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| Quote ="pmarrow"It depends on what games you are judging him from. I mean at the start of last season he was under some preassure and his confidence was shot and his first few games yeah he was having some bad games. But then you can look how he performed at the back end of 2006 and in 2007, were he was the perfect full back. He made one or two mistakes, but all full backs do and even Briscoe makes them himself. I remember when we beat Leeds away 42 - something and Motu was brilliant, he was solid at the back and his kick returns were deadly at least about 3 or 4 times he ran 60/70 metres up the pitch were we would then go on to score. Motu can also come into the line and has before today linked up well with our wide men, we didn't see much of that last season due to the fact he was injured for alot of it.
I don't dislike Briscoe, I wouldn't be bothered if he was our FB ahead of Tony but don't let your hatred for FC get in the way of acknowledging that Moty Tony is a very good full back.'"
Allthough at times (like most of us) I could be slightly biased towards my team, I'm not that blinkered.
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| Quote ="cbr1100xx"What about our injuries long term?
Daniel Fitzhenry
Shaun Briscoe
Jake Webster
Paul Cooke (other reasons but was still missed)
Jason Netherton
Clint Newton
Scott Murrell
Chris Chester to name a few, try again.'"
James Webster?
Mind you he was out the door faster than you can say "He won't be fit to play again for the rest of the season."
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| Quote ="General Zod."'Put or shut up' for posting my table prediction just like every other poster? - idiot.
It is my opinion that Rovers will [iprobably[/i finish higher than Huddersfield, Bradford and Wigan though as I say that is only [iprobably[/i and therefore certainly not good grounds for an evens bet.
It is also my opinion Rovers will certainly finish above Hull.'"
ill give you 3-1 that HKR wont finish 5th or above,
surely if they finish above Hull, Hudds, Bradford, Wigan and Hull your expecting them to finish 5th or above
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"ill give you 3-1 that HKR wont finish 5th or above,
surely if they finish above Hull, Hudds, Bradford, Wigan and Hull your expecting them to finish 5th or above'"
Hull KR are unlikely to be in the top 6 although they might just make the 8.
Hull KR just dont have any strength in deapth.
Saints, Leeds, Wigan, Wire, Bradford, Catalans are all far better teams than Hull KR.
The last 2 top 8 places will be up for grabs and I think KR might just get one.
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| Quote ="odemwingie"Hull KR are unlikely to be in the top 6 although they might just make the 8.
Hull KR just dont have any strength in deapth.
Saints, Leeds, Wigan, Wire, Bradford, Catalans are all far better teams than Hull KR.
The last 2 top 8 places will be up for grabs and I think KR might just get one.'"
Post of the season
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| Quote ="GJB"Shame for you his other duties as fullback aren't quite as strong, you have a super player then. He's not exactly great under the high ball, is he.'"
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| Quote ="kim-or-lee"James Webster?
Mind you he was out the door faster than you can say "He won't be fit to play again for the rest of the season."
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James Webster....the player Agar wanted to keep for 2009.
But then again he doesn't have a lot of say in team matters does he
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| Quote ="odemwingie"Hull KR are unlikely to be in the top 6 although they might just make the 8.
Hull KR just dont have any strength in deapth.
Saints, Leeds, Wigan, Wire, Bradford, Catalans are all far better teams than Hull KR.
The last 2 top 8 places will be up for grabs and I think KR might just get one.'"
top 6 will be Leeds, Wigan, Saints, Bradford, Wire and les Catalans (though probably not in that order)
last two top 8 places are up for grabs, probably between Hull, Hull KR, and Hudds + a.n other
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| Quote ="odemwingie"Hull KR are unlikely to be in the top 6 although they might just make the 8.
Hull KR just dont have any strength in deapth.
Saints, Leeds, Wigan, Wire, Bradford, Catalans are all far better teams than Hull KR.
The last 2 top 8 places will be up for grabs and I think KR might just get one.'"
Yet we've beaten all the teams mentioned and will do again
Oh and Bradford far better your having a laugh arn't you?
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| Quote ="GJB"Shame for you his other duties as fullback aren't quite as strong, you have a super player then. He's not exactly great under the high ball, is he.'"
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| I think this season will be very close right trhough the top 6 positions and I don't think Leeds and Saints will get it all their own way although if Leeds can sign a centre they will be clear favourites for me.
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Catalans
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Quins
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Castleford
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Celtic
Tbh I think 3rd-8th could be a lottery, Wire always flatter to deceive, Wigan lack props and will miss Trent, Bulls are not the team they were, Hudds could do well if Carney settles in, Ctas will be under pressure this season which they might stuggle with, FC are an unknown quantity just now and so on.
Will be a really tight season I reckon.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"I think this season will be very close right trhough the top 6 positions and I don't think Leeds and Saints will get it all their own way although if Leeds can sign a centre they will be clear favourites for me.
Leeds
Saints
Wigan
Wire
Bulls
Hudds
Hull FC
Catalans
Hull KR
Quins
Wakefield
Castleford
Salford
Celtic
Tbh I think 3rd-8th could be a lottery, Wire always flatter to deceive, Wigan lack props and will miss Trent, Bulls are not the team they were, Hudds could do well if Carney settles in, Ctas will be under pressure this season which they might stuggle with, FC are an unknown quantity just now and so on.
Will be a really tight season I reckon.'"
So do i.
Teams have patches of form at different times.
If Rovers win 2 of the 1st 3 games then it sets them up for a strong challenge.
Derbies will probably go 1 win each this time round.
Catalans are under pressure to repeat last year and with a different coach.
Lowes i dont believe will get the best out of Wire.
McNamara will be under immense pressure if Bulls get off to a bad start.
Wiagn could be anything.
Hull need to prove it was injuries and not a lack of quality last season.
Quins, Wakey and Cas will turn teams over.
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| Quote ="moxi1"Yet we've beaten all the teams mentioned and will do again
Oh and Bradford far better your having a laugh arn't you?'"
Over the season they are much better and will get more points, head to heads dont matter in a league, its about how many points you get and these teams will all get more.
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| Quote ="cbr1100xx"Post of the season
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Hmmmm was a sensible post with my opinion but I wouldnt call it post of the season.
Thankyou anyway
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| Quote ="odemwingie"Donald is fast, thats it.
Richards can kick, is a better defender, there is no one better in the air, he is a leader.'"
seen your delusion on your own page! your a joke mate
where were his leadership skills when he left fielden to catch that kick off in the last minute of the playoffs against us. he should of owned that play, but wasnt man enough to do his job. fielden knocks on game over! the rest is history 81 mins later leeds are champs
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| Quote ="PAUL M"I think this season will be very close right trhough the top 6 positions and I don't think Leeds and Saints will get it all their own way although if Leeds can sign a centre they will be clear favourites for me.
Tbh I think 3rd-8th could be a lottery, Wire always flatter to deceive, Wigan lack props and will miss Trent, Bulls are not the team they were, Hudds could do well if Carney settles in, Ctas will be under pressure this season which they might stuggle with, FC are an unknown quantity just now and so on.
Will be a really tight season I reckon.'"
Just about spot on with everything you say there, I just cant see my team doing any worse than last season with the added depth we have brought into the squad.
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"So do i.
Teams have patches of form at different times.
If Rovers win 2 of the 1st 3 games then it sets them up for a strong challenge.
Derbies will probably go 1 win each this time round.
Catalans are under pressure to repeat last year and with a different coach.
Lowes i dont believe will get the best out of Wire.
McNamara will be under immense pressure if Bulls get off to a bad start.
Wiagn could be anything.
Hull need to prove it was injuries and not a lack of quality last season.
Quins, Wakey and Cas will turn teams over.'"
Agree with all that. Can't get my head around the open chequebook approach of Warrington towards their playing squad but going for Lowes as coach.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"I think this season will be very close right trhough the top 6 positions and I don't think Leeds and Saints will get it all their own way although if Leeds can sign a centre they will be clear favourites for me.
Leeds
Saints
Wigan
Wire
Bulls
Hudds
Hull FC
Catalans
Hull KR
Quins
Wakefield
Castleford
Salford
Celtic
Tbh I think 3rd-8th could be a lottery, Wire always flatter to deceive, Wigan lack props and will miss Trent, Bulls are not the team they were, Hudds could do well if Carney settles in, Ctas will be under pressure this season which they might stuggle with, FC are an unknown quantity just now and so on.
Will be a really tight season I reckon.'"
Outstanding, love the subtle way you placed Rovers 9th, but think only the teams third to eighth will be in a positional lottery, as you point out all six have weaknesses but you apparently think all are to strong for Rovers, did you not watch any rugby last season, with the inclusion of Salford and Celtic you think Rovers will drop 2 places let me remind you YOU FINISHED 1 PLACE OFF BOTTOM
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| Quote ="Kosh"Spoken like someone who doesn't actually watch him play.
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So you're suggesting he is great under the high ball then?
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| On paper, we've strengthened the areas where we lacked depth (mainly front row), so we should improve. However predictions mean very little - no need to lose sleep over a rival fan who doesn't rate our chances.
I think one or two people on here have mentioned that injuries also play a part, no matter how good you apparently are.
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| Quote ="GJB"So you're suggesting he is great under the high ball then?'"
He vary rarely drops the ball. It's just he's had about 4 games where he has been terrible and people judge him on those games. That and the fact he sometimes doesn pick the ball up off the ground as quick as he should.
I wouldn't say hes great under the high ball, but I would say hes alright-good
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| Quote ="moxi1"Yet we've beaten all the teams mentioned and will do again
Oh and Bradford far better your having a laugh arn't you?'"
Vella is the only player who would come close to get into a Bradford pack of:
Lynch
Newton
Burgess
Morrison
Solomona
Menzies
The others wouldn't even come close. Halley, Sheriffe or Tupou would get ahead of Colbon (despite Tupou been fairly poor at Bradford) on the wing, Nero or Sykes would partner Webster in the centres and I would have Deacon in a halfback with Dobson.
That for me, would only leave 4, possibly 5, players in a team of 13 that Rovers have better players in. So yes, I would say much better and wouldn't laugh if someone argued far better
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