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| As I mentioned in the match thread, in attack we look to have better options, but the defence is if anything worse then last season. Not sure what the problem is, poor tackling near the line, and the positional sense of the players seem to be the main problem?.
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| Defence? What's that ......
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| Defence is the worst I've seen it whose in charge of it this season the invisible man
Thought sandercock was pin pointing this as a major improvement....., were still
Waiting Craig obviously these one to one sessions he as with players aint working.
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| Makes you wonder if all those who were demanding justin go were right after all. I have to say that if sandercock communicates with the players like he does the press then there's no wonder you're a shambles
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| Your left edge was shocking, lazy behind the ruck too.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Makes you wonder if all those who were demanding justin go were right after all. I have to say that if sandercock communicates with the players like he does the press then there's no wonder you're a shambles'"
Sandercock's been fine with the press, comes accross as a quietly spoken articulate man, you might want to get over the bitterness that you arn't the top team in the City anymore before making obviously untrue comments, and if we are a shambles what does that make Hull FC after the past few seasons?.
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| I thought when we looked good we looked really good - defence and attack. Unfortunately we didn't sustain it anywhere near long enough. Our try late in the first half was against the run of play, in all honesty. Weird game all round - what happened with the break for their 1st half try, where Kearney just took it off Clinton (I think)? Had Clinton stopped?
I think we're showing some good signs, it is just very, very patchy.
On a side note, the bias in Sky's coverage was pretty bad, I thought, and reminded of the final round of last season when it was all about Cas. I expect it against Saints and Wigan, but rubbish-era Bradford and Cas - get stuffed. HKRTV was already making Sky sports look much poorer value, without the commentary team rubbing salt into my wounds with really, really undisguised glee. There's plenty of gormers who'll do that for free for me on here.
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| To be fair to Clarkey he was amused when my mate asked him at halftime if his Margin meter had rovers winning by 3 figures after 10 minutes.
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| IMO the route problem is the team's lack of patience - they feel like they need to score on every set regardless of the scoreline.
A lot of Bradford's breaks came from errors from our own possession when we were trying to be too fancy when a turn over near the opposition's line would suffice.
The team showed the can be quite devastating when they have their game in order but they need to show more patience and better game-management which is maybe an area of our game where we miss Blake Green.
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| Quote ="General Zod."IMO the route problem is the team's lack of patience - they feel like they need to score on every set regardless of the scoreline.
A lot of Bradford's breaks came from errors from our own possession when we were trying to be too fancy when a turn over near the opposition's line would suffice.
The team showed the can be quite devastating when they have their game in order but they need to show more patience and better game-management which is maybe an area of our game where we miss Blake Green.'"
Understand comment about Green however as he's not played yet do we know if he's been missed? and the sign of a good team is to make sure he isnt.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Understand comment about Green however as he's not played yet do we know if he's been missed? and the sign of a good team is to make sure he isnt.'"
Totally agree mate so I hope the players start to show teams more respect because they thought they'd blow Bradford away tonight but they made some really stupid and unnecessary plays which cost them.
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| On a positive note all our injured players are due back in round 12 great stuff
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| Don't think you played poorly at all tbh, just beaten by the better side at the end of the day. First half you absolutely took the game to bradford, they had chances, but didn't take them, your defense was spot on first half, then second half bradfords forwards took hold of the game, i think sandercocks rotation of your forwards cost you today, the second bradfords pack come on top, they only looked like one winner, they sucked your wide players in with ease, and then shipped it out wide with the cut out ball/fast hands, and had you on the overlap each time. Bradford will surprise a few this season, and i reckon they'll deffo be a top 8 team this season, huddersfield next week for you guys, that'll be a tough one.
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| Quote ="The Bomber IS Back"Don't think you played poorly at all tbh, just beaten by the better side at the end of the day. First half you absolutely took the game to bradford, they had chances, but didn't take them, your defense was spot on first half, then second half bradfords forwards took hold of the game, i think sandercocks rotation of your forwards cost you today, the second bradfords pack come on top, they only looked like one winner, they sucked your wide players in with ease, and then shipped it out wide with the cut out ball/fast hands, and had you on the overlap each time. Bradford will surprise a few this season, and i reckon they'll deffo be a top 8 team this season, huddersfield next week for you guys, that'll be a tough one.'"
Catalans away, then Hudds the week after that. Both tough.
As I said in a previous post, it was a weird game. Given that Bradford had a few out and lost Kopczak too, and that in spells we played really well, it's disappointing - certainly the most disappointing result so far. Lacked a bit of leadership and brains at times - lot of weight on Dobson's shoulders and his game reflected Rovers', in a curate's egg stylee. Lost it big style at the end, for a third time this season. Against Leeds and Wire that'll happen from time to time - without wanting to disrespect Bradford we have to look more at ourselves on this occasion.
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| Quote ="The Bomber IS Back"Don't think you played poorly at all tbh, just beaten by the better side at the end of the day. First half you absolutely took the game to bradford, they had chances, but didn't take them, your defense was spot on first half, then second half bradfords forwards took hold of the game, i think sandercocks rotation of your forwards cost you today, the second bradfords pack come on top, they only looked like one winner, they sucked your wide players in with ease, and then shipped it out wide with the cut out ball/fast hands, and had you on the overlap each time. Bradford will surprise a few this season, and i reckon they'll deffo be a top 8 team this season, huddersfield next week for you guys, that'll be a tough one.'"
We are in France next week.
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"We are in France next week.'"
The way Welham jumps out of the line in defence he may well land in Huddersfield!
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"The way Welham jumps out of the line in defence he may well land in Huddersfield!'"
Can't see welham playing next week to Be fair or webbo
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| Quote ="tiger2000"Sandercock's been fine with the press, comes accross as a quietly spoken articulate man, you might want to get over the bitterness that you arn't the top team in the City anymore before making obviously untrue comments, and if we are a shambles what does that make Hull FC after the past few seasons?.'"
You looked tired pretty early on the Bulls youngsters seemed to get stronger.
Crowd, facilities and league position to prove it aswell, thats nice, lol must be muppet night.
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| Quote ="tiger2000"Sandercock's been fine with the press, comes accross as a quietly spoken articulate man, you might want to get over the bitterness that you arn't the top team in the City anymore before making obviously untrue comments, and if we are a shambles what does that make Hull FC after the past few seasons?.'"
We are the top team in the city, always have been, always will be. you may flirt with us for the odd season or two but you always end up back where you belong.
Anyway, sandercock, seems shifty, mumbles and won't look anyone in the eye. Never trust anyone who won't look you in the eye my old nan used to say
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| Still think we should have gone with Noble or Gene.
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| I think a lot of people underestimate potter's game plans. he may not have the best quality players but when his teams actually execute his game plan they do well. He got it bang on against wakey the other week and did the same tonight. Totally nullified dobson and tired out your big men so there was nothing in the tank for the last 20 minutes
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I think a lot of people underestimate potter's game plans. he may not have the best quality players but when his teams actually execute his game plan they do well. He got it bang on against wakey the other week and did the same tonight. Totally nullified dobson and tired out your big men so there was nothing in the tank for the last 20 minutes'"
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I think a lot of people underestimate potter's game plans. he may not have the best quality players but when his teams actually execute his game plan they do well. He got it bang on against wakey the other week and did the same tonight. Totally nullified dobson and tired out your big men so there was nothing in the tank for the last 20 minutes'"
I like Potter but no.
We shot ourselves in the foot tonight, as the tide started to turn we merely needed to stem the tide, kick well (which we didn't do all night and also gave Jeffries a complete carpet ride, giving him time and space to bisect our wingers and full back) and complete our sets.
After conceding a try at 24-14, our senior players have to, have to, stand up, steady the ship and grind it out. This is not the time for Champagne football, in the end, we allowed Bradford to get a massive roll on and cut us to bits.
Whitehead was fabulous for them, we made Jeffries look a player.
Without Galea our left side is terrible. Centre is the most difficult position to defend but come on Krissy, this isn't good enough. Unfortunately, Latus is not a Super League payer.
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| Quote ="General Zod."IMO the route problem is the team's lack of patience - they feel like they need to score on every set regardless of the scoreline.
A lot of Bradford's breaks came from errors from our own possession when we were trying to be too fancy when a turn over near the opposition's line would suffice.
The team showed the can be quite devastating when they have their game in order but they need to show more patience and better game-management which is maybe an area of our game where we miss Blake Green.'"
I agree. I said at the time, we came out blazing and got too cocky. We need to learn when to calm down and just keep the pressure on. I have just watched it back on Sky, and when we were good, we looked very dangerous. At the end of the day, there is no excuse for squandering the lead we had, but we have to give some credit to Bradford, they kept coming for us, when we thought we had the game won. After watching them grow in confidence on Sky the last few weeks, I knew they would be no easy beats; and so I did not get confident with our blistering start, it was the opposite, it worried me. IMO its the last twenty minutes of games that we need to work on, we need to learn to not lose focus and tough it out. I don't agree with some who say we haven't improved under Sandercock, I think we have, after all, he isn't the one out there losing concentration and making mistakes! When we are playing with focus, you can see the differences he has made.
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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"I like Potter but no.
We shot ourselves in the foot tonight, as the tide started to turn we merely needed to stem the tide, kick well (which we didn't do all night and also gave Jeffries a complete carpet ride, giving him time and space to bisect our wingers and full back) and complete our sets.
After conceding a try at 24-14, our senior players have to, have to, stand up, steady the ship and grind it out. This is not the time for Champagne football, in the end, we allowed Bradford to get a massive roll on and cut us to bits.
Whitehead was fabulous for them, we made Jeffries look a player.
Without Galea our left side is terrible. Centre is the most difficult position to defend but come on Krissy, this isn't good enough. Unfortunately, Latus is not a Super League payer.'"
Agree with pretty much all of that.
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