As I've posted, until we officially hear that we're staying full time pro (and Sheens is definately staying), don't assume anything.

All the comments pre relegation are as null and void as the player contracts now reality hits. I think Hudge and Rob will want us to stay pro, but if the other backers and sponsorships pull out, then we're screwed.

They also need to announce it next week. Most of the best players already have clubs next season. Even the crap players are likely to have found clubs in the next couple of weeks.

The board need time, but the clock is ticking...

Think you're spot on there. Kieran Dixon will be a star in the championship and will score 30 tries in a season and would suit Full Back down there. Unfortunately he just is not good defensively enough for super league. I think if he played for Wigan/Hull/Warrington he may get away with it in SL but when playing for a lower team you get found out. Can't see any other SL team taking him off your hands really. Wouldn't surprise me if he ends up at Toronto or Bradford.

Minns could also double up as a turnstile

I believe you are mistaking Thomas Minns for somebody else, Minns is much less susceptible to the turnstile tendencies of his predecessor and I would be very sorry to see him leave

And if your IQ was one higher you could double as a pot plant.

You're thinking of Salter, if so, you're bang on correct. Thornley is a bit crap for SL as well, which is why they'll both stay and Minns will leave.

Dixon needs to stay, even if its just to get us back into SL.

Strangely enough, Kelly might be the only high paid star we keep because no one else will want him.

If I had it my way, Lunt and Blair to lead the team. Keep Greenwood, Minns, Mantelato. No point mentioning Sio, he would have gone anyway.

In reality, we'll probably have to rely on Marsh to steer us around the park and Tilse as a barnstorming line breaker. God help us.

Poor...

Factually incorrect, Dudley. As Spegs has no IQ, he must be reclassified as a weed.

Top post yours by the way.

1 Shaw
2 Oakes
3 Minns
4 Wardel
5 Mantelato
6 ANO
7 ANO
8 Tilse
9 Lunt
10 Walker
11 Blair
12 Greenwood
13 Lawler
14 Dixon
15 Donaldson
16 Marsh
17 Jubb
18 Mulhearn
19 ANO prop
20 ANO half back
21 ANO Second Rower
22 ANO Second Rower
23.ANO Centre
24 ANO Utility Forward
25 ANO Utility Back

The above are the players I would keep and spots in 25 man squad I would try to fill assuming Sio has gone Campesie retired the rest just not up to standard or either had it
We will be lucky to hold on to Lunt Blair more than any of them maybe Minns might go but with a bit of luck he will stay along with Matlelato
Kelly Thornly Allgood Clarkson Cockayne Horn Larroyer Boudebza (looks like he has gone) would let go

Look forward to your response

How many times do I have to give factual evidence that Tilse is the sort of mediocre crap that we have accepted this season that led us to relegation?

Yesterday he played well for the first 20 mins. When he came back on, he started falling off tackles and making his customary 5 metres. A bloke that big should regularly be breaking the line, not just taking the tackle.

BTW, losing Kelly, Campo and Sio should free up a lot of the Salary Cap. We just don't want to backfill with dross.

Marsh is OK but not a leader. It is imperative that we keep Lunt and Blair. I wonder if Chisholm would be interested? Just played at Bradford for a bit didn't he? Not absolutely the best, but did OK for us last year and way better than Marsh.

Chisholm is with the Bulls for next year too.

Danny Addy can fill in at half back, look how well that has worked in he Championship this year!

Chisholm has signed a 2 yr deal with Bradford and your slagging of Tilse is getting a bit embarrassing he had an excellent game on Saturday I agree he hasn't been as good as expected but he's had a better season than Green who is treated like some sort of God when in reality he can't break a tackle and can't make a tackle

I agree with you on Green. My opinion of him changed over the season. I started the season trying to defend Tilse and rationise his frailties. I'm past that now I'm afraid. Greenwood is now way better than both, and no doubt a damn sight cheaper than Tilse.

Greenwood is the one player we need to nail down on a decent contract. He's turning out to be some player.

You can have Lama Tasi for free

I agree we've got to keep Greenwood he's been a real find a lot of Tilses game was his offload which we never used so he ends up been just an average prop on very good money

Spoke to tilse and campo after the game.re tilse he implied he was gone .He has been consistent for me without catching the eye as you'd hope for an import but up against walker allgood and green I'd say he was our best prop.just scapegoated by lots of fans.many of whom I know that don't even go and base it on odd tv game. (Not suggesting Gallanteer doesn't go).The props and lunt were not the real problem and centre and wingers I liked.fullback and back row, loose man we sucked for 3 or 4 season.add in 3 weak coach's and poachings repeated defensive teachings and we are at this point.at least our current back row may punch their weight in championship.greenwood I think will be sought after by super league clubs.

I was a young season pass holder in final year at the old and much missed Craven Park, and continued to be one throughout our crap years until about 2002 when I had a young family and moved out of the area. Still went to the occasional game though, including our promotion final. I brainwashed my sons and indictrinated them into the Hull KR family and started getting season tickets again for us all when I relocated to East Leeds area. I intend to keep supporting the lads next season as I will only ever support my home town club.

As for Tilse, my opinion is that he's crap. You may disagree, but I've see a lot of crap players over the years to recognise another overpaid one.

Ha! Excellent, we've had so many rubbish players, it makes us uniquely qualified to recognise a rubbish player when we see one!

And the good ones stand out like a sore thumb that other teams see them as well, so we don't tend to keep hold of them.

I still have memories of singing Sully must stay (Anthony) and a certain Saints halfback leaving us early in his career.

Back on topic. We must keep Lunt and Blair above all else.

Everyone of clubs that move ground start remembering there old ground as this great thing I liked the old craven park from what I remember but when I see photos of it now I just think God what a dump same as the willows the boulevard etc

I agree with you about tilse rubbish is the word I would use and I do not no how long you have been going to rovers but I bet with my 55 yrs plus I have seen more crap then you

Ok, you win. I'm only 45 :lol

My eldest calls him a gentle. Unfortunately that sums up his Tilse's problems.

Sounds like he's going anyway.

Moving on.....