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| Fingers crossed Paea, Paterson and Horne pass late fitness tests on Saturday, Rovers are going to need all of their big guns to make it 4 out of 4.
On a positive note, Dobbo and Gleeson are expected to start.
To coin a term used by one of the Saints fans (on their board) I will be surprised if they FIST Rovers.
Rovers will have a strong line-up, hopefully something like this:
Hall;
Disco, Welham, Gleeson, Salter;
Withers, Dobbo;
Paea, Hodgson, Walker;
Mika, Paterson;
Lovegrove,
Bench: Horne, Cox, Tui & Green
I don't like Withers at 6 but CS does!
Edit: corrected typo!
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| Quote ="Paul T - HKR"Fingers crossed Paea, Paterson and Horne pass late fitness tests on Saturday, Rovers are going to need all of their big guns to make it 4 out of 4.
On a positive note, Dobbo and Gleeson are expected to start.
To coin a term used by one of the Saints fans (on their board) I will be surprised if they FIST Rovers.
Rovers will have a strong line-up, hopefully something like this:
Hall;
Disco, Welham, Gleeson, Salter;
Withers, Dobbo;
Paea, Hodgson, Walker;
Mika, Paterson;
Lovegrove,
Bench: Horne, Cox, Tui & Green
I don't like Withers at 6 but CS does!'" Me neither
I would put Hall at 6 and give the young FB a go, we will create more this way. If we don't create good scoring options we will go out heavily, I expect saints to score a few, so we need to as well. It ain't gonna be a low score game.
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| Quote ="rover49"Me neither
I would put Hall at 6 and give the young FB a go, we will create more this way. If we don't create good scoring options we will go out heavily, I expect saints to score a few, so we need to as well. It ain't gonna be a low score game.'"
What ever the team is lets go out and do them it will make a change for saints to go out at the first round we did them first round in the c/cup lets do it again
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| Hall
Dave, Welham, Gleeson/Salter, Caro
Withers, Dobson
ET, Hodgson, Walker
Lovegrove, Cox
Mika
Bench anyone from … Horne/ O’Hara / Green / Paea / Griffin / Hepi
Patterson can do one.
Looked like O’Hara has clearly got over his bought of hastenburaphobia and has to play. He played a SOO game apparently …
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| Where's "Glantree" Park???
Doubt Paea or Paterson according to this interview with CS [urlhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01fh770[/url 18mins in.
Hall
Brown
Salter
Welham
Hodgson
Withers
Dobson
Tuimavave
Hodgson
Walker
Lovegrove
Cox
Mika
Carlile
Horne
Netherton
Green
With CS mentioning Horne being due to return there's no chance he'll drop Cox or Lovegrove so there's no chance Paterson will play I don't think.
As far as Paea goes it would be great if he could play but CS may think that he's got no match fitness and it's a chance to give young Green a taste of play-off football and even though he's still experience he's got a hell of a lot of go-forward in him.
Withers played very well on the right the other whilst we where on the front foot with ET and Netherton and so he's definitely the right man to play alongside Dobson this Sat not to mention his vast experience. In turn Hall will give us more threat from the back on kick-returns etc.
A tough ask to go to Saints in a play-off game with 6 players out but we've done it 3 times already this season with the last being when they were only missing Soliola and had 16 penalties so I've got a sneeky feeling we can do it again.
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| Are the St Helens fans likely to see Beaumont play?
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| Quote ="Rommel"Are the St Helens fans likely to see Beaumont play?'"
Likely to miss out with a hernia, according to the Hull Daily Mail.
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| Certain fisting for us.
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| Quote ="rover49"Me neither
I would put Hall at 6 and give the young FB a go, we will create more this way. If we don't create good scoring options we will go out heavily, I expect saints to score a few, so we need to as well. It ain't gonna be a low score game.'"
Agree
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| Quote ="rover49"Me neither
I would put Hall at 6 and give the young FB a go, we will create more this way. If we don't create good scoring options we will go out heavily, I expect saints to score a few, so we need to as well. It ain't gonna be a low score game.'"
I agree with your suggestion regarding Hall at 6 but disagree with your choice of fullback against St Helens, the young guy in question is simply not ready for regular first team action by some distance and throwing him in at the deep end in such an important game would be the wrong option in my opinion.
However, i believe he is a very good prospect and with further good coaching from Sandy, plus with a little more meat on him, he could make it in Super league in the years to come.
Until then he is still very much work in progress imo.
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| Caro to FB.
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| Quote ="Edith"Caro to FB.'"
FenerBahce (Turkey).
Ok,how much do you think they will offer for him.
Do they need a fast winger.?
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| Once again, I'm going to stick up for him.
The try he scored on Sunday took some scoring. He needs to back himself and his pace more, given the ball in the clear on Sunday in the second half he should have hugged the touch line and not come back inside, he would have been under the sticks, that's a confidence issue.
People are jumping on him and making him a scapegoat, he's got genuine raw pace.
I like Brown a lot, but his defensive positioning was all over the place at times, he exits very, very well though.
I think that if we keep Brown, Caro and Eden together and drill them as a unit could turn into a very dangerous triumverate.
All three have a hell of a way to go in defence, but, if we get them playing as commrades in arms it might really click.
Over to Sandercock.
I think the pair of them, if we keep the
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| Quote ="General Zod."A tough ask to go to Saints in a play-off game with 6 players out but we've done it 3 times already this season with the last being when they were only missing Soliola and had 16 penalties so I've got a sneeky feeling we can do it again.'"
Wigan beat us four times in the regular season during 2011. We beat them twice in the play offs (identical scores each time) and knocked them out of the comp.
League is one thing; play offs are an entirely different beast and, like Leeds, we still have players in our side who remember how to play them, even in knock out mode. So I wouldn't underestimate us.
We just need to remember to keep hold of the bloody ball ...
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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"Once again, I'm going to stick up for him.
The try he scored on Sunday took some scoring. He needs to back himself and his pace more, given the ball in the clear on Sunday in the second half he should have hugged the touch line and not come back inside, he would have been under the sticks, that's a confidence issue.
People are jumping on him and making him a scapegoat, he's got genuine raw pace.
I like Brown a lot, but his defensive positioning was all over the place at times, he exits very, very well though.
I think that if we keep Brown, Caro and Eden together and drill them as a unit could turn into a very dangerous triumverate.
All three have a hell of a way to go in defence, but, if we get them playing as commrades in arms it might really click.
Over to Sandercock.
I think the pair of them, if we keep the'"
In all fairness i think that is a good and accurate description of Caro and Brown.
In Caro i believe we have a player who is quite raw which has seen him come up with a few errors and lost quite a bit of confidence as a result.
However, he has something which you either have or don't have and cannot coach into a player and that is... RAW PACE!.
In Brown we have a player who is not quite as fast as Caro but is very strong and usually direct, however, one of his shortfalls is his positioning which you have rightly pointed out as all over the place at times.
Both these players are still relatively young(especially Caro) and if Sandy can iron out their flaws and instil confidence in Caro then who knows what may be possible with both of them in the future.
I believe all rovers fans should reserve any real judgement on either player until probably the back end of next season.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Wigan beat us four times in the regular season during 2011. We beat them twice in the play offs (identical scores each time) and knocked them out of the comp.
League is one thing; play offs are an entirely different beast and, like Leeds, we still have players in our side who remember how to play them, even in knock out mode. So I wouldn't underestimate us.
We just need to remember to keep hold of the bloody ball ...'"
I agree you do well in the play offs right up until the final when you fall apart
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| Quote seventies red; [iHowever, he has something which you either have or don't have and cannot coach into a player and that is... RAW PACE!.[/i
Problem is what he does not have and you also cannot coach - Balls....
You can be the fastest man on earth but if you have no guts, you get no glory.
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| Nobody crosses the white wash onto a Rugby League pitch without either balls or guts.
It's something you've clearly never done.
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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"Nobody crosses the white wash onto a Rugby League pitch without either balls or guts.
It's something you've clearly never done.'"
Quite clearly you are wide of the mark.
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| Then, quite clearly, it was a game you were too stupid to understand.
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| Quote ="Billy Batten"Quote seventies red; [iHowever, he has something which you either have or don't have and cannot coach into a player and that is... RAW PACE!.[/i
Problem is what he does not have and you also cannot coach - Balls....
You can be the fastest man on earth but if you have no guts, you get no glory.'" Having played RL for 20 years until I stopped playing at 29 I can state without any question that no RL player has a lack of guts or as you so politely stated 'balls' to say otherwise clearly means you do not know what the bloody hell you are talking about.
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| Quote ="Billy Batten"Quite clearly you are wide of the mark.'" You do know that playing RL quite literally means you get the snot kicked out of you on a weekly basis right? You then think that letting yourself get beaten up weekly can happen if you have no guts?
Lordy me today
As an example I was never the best fighter in the world. However my god could I take a beating and stay up if needed simply because I took one every frigging Saturday on the pitch and it makes you used to it.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"
As an example I was never the best fighter in the world. However my god could I take a beating and stay up if needed simply because I took one every frigging Saturday on the pitch and it makes you used to it.'"
It's good to know these repeated beatings had no impact on your future mental health mate
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| Quote ="SirStan"It's good to know these repeated beatings had no impact on your future mental health mate
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You can't really make that assumption. Come on he's a Mod ffs
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