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| Quote ="Roverswall"Ahm...
However, he is presently considering his options, with the deal on the table from Rovers thought to be worth considerably less than he was on at the Black and Whites last season.
So maybe it is
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Rovers: Sorry graham we can't afford anything more than 12k
Horne: Sod that, I'd get more at ABI!
Rovers a month later: Please come graeme we've managed to find an extra 6k so now the offer is 18k.
Horne: Think I'll wait and see if anything else comes up.
That's how I'm seeing it!
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Any proof we have? Thought not.'"
FC were the only club in SL who were prepared to offer Berrigan a 3 year deal with a 4th year option. Your last 2 season's finishing proves he was a stupid investment because of the space he took out of the cap for you.
Quote ="east hull FC fan"The fact is you've signed a player deemed not good enough to be part of the FC squad, even for 18k.'"
Fair point. But that 18k will come out of the extra 50k top of the £1.6M cap space so yet again, I'll trust Morgan.
Quote ="east hull FC fan"Pre season is a month away and you've signed no one that can take you forward and you're risking being over taken by clubs that have seriously improved, that includes FC.'"
Listen pal, FC are e and have no chance what-so-ever of over taking us next year - even if we signed no-one else (which we will).
We could have signed old has-beens like Fitzgibbon but chose to pass because if we are to improve on last years' position then we need quality and the current market dictates that quality players are often under contract which takes time to negotiate with the contracted player's club.
Anyway, besides Fitzhenry, all of the players who contributed in our last 5 match winning run are still at the club yet we signed Cook, Ratu & Hodgson and plan to sign at least another 2 top-class players so FC fans getting giddy proves how stupid they are.
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| Can't really see what's in a deal like this for Horne, he'd be better off going to Celtic.
Sign for Rovers, on less money as a player who's job will be keeping Mills company or go to Celtic on probably more money and whilst you're getting towards the back end of your career perhaps actually play a bit of Rugby.
Hardly motivational is it?
I'd rather we spent an extra 18K on youth development.
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| Quote ="General Zod."FC were the only club in SL who were prepared to offer Berrigan a 3 year deal with a 4th year option. Your last 2 season's finishing proves he was a stupid investment because of the space he took out of the cap for you.'"
So not then?
Quote ="General Zod."Fair point. But that 18k will come out of the extra 50k top of the £1.6M cap space so yet again, I'll trust Morgan.'"
as it would of done for us, still not deemed good enough!
Quote ="General Zod."Listen pal, FC are poop and have no chance what-so-ever of over taking us next year - even if we signed no-one else (which we will).
We could have signed old has-beens like Fitzgibbon but chose to pass because if we are to improve on last years' position then we need quality and the current market dictates that quality players are often under contract which takes time to negotiate with the contracted player's club.
Anyway, besides Fitzhenry, all of the players who contributed in our last 5 match winning run are still at the club yet we signed Cook, Ratu & Hodgson and plan to sign at least another 2 top-class players so FC fans getting giddy proves how stupid they are.'"
Well you've certainly made me laugh with that one! I can almost smell your concern/fear.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Cant wait for the back pedalling to start if King and G Horne are announced by rovers.
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| FWIW i thought Graeme was our best back early in the season until the injury he picked up. Statistically he made good metres and has good footwork which means he also is fairly good on tackle busts. Good pair of hands on him too. I know it's unpopular but i think he's a really good squad player and will be a good signing for Rovers. (pains me to say it too)
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| Quote ="Alex Mc"I would be physically sick if we signed Paul King'"
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| Quote ="Alex Mc"I would be physically sick if we signed Paul King'"
But not as much as Rommel if Radford went to Saints.
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| Quote ="Alex Mc"I would be physically sick if we signed Paul King'"
Me too. that would be an awful signing. Horne I could live with, he is 24 and isn't injury riddled and covers a few positions at a reasonable level. For the right money his signing makes sense, its a shame he wasn't coming from Bradford or Wigan, then no-one would be even commenting on it.
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| Quote ="rover49"Me too. that would be an awful signing. Horne I could live with, he is 24 and isn't injury riddled and covers a few positions at a reasonable level. For the right money his signing makes sense, its a shame he wasn't coming from Bradford or Wigan, then no-one would be even commenting on it.'"
True,but if everyone on these forums did that,we would all be redundant.
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Our club's wage structure has been completely overhauled.
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| Quote ="General Zod."FC were the only club in SL who were prepared to offer Berrigan a 3 year deal with a 4th year option. Your last 2 season's finishing proves he was a stupid investment because of the space he took out of the cap for you.'"
Our poor performance over the last two seasons has nothing whatsoever to do with lack of cap space. Poor recruitment and retention, dodgy coaching, and a certain amount of bad luck were the main factors.
We had plenty of cap space last season that simply wasn't used for a variety of reasons.
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Best of luck to Graeme.'"
He has some skill, but lacks consistency and makes too many stupid mistakes. Maybe a change of scenery will be good for him.
Good squad player if signed at a reasonable price, but unlikely to be anything more IMO.
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| Quote ="General Zod."
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Typical Zod bollox. Fitzgibbon played for Australia in the World Cup Final less than a year ago and he would walk into every Super League team.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Any proof we have? Thought not.
The fact is you've signed a player deemed not good enough to be part of the FC squad, even for 18k.
Pre season is a month away and you've signed no one that can take you forward and you're risking being over taken by clubs that have seriously improved, that includes FC.'"
The season has'nt started yet so how can you claim to have seriously improved,perhaps in six or seven months you might be able to make such a claim but untill then, its nothing more than wishfull thinking on your part.
The amount of new signings you have made will take time to gell, the
season could be half over by time they do.
If you read the Australian press you will also find a couple of your new signings had very average seasons, so i would'nt start shouting from the rooftops just yet as you could be left with egg on your face.
As regards rovers new very good signings, keep watching this space, they are on their way, please, feel free to bookmark this post if you so wish .
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G. Horne - Not good enough to take us to the next level.'"
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G. Horne : No, not good enough for SL, only getting a game at Hull due to the injuries at the club.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Welcome to Craven Park, Graeme.'"
Cue Zod saying he was 100% correct at the time of posting and is also 100% right now. The definition of hypocrisy, I think you'll find.
Just waiting now for G Horne to turn them down, then he'll have been right the first time.
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| Quote ="pmh"Can't really see what's in a deal like this for Horne, he'd be better off going to Celtic.
Sign for Rovers, on less money as a player who's job will be keeping Mills company or go to Celtic on probably more money and whilst you're getting towards the back end of your career perhaps actually play a bit of Rugby.
Hardly motivational is it?
I'd rather we spent an extra 18K on youth development.'"
He wants to stay in the Hull area, so i cant see him chasing the welsh pounds
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Typical Zod bollox. Fitzgibbon played for Australia in the World Cup Final less than a year ago and he would walk into every Super League team.'"
Indeed, knocking FC signing O'Meley, Fitzgibbon and Long but then signing Graeme Horne.
I think the realist Rovers fans know their squad is weaker for 2010 than it was for 2009. They wont admit it on here though.
As ive said above though Graeme will be a good signing.
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| Quote Quote "Big Dave T"Indeed, knocking FC signing O'Meley, Fitzgibbon and Long but then signing Graeme Horne.
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As ive said above though Graeme will be a good signing.[/Quote '" '"
he is hardly ever injured and can cover, good signing if things start to look bleak
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| Quote ="General Zod."Nope. This potential signing does not inhibit any of the £1.6M cap space utilised for our top-25 players.'"
Is this your 25?
Shaun Briscoe
Ben Cockayne
Peter Fox
Liam Colbon
Jake Webster
Chev Walker
Kris Welham
Paul Cooke
Michael Dobson
Chaz I'Anson
Scott Spaven
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Clint Newton
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Any proof we have? Thought not.
The fact is you've signed a player deemed not good enough to be part of the FC squad, even for 18k.
Pre season is a month away and you've signed no one that can take you forward and you're risking being over taken by clubs that have seriously improved, that includes FC.'"
If he signs then i believe the original contract offer was around 20k which for a player with his experiance would make him a value for money squad member.
Signing Scott Wheeldon who was deemed not good enough by Agar worked out okay.
As for improvement Hull need to perform on the field 1st before you can claim they have caught other teams up.
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