I only listened to the game on radio but it souded to me like when Josh Hodgeson was on the pitch we sounded more of a threat.

got rid of a ball player in cooke and already lacking ideas in attack ! shouldnt have let him go without a replacement

I for one am absolutely delighted that that idiot (Cooke!) who calls himself a professional rugby player has left the club. I've always felt embarrassed seeing someone like him wearing the red n white. Good riddance is all I can say.

Lose a game and they all come out of the woodwork. You are not going to win every game and we all know Catalans are a decent team, regardless of league position. Stop bl**dy moaning and get behind the team, the derby is just around the corner and the lads need everyone's support.

very short memories some people have, we were no better in a lot of games Cooke played in than we were tonight. Didn't hudds nil us with him playing. Oh sorry forgot justin told him not to play..

always an excuse for him, shame the same isn't said when it's anyone else.

Bottom line is he's gone, we need to have some runners and options for dobbo then we might open the odd team up, Newton aside no one else knows how to run a line that offers an option.

Where did you watch Rovers match?

Well said that man!!!!

, as his time in hull was up , but a replacement should have been brought in ! god help them if dobson gets injured!

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we are only a few games into the season.
catalans game is always difficult on there own patch ,i honestly dont think cooke would have made the difference tonight (he wasnt on form when he was in the side (1 reason or another)).

morgs is one of the best coaches around ,we need to have faith in him to get things ticking the way he wants.at the moment were just not at that level ,which at this stage of the season is fine .

were a top 8 side and the sooner ppl get used to that the better.
id be dissapointed if we finish out of the play offs yes would i be dissapointed if we dont finish top 4 ,not really this teams come along way under the guidance of the current set up and long may it continue.
IMO to be a top 4 team it takes building and im sorry but were just not at that level yet ,
IMO the first 5 years in SL have to be about getting a foot in the door next 2-3 years have to be about knocking on the door of the top 6 ,the next 2 years we need to be est in the top 4 ,after that if were not challanging for silverwear then we need a change .

dont panic, in morgan we have one of the best .
yes he can make some strange decisions ,yes hes got things wrong which in hindsight he could have gone a different route.
hes a young coach with all the ability in the world to take this club up there ,get behind the coach and get behind the players.
morgans record speaks for it self at this club ,i for one cant think of anyone else id rather have in charge .

Having watched the highlights i'd say we definitley have an attack, its not taking the half chances and chances that concerned me.

Being coached by a former pack player will always limit the amount of attacking options our team takes. We are a possession team, we like to put pressure on the opposition before taking slight chances.

What I feel Justin needs to realise is that not EVERYONE can be a utility player. Briscoe, Fox, Welham, Webster, Colbon, I'Anson, Dobson, Lovegrove, Hodgson, Clinton, Newton, Galea, Murrell, Fisher, Vella, Watts, Wheeldon. Then you got Cockayne, Cook, Ratu...etc to come in when we need a different type of game.

If we just stuck to playing players in their best positions and then worked at attacking moves and plays we might actually do something potent in attack especially in the opposition 20.

This start to the season has shown me that Dobson isn't the creative player we need he is good but we need a 6 that has experience and ability. Say what we like about Hull signing past it players but we could have used a Sean Long to direct us around.

not doing it so far for us though I'm afraid.

the big problem for the game is that there are very few quality flair players around, people may knock us for signing Long at his age, but there really aren't any other available options.

There were two decisions By Justin Morgan that may have cost us, the first was to leave out I'anson'when he was supposedly fit to play, this left us short of a creative stand off plus it also means he wont be match fit come the derby, as good as Murrell is he will never be a stand off, period!!.
The second mistake Morgan made imo, was to take Hogson off during he first half as everything good seemed to be coming through him,(dont mend what isn't broken as the saying goes)unless of course he was injured.
The worrying thing is, we dont seem to have any invention or creativity when we get into he oppositions quarter, this has been evident all season and is the reason why we have one of the worst attack stats in super league at present.
We desperately need a tallented stand of, hopefuly i'anason will fit the bill but only time will tell, i also think Dobson needs to start taking on the line more as he certainly hasn't of late and didn't sound like he did last night.

Am I missing something? I watched the highlights & they seemed to play well enough or are some people so arrogant as to expect to sweep other teams aside without effort. Rovers could have played better but give credit to the Catalans they were superb in defence & at least one score was from a lucky intercept.Those who expect every player to perform 100% every game need to realise that they have off days & sometimes do not feel on top of the world all the time just like every one of us.

I dont think anyone is been arrogant or expects teams to just lie down and be rolled over, but the stats dont lie. As the league stands, we have played 8 games, scored 133 pts and concedd 175pts, presently we are the fifth lowest scoring team in super league which means last night wasn't just a one off, we are void of ideas in atack at the moment and one just hopes that this will be rectified sooner rather than later.
The current average is not that of a top 4 apiring side, having said that, i do have confidence in the team to turn it around and come good at some stage, hopefuly starting on Good Friday.

I really dont think anyone is being arrogant they are just being realistic, Catalans did have a good defence but isn't Dobson paid 100k+ to open these defences?? If we the fans are paying his wages of around 4k a game I certainly want him at his best most of the time. Sure he has an off game now and then and we accept that, we can not be perfectionists however we were 8 minutes off being nilled for the second time this season, we in recent weeks have only just beaten below par teams such as Leeds and Saints, given up a healthy lead against a Wakey side we should have put to bed in the first half. For 1.6million pounds I really do not want to keep saying after every game "oh its just a one off bad game" it is not what these players are paid for its their jobs to create, defend and be ruthless.

Dobson seems to take the brunt of the criticism for not opening up teams, maybe rightly so in some instances but unless he has options to play to he can't work miracles by himself. After watching the game last night I was more worried about the amount of times Dobson had ball in hand and had to play the rubbish inside ball to the prop as there were no runners or dummy runners asking questions of the defence.

We need to make teams think about what we might do, I'Anson coming back may improve this as it will add an extra pivot int he team, but at the moment 5th tackle in the 20 is 90% of the time a short grubber into the in goal that if you know its coming is very easy to deal with.

All that being said, Catalans played really well, I thought the return of Bosc and Walker really boosted them and this being only their 3rd home game made this a really hard fixture.

During the week he said Chaz wasn't 100% fit and didn't want to risk him which was the correct decision

My main worry is that our star half back struggles to make clean accurate passes which makes our other players have much more work to do. He's 23 I think so plenty of time to grow but if he wants or gets given the bulk of the workload then we need to address this sooner rather than later.

Agreed about the decisions of other players, we need more runners on each play but it seems as though they've got a play and anyone not involved is setting up for the next one because we're trying to be one step ahead of ourselves when sometimes we need to just concentrate on the play we are on like the best teams do.

Our main problem is that we only have Dobson who is a creative player and if the oposition can shut him down we struggle. We need another half back. If the money quota space isn't there for a star player then we should be looking in the national leagues I.M.O.

Who in the NL's would we go for and have the time to train upto this standard though? James Webster is still one of the best half backs down in the NL's and if he wasn't good enough who really do we think could cut it??

Chaz never lets us down and we certainly look more solid with him in our attack so lets give him a few more games but we need more options near the line and people deffinately need to stop thinking about the next play and concentrate on the one they are actually on.

We need to stick with Chaz, see how he develops in a long term role with Dobbo, if it comes off we have some cash to spend in another area when one of the high paid players goes home in 2011, if not we can look at a stand off.

People say our creativity has suffered since Cooke left, but he was a spectator for most games when he was here anyway. That suggests Cooke is either an inconsistent 1-game-in-5 type player, or our tactics and gameplans didn't utilise him often enough.

If it is the latter, surely it wont matter who we sign, if our 6 is going to be restricted to nothing more than running the ball in or giving it straight to Dobson, we may as well stick with Murrell or I'Anson. No point wasting a big chunk of the cap on someone who hardly sees the ball. We already did that with Cooke.

I've not seen enough of Chas to have a totally informed opinion. I hope Morgan's faith in him comes to fruition.