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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"Dont confuse us saying Hull will win with negativity.
You wont hear many saying it around Good Friday time.
But the team Morgan will pick shows he really is using this game to try different things out.
And lots of the young kids will be involved.'"
I think you're missing the point. Rovers have named more players, granted, but have a settled core team that finished 4th in the regular season, and, as Zod said, have won 5 from 6. As you have mentioned on many occasions, you finished above us in the reserves comp as well and have signed Ratu and Hodgson, so these "kids" are not genuine rookies. FC's team will take time to gel, and it's unlikely that things will be the finished article on their first outing. I don't understand why people are tipping FC to win. The hype around the new signings has been excellent, hence fantastic take-up in season and testimonial tickets, but anyone expecting a slick FC performance should give their head a bang.
Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend" Having said that iF Rovers won how negative would the Hull fans be then
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Nonsense, for the reasons stated. Both teams blooding new players and combinations. Rovers 4th, FC 12th. Rovers 5 from 6. It would just be business as usual.
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| So looking forward to the game tommorrow, first time attending the "derby" looking forward to a great atmoshpere
Any recomendations of a local eatery/pub should land in Hull at noon, cheers
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I think you're missing the point. Rovers have named more players, granted, but have a settled core team that finished 4th in the regular season, and, as Zod said, have won 5 from 6. As you have mentioned on many occasions, you finished above us in the reserves comp as well and have signed Ratu and Hodgson, so these "kids" are not genuine rookies. FC's team will take time to gel, and it's unlikely that things will be the finished article on their first outing. I don't understand why people are tipping FC to win. The hype around the new signings has been excellent, hence fantastic take-up in season and testimonial tickets, but anyone expecting a slick FC performance should give their head a bang.
Nonsense, for the reasons stated. Both teams blooding new players and combinations. Rovers 4th, FC 12th. Rovers 5 from 6. It would just be business as usual.'"
The team Hull are putting out is far more experianced to the one Rovers are.
The settled team thing doesnt come into it given the starting 13 Rovers are naming.
Ratu and Hodgson - i doubt if they are into double figures for SL appearannces between them so that point is flawed.
Hull have targetted this game as its their only freindly against SL opposition.
If that Rovers team tomorrow wins the negativity will be all over your forum and you know that.
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"The team Hull are putting out is far more experianced to the one Rovers are.
The settled team thing doesnt come into it given the starting 13 Rovers are naming.
Ratu and Hodgson - i doubt if they are into double figures for SL appearannces between them so that point is flawed.
Hull have targetted this game as its their only freindly against SL opposition.
If that Rovers team tomorrow wins the negativity will be all over your forum and you know that.'"
Aren't the following 15 first team regulars from the last 2 seasons aren't playing then?
Shaun BRISCOE
Kris WELHAM
Jake WEBSTER
Liam COLBON
Paul COOKE
Michael DOBSON
Rhys LOVEGROVE
Scott MURRELL
Scott WHEELDON
Clint NEWTON
Ben GALEA
Ben COCKAYNE
Jason NETHERTON
Ben FISHER
David MILLS
Being honest, I don't expect FC to win, just because of the fact they've not played a single game together with big changes having been made. 8 places is a big gap to close, and Reece Lyne, who'll be playing for us, is only 16.
Doesn't mean I'll be all doom and gloom though, unless we incur any injuries.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I think you're missing the point. Rovers have named more players, granted, but have a settled core team that finished 4th in the regular season, and, as Zod said, have won 5 from 6. As you have mentioned on many occasions, you finished above us in the reserves comp as well and have signed Ratu and Hodgson, so these "kids" are not genuine rookies. FC's team will take time to gel, and it's unlikely that things will be the finished article on their first outing. I don't understand why people are tipping FC to win. The hype around the new signings has been excellent, hence fantastic take-up in season and testimonial tickets, but anyone expecting a slick FC performance should give their head a bang.
Nonsense, for the reasons stated. Both teams blooding new players and combinations. Rovers 4th, FC 12th. Rovers 5 from 6. It would just be business as usual.'"
Answered your own question there I think.
I think Hull will win tomorrow. The one dimensional 5 forward barges & a kick approach Agar clearly favours is perfect for playing in January. Not so good in the summer though.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"What is negative about it? I think that it is a good thing that Justin may experiment positionaly with a few players aswell as handing debuts to numerous players. Can only be a good thing long term for Rovers.
Surprised Agar isnt taking the same opportunity with Kent, Briscoe, Tuffour, Aldous, Nicklas etc.'"
i think the reason he isnt giving these young kids a chance is that Agar really wants this win, Its his team now with his signings and a win will breed confidence, where as a loss and a poor showing will have SOME fans saying "here we go again"
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| Lets be right about it it doesn't matter wither way really, I want to see us come through unscathed after a good hit out.
The last time we played Hull in a friendly we won the first 24 meaningful games
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| Quote ="tonylRobin"i think the reason he isnt giving these young kids a chance is that Agar really wants this win, Its his team now with his signings and a win will breed confidence, where as a loss and a poor showing will have SOME fans saying "here we go again"'"
I disagree about Agar desperately wanting the win bit, even though a win would be nice. If we're only having 2 preseason friendlies this year before the start of the season, surely you want to be playing your best team in both matches to help them gel so you're up and running for the first game?
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| Quote ="Hutchie"you talk some poop and it gets worse every time'"
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| i think we will win,but its meaningless so i really dont care.you beat us twice last season and if we win the friendly but lose the competetive games this season i will be very dissapointed.injury free n no headbangers causing trouble is all i ask
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"
Having said that iF Rovers won how negative would the Hull fans be then
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Not in the slightest, it's a pre season friendly
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| Quote ="General Zod."See my post above mate - totally agree. If Agar doesn't get the win then he will really feel the pressure mounting in anticipation of another humiliating season...'"
That's even more bollox than the normal bollox you spout
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I think you're missing the point. Rovers have named more players, granted, but have a settled core team that finished 4th in the regular season, and, as Zod said, have won 5 from 6. As you have mentioned on many occasions, you finished above us in the reserves comp as well and have signed Ratu and Hodgson, so these "kids" are not genuine rookies. FC's team will take time to gel, and it's unlikely that things will be the finished article on their first outing. I don't understand why people are tipping FC to win. The hype around the new signings has been excellent, hence fantastic take-up in season and testimonial tickets, but anyone expecting a slick FC performance should give their head a bang.
Nonsense, for the reasons stated. Both teams blooding new players and combinations. Rovers 4th, FC 12th. Rovers 5 from 6. It would just be business as usual.'"
Dont complicate things with logic it only confuses.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"icon_lol.gif Dont complicate things with logic it only confuses.'"
Mrs B's logic even thinks Hull have more debutants than Rovers
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| 32-10 to Hull.
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| Quote ="El Chupacabra"I disagree about Agar desperately wanting the win bit, even though a win would be nice. If we're only having 2 preseason friendlies this year before the start of the season, surely you want to be playing your best team in both matches to help them gel so you're up and running for the first game?'"
but then your young squad members wont have played in any warm up matches at all, wheres the sense in that? maybe a meaning less kinda friendly like Rovers played against York would have worked for Hulls youngsters too?
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| Commentator on the derby states looking at both teams it looks like Rovers are looking at the picture picture whilst Hull fc have picked their strongest team to win the match.
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| Just got back from the game and I'll try to be impartial:
Plus points for us - no injuries, everyone got a run out and Dobson carrying on where he left off. I'Anson looked good start of second half. Minus points - we were pretty much dominated by a bigger pack and will need back up (Clinton) before the season starts. I thought this was the reason for us giving away so many penalties, we were struggling to slow Hull down. Strength in depth not that strong. In saying that, Hull had their near full strength team out apart from a couple of players although I thought we took advantage of that in the early stages of the second half. I thought Hull had us on the rack in the first half but didn't really interchange many players and didn't have a lot of cohesion, they then looked tired against our fresher players early in the second half and we stepped up the pace and caught them cold. We also then tired late in the game when Hull's six started to tell again. I though Cookie was pretty quiet for us and we looked sharper with I'Anson at 6. Our play was quicker and slicker with him and I think Cookie needs to be used at 13 and not in the halves. Both teams will take positives, we will be there or there abouts this season, from Hull's point of view, keep Long fit and they will be pushing top 6. They looked pretty strong considering they have a few new faces and it was there first outing although we always looked dangerous in there 20 and there goal line defence wasn't that impressive. Would have been interesting to see us with not so many interchanges and how we would have fared with players tiring quicker. Our outside backs again look good, we need to keep Webster fit, Ratu was impressive and all we are lacking is a 6. The pack is my main concern, a couple of injuries and we will struggle, especially against the big aggressive packs like Wire, Hudds. and now dare I say it Hull. I was surprised they didn't give away more pens. that Luaki is always near to the edge of legality, but Fitzgibbon looked a good signing, with a good workrate. O'Meley put in a few "hoolywood" hits but didn't do much with ball in hand. But early days for both teams, still a loy of match fitness to be gained and gelling of new players.
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| Quote ="insider knowledge"<snip>.'"
Think that is a very fair assesment of the game.
Dobson was excellent for you in the second half and got you right back in, like us keeping Long fit (which I entirely agree is a worry), KR need to keep Dobson fit.
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| Agreed, we would miss Dobbo probably more than you would miss Long.
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| Quote ="tonylRobin"the FC fans i work with are making out like its the CC final lol, i have to keep reminding them its only a friendly...'"
Isn't every derby a final to KR fans, lets be honest its being a while since you've being involved in a major final!
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| Quote ="insider knowledge"Just got back from the game and I'll try to be impartial:
Plus points for us - no injuries, everyone got a run out and Dobson carrying on where he left off. I'Anson looked good start of second half. Minus points - we were pretty much dominated by a bigger pack and will need back up (Clinton) before the season starts. I thought this was the reason for us giving away so many penalties, we were struggling to slow Hull down. Strength in depth not that strong. In saying that, Hull had their near full strength team out apart from a couple of players although I thought we took advantage of that in the early stages of the second half. I thought Hull had us on the rack in the first half but didn't really interchange many players and didn't have a lot of cohesion, they then looked tired against our fresher players early in the second half and we stepped up the pace and caught them cold. We also then tired late in the game when Hull's six started to tell again. I though Cookie was pretty quiet for us and we looked sharper with I'Anson at 6. Our play was quicker and slicker with him and I think Cookie needs to be used at 13 and not in the halves. Both teams will take positives, we will be there or there abouts this season, from Hull's point of view, keep Long fit and they will be pushing top 6. They looked pretty strong considering they have a few new faces and it was there first outing although we always looked dangerous in there 20 and there goal line defence wasn't that impressive. Would have been interesting to see us with not so many interchanges and how we would have fared with players tiring quicker. Our outside backs again look good, we need to keep Webster fit, Ratu was impressive and all we are lacking is a 6. The pack is my main concern, a couple of injuries and we will struggle, especially against the big aggressive packs like Wire, Hudds. and now dare I say it Hull. I was surprised they didn't give away more pens. that Luaki is always near to the edge of legality, but Fitzgibbon looked a good signing, with a good workrate. O'Meley put in a few "hoolywood" hits but didn't do much with ball in hand. But early days for both teams, still a loy of match fitness to be gained and gelling of new players.'"
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| Quote ="pmarrow"Isn't every derby a final to KR fans, lets be honest its being a while since you've being involved in a major final!'"
Think it was the 'big game at the Halliwell Jones... the one that put us back with the big boys and has since relegated FC to also-rans in the fair city of Hull
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