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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"Not at all, I think Tony isnt good enough and you will possibly looking for a new FB next season. My opinion, not yours.'"
So we wont be after a new FB because some people dont rate him its because you dont rate him. Right got it
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"webb is the best full back in SL!
he has proved his worth in the NRL, SL and on the international stage.
no other full back in SL has done that
greenshields, wellens, briscoe, mathers, thorman and platt are the best of the rest. theres not a lot between em, on their day they can all be quality.'"
Never said he wasnt. I highlighted the players i thought Briscoe was better than, imo. Webb wasnt one of them!
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| Sharp made his decision no doubt based on his opinion of the relative of merits Motu Tony and Briscoe as well as the constraints of the salary cap.
I am more than happy that we have signed Briscoe.
Although there are positives to have players with the utility tag attached , sometimes having a player in a dedicated postion is the answer.
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| Quote ="Roverswall"Its just such a shame that Tony is awful when confronted with a low bouncing ball eh
'" I agree with some things that have been said about tony, he is not great under the high ball or low ones lol. this doesnt make him a bad full back tho.
There was some stats shown on sky towards the end of last season with most yards/carries made by full backs returning the ball. Brisco was about 9th out of 12 and i think motu was high on the list 3rd maybe.
So they both have differen qualities and its unfair to compaire them as they are different style full backs. There is no doubt briscoe is a quality player tho and i dont think anyone is questioning that!
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| Quote ="BlackNwhite"I agree with some things that have been said about tony, he is not great under the high ball or low ones lol. this doesnt make him a bad full back tho.
There was some stats shown on sky towards the end of last season with most yards/carries made by full backs returning the ball. Brisco was about 9th out of 12 and i think motu was high on the list 3rd maybe.
So they both have differen qualities and its unfair to compaire them as they are different style full backs. There is no doubt briscoe is a quality player tho and i dont think anyone is questioning that!'" Ben Cockayne is good at returning the ball!
Does that make him a better FULLBACK than Briscoe?
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| Quote ="Roverswall"Ben Cockayne is good at returning the ball!
Does that make him a better FULLBACK than Briscoe?'"
According to your fans last year YES!!
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| Quote ="Stan Butler"According to your fans last year YES!!
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| Quote ="Roverswall"Ben Cockayne is good at returning the ball!
Does that make him a better FULLBACK than Briscoe?'" I wasnt saying tony was better than briscoe i was saying they both have different qualities. Some of your fans thought bellend was better than briscoe before you signed him
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| Quote ="rover49"Look, lets clear up something here, last season Ben WAS a far better full back than Briscoe because he played for you lot, now he is a Rover he obviously is much better, understand now, good
'" shhh ur starting to sound like us hull fans lol
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| Quote ="BlackNwhite"shhh ur starting to sound like us hull fans lol
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Must be all the buggers I see at work
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| Quote ="BlackNwhite"I wasnt saying tony was better than briscoe i was saying they both have different qualities. Some of your fans thought bellend was better than briscoe before you signed him'" But Tony skills have little bearing when thinking about his on field position(FB) as having a FB who is not great when dealing with a high ball or a bouncing ball is a strange idea that was why I brought up Charlie as he is the first to admit that he isnt the safest but is good at ball return and is useful as a pivot as has been proved in the first two games with him playing hooker as was shown with the first try against Leeds!
So i'll ask again how many FC fans think that Ben Cockayne is a better FB than Shaun Briscoe?
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| Quote ="Roverswall"Its just such a shame that Tony is awful when confronted with a low bouncing ball eh
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| Quote ="Roverswall"But Tony skills have little bearing when thinking about his on field position(FB) as having a FB who is not great when dealing with a high ball or a bouncing ball is a strange idea that was why I brought up Charlie as he is the first to admit that he isnt the safest but is good at ball return and is useful as a pivot as has been proved in the first two games with him playing hooker as was shown with the first try against Leeds!
So i'll ask again how many FC fans think that Ben Cockayne is a better FB than Shaun Briscoe?'" Once again the 2 players have different qualities, Briscoe is a 1 position player where as bellend can play more than 1 position compitantly.
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| Quote ="BlackNwhite"Once again the 2 players have different qualities, Briscoe is a 1 position player where as bellend can play more than 1 position compitantly.'" And thats the point Shauns qualities leads to little errors near our own line which IMHO make him safer in the FB slot!!
Its like asking a one armed man who is superb as a striker in the association game to play in goal
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| Quote ="Roverswall"Laugh all you like you just wont be laughing as hard as me when 'Knock on Tony' is at FB for you on the televised games
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Ahh that old myth knock on Tony
Anything you found funny with regards Motu when he was at FB against Warrington.
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| Quote ="Superbowl Scott"Ahh that old myth knock on Tony
Anything you found funny with regards Motu when he was at FB against Warrington.'" Well done he had 1 good game I think its call the exception to the rule
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| Quote ="Roverswall"Well done he had 1 good game I think its call the exception to the rule
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Like Brsicoe having 1 good game against Saints and its turned into a lets all have a tommy tank over Briscoe.
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| Conclusive proof that Tony shades it
Tony vs Briscoe 2007:
Appearances 23 vs 20
Tries 6 vs 7
Try assists 2 vs 1
Meters 1952 vs 1844
Carries 291 vs 269
Tackles 135 vs 83
Offloads 5 vs 6
Attacking Kicks 8 vs 8
Runs from dummy half 42 vs 29
Tackle Busts 37 vs 43
Marker tackles 11 vs 3
Clean Breaks 9 vs 11
Kicks in general play 21 vs 11
Missed tackles 17 vs 23
Errors 9 vs 12
Penalties 4 vs 1
Neither can compete with Ben Cockayne's tally of 43 missed tackles though
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| Quote ="Easty"Your saying he had to make a choice why did he? Do you have an abundance of fullbacks? Or did the salary cap deem he had to release one and as Tony can play Hooker also he choose Tony. I'd go with that account myself which doesn't make Tony a better fullback then briscoe.'"
I think you'll find the Hull board divided on this subject too. Just ask your mate FC Baldy!!
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Conclusive proof that Tony shades it
Tony vs Briscoe 2007:
Appearances 23 vs 20
Tries 6 vs 7
Try assists 2 vs 1
Meters 1952 vs 1844
Carries 291 vs 269
Tackles 135 vs 83
Offloads 5 vs 6
Attacking Kicks 8 vs 8
Runs from dummy half 42 vs 29
Tackle Busts 37 vs 43
Marker tackles 11 vs 3
Clean Breaks 9 vs 11
Kicks in general play 21 vs 11
Missed tackles 17 vs 23
Errors 9 vs 12
Penalties 4 vs 1
Neither can compete with Ben Cockayne's tally of 43 missed tackles though
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