Most scrum halfs in Sl dfend out wide, defensing isnt really there job.

Dobson was involved in everything, and set up most of Rovers trys that day, Cooke didnt do anything of note all game.

Lets be honest though there oppisition halfbacks that day where Washbrook and Lee.

think cookie chased down and tackled well,and got better after been on bench for last few games.every thing early on went though dobson because thats how they had been playing,but i rate cooke and did when at hull,so didnt see much of the ball while late on

It should be every players job. When I think about the best SH's I've seen, they all happen to have a good defensive game; Johns, Sterling, Gregory, Stuart, etc, etc.

i think its down to the coaches these days and the way they set up in defence,they keep it tightdown the middle, using your better defensive players to keep it tight around play the ball area,alot more thought in defence these days , and game plans

I do agree, all players should help out in defence, but the best most clubs put there SH defending in the centre position, Horne does too much defending for a halfback.

That's four players over the last 35 years so.

The game has changed a lot over that period - the 10m rule being a fundamental one - prior to that intoduction, the SH often played a sweeper role in defence.

'etc' - I put it twice for the slower members, I'll add an extra one just for you next time Dave.





I appreciate that but even in the modern era the top scrum halfs can defend well when required, although admittadly their defensive duties are reduced wherever possible.

Thanks

Except Leuluai and Deacon who can both defend more than their weight.
Danny Brough can defend, so can Horne. Some are weak, most of them are spots in game plans due to their size, but 3 or 4 in SL seem to love defending.

why has the debate turned into how well a half back can defend?

When you look at the great half backs over the years the only thing that sticks in the mind is how good in attack they are. The half backs who can run well with the ball stand out most - look at Rob Burrow and Danny McGuire at Leeds, both great runners of the ball and that's why they've held the half back spots at Leeds for so long. Millward was a great runner of the ball, as is Lockyer. Some half backs are tougher than others but they don't become greats of the game for their defence.

It's just a back handed swipe at Dobson to say his defence isn't very good, probably because you can't find any real weaknesses in his game.

A poor attempt

And kick pity about the rest of his game, I didnt say that halfbacks cant defend just that most teams put them out wide in the defensive line to protect them.

He is superman, best Scrum half in the world.

Most coaches in SL found a big weakness, his defence.

Not to mention Warrington.

Yes.

He kicked a touch line conversion in the last few seconds to win the game IIRC.......and he didn't do to badly in both kicking and playing respect in his last S.L. game of the season either

Still living in the past

After 8 pages Hullkr14 still hasn't stated how he is better than the other ten people or so in front of him.

If you'd understood any of my posts you'd know that I'm not saying he has been better, I am predicting that he is going to be. It obviously winds you up that he is already better than Deacon.

How the feck can you say that?

Ok, I predict Netto is going to be better than Tesco this year. No explaination, no facts, just what I think.

It makes for interesting threads when everyone just blindly says things about players who happen to play for their club.



What next, thread stating Watts will be the best Prop in Super League this season?

No chance, it will be Menzies. Look at all the development time and effort invested in him and the first team opportunities he enjoyed as one of your 5 homegrown players. Oh, hang on...

I have explained already why I think Dobson will be the stand out half back next year, it's a simple theory - I believe he is more talented than the other scrum halves in the league. You disagree with me, I know.

So you think he is the current best Scrum Half in Britain?
Or he only became the most talented today so it will be next year before he is the best in Britain?

You are not making any sense, that is why people are shooting you down.

Key lesson number 1 - When you post something on here think it through, make sure you do not contradict yourself and be prepared to answer critics.
You have failed miserably my son

Thanks for the advice but I think I'm going to stick to saying whatever I like and not caring about being shot down. You are clearly wound up so let me now offer you some advice - relax

Don't be absurd.

That will never catch on.