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| Ok could have more improvement in him if you want to be so pedantic
At no point did i say other players do not improve also.
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| Kris Welham has made the grade despite-
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-only turning full time in his early 20s.
He deserves massive respect for his achievements thus far and will only get better.
How good would he be at present had he been awarded Craig Halls opportunities......
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Surely its all about how these players are developing and not by matching last years appearance stats!'"
welhams improved very well under morgan, its clear he plays to his strenghs in wel disciplined displays hopefully with more experience he'll be able to attack with more freedom and be able to gain the art of putting his winger away, something most english centres haven't got a clue about.
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"Ok could have more improvement in him if you want to be so pedantic
At no point did i say other players do not improve also.'"
were am i been pedantic? its your quote.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"Kris Welham has made the grade despite-
-not been in a super league scholorship scheme
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-only turning full time in his early 20s.
He deserves massive respect for his achievements thus far and will only get better.
How good would he be at present had he been awarded Craig Halls opportunities......'"
how long was welham at hull for? how longs he been at hkr?
he hasn't had halls opportunities because he didn't have the same talent as him at the same age.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"Kris Welham has made the grade despite-
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-only turning full time in his early 20s.
He deserves massive respect for his achievements thus far and will only get better.
How good would he be at present had he been awarded Craig Halls opportunities......'"
TBF nobody is saying Welham doesnt deserve credit but saying he isnt a top super league centre. your points dont really change that do they?
He may improve and I think he will but I think there are a few more talented centres in super league.
Give Hall his credit because he must have earnt and deserved the opportunities he has received so far. He didnt get picked for international duty out of pity.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"TBF nobody is saying Welham doesnt deserve credit but saying he isnt a top super league centre. your points dont really change that do they?
He may improve and I think he will but I think there are a few more talented centres in super league.
Give Hall his credit because he must have earnt and deserved the opportunities he has received so far. He didnt get picked for international duty out of pity.'"
Where have i knocked Craig Hall?
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| Quote ="R.B.A"
How good would he be at present had he been awarded Craig Halls opportunities......'"
Maybe you should have acknowledged Hall's achievements to avoid confusion!
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Maybe you should have acknowledged Hall's achievements to avoid confusion!
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Northern Rail winners medal?
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Brilliant achievement, not surprised though he came from a very good ameture set up
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Ameture being the operative word.
How fans of a tin-pot team who finished a lucky 12th in the SL have got the gaul to post on here (a team who finished top-four) is beyond me.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"Northern Rail winners medal?'"
Played for his country bud.
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| Quote ="General Zod."Ameture being the operative word.
How fans of a tin-pot team who finished a lucky 12th in the SL have got the gaul to post on here (a team who finished top-four) is beyond me.'"
if we make the top 8 can we discuss things next season?
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"OK.
Lets make it simple for you.
Welham = Ever Present in the team that finished 4th in the Table.
Hall = Fringe Player and loaned out in the team that finished 12th.
If you take the time to digest what is actually posted then you might not make yourself look so much of a fool.
Ive posted that if they both reach full potencial Hall will be the better player.
But as things stand Welham has had a far far better season then Hall and deserves credit for that.
Its up to Hall to change that opinion.'"
So by your reckoning, every player at rovers is better than their equivalent players at every club below them in the table?
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"All that applies to Kevin Penny on the wing and id rather stick pins up my jacksy then see him in a Rovers shirt.'"
Penny's quick, nothing else. Hall has exceptional attacking ability. If you're really being serious in your comparison then I think you should join the soprts team at blunderside as you'd fit in well
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| Quote ="General Zod."Ameture being the operative word.
How fans of a tin-pot team who finished a lucky 12th in the SL have got the gaul to post on here (a team who finished top-four) is beyond me.'"
Are you talking about the trawler that went down years ago?
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| You have to laugh at the Hall lovers, he was that good he was loaned out to a NL1 side when not being deemed good enough for a bottom four S.L. team whilst Welham was deemed good enough to be worthy of a place in Super League all season.......and now certain Hull fans are bigging him up like they did Tommy Lee.
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| Quote ="Big Spender"You have to laugh at the Hall lovers, he was that good he was loaned out to a NL1 side when not being deemed good enough for a bottom four S.L. team whilst Welham was deemed good enough to be worthy of a place in Super League all season.......and now certain Hull fans are bigging him up like they did Tommy Lee.'"
He's only 21 years old! Hall is still developing and progressing dont forget he had to play full back for 6 games to cover our injuries so never had the luxury of a settled place. Te loan move helped his confidence IMO and he came back alot better for it.
You must admit he was rather good in the CP derby?
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| Quote ="General Zod."Ameture being the operative word.
How fans of a tin-pot team who finished a lucky 12th in the SL have got the gaul to post on here (a team who finished top-four) is beyond me.'"
What are you on about, I was merely pointing out Kris came from a very good amateur team.
Tin-pot team what a bitter sad poster you are and for the record I will post where ever I wish too
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| Quote ="knocker norton"He's only 21 years old! Hall is still developing and progressing dont forget he had to play full back for 6 games to cover our injuries so never had the luxury of a settled place. Te loan move helped his confidence IMO and he came back alot better for it.
You must admit he was rather good in the CP derby?
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Remind me of that result please
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Don't forget placings are restated following the play-offs. They ran several weeks at 2nd, dropped to third but surrendered that placing (and an easier play-off tie) at Wakefield in the last regular game. Shipped 74 points in the play-offs to end up 6th. As Charlie Mullan pointed out on Sports Talk this week, they got lucky with the fixtures as well.
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Only in terms of prize monies. The history books will always show that Hull KR finished 4th in SL 2009.
How can any team get "lucky" with the fixture list? Scrap that, Huddersfield managed it by playing Celtic in Edinburgh.
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| Quote ="The Goroka Gene-ius"Only in terms of prize monies. The history books will always show that Hull KR finished 4th in SL 2009.
How can any team get "lucky" with the fixture list? Scrap that, Huddersfield managed it by playing Celtic in Edinburgh.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Ask Mullan. He said you got Warrington after the CC final when they'd been out on the lash all week, and there was another one he cited, can't remember (might have been one of the Saints games?) Don't shoot the messenger.
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as apposing to FC who were neither lucky or unlucky with the fixture list, just shoyte all year.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Ask Mullan. He said you got Warrington after the CC final when they'd been out on the lash all week, and there was another one he cited, can't remember (might have been one of the Saints games?) Don't shoot the messenger.
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Played Saints the week after their Challenge Cup semi final defeat?
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