youth game, we then spend years changing his position from Half-Back to Hooker (and bulking him up to play there) before putting him back to the halves again...and ended up completely wasting him.

Washbrook is another who's played a variety of positons, and has become a jack of all trades and a master of none.

We've already started to mess around with whether we play Briscoe as a winger or a centre each week.

Houghton is the only recent player who we have let play one position and develop into a top player.

Why raise the question about Hull FC this is the Hull KR forum Phil

I thought i'd let them contribute to the situation seeing as though for the second year running we are both turning out pathetic performances at the same time on a consistant basis

What you deserve in life and what you get don't often match. And I don't see that we're any more entitled to success than any other set of fans.

We're 2 and 4 - bit cack, but hardly a catastrophe.

No we wouldn't!!

It's not the most enjoyable period we've had in the Super League that is for sure, oh well prepare myself for the delights of Widnes on friday

Hull FC are underperforming, Rovers have found their level.

And then you wake up with your sock still on and all wet