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Absolutly shocking that it turns out the Drugs team lifted Gleesons ban temp so he could face us and it gave the other 7-8 FC players extra time for it to get of their systems.
A cover up in the exttreme by the drugs gang(even tho they must have known it would come out) but more importantly by the RFL.
Fc fans claims of widespread use of the banned drug in my opinion is just a smoke screen to push total blame away.
www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/articl ... andal.html
Nothing but fing cheats and the RFL also should hang their heads in shame.
Tip of the iceburg philb ? Spot on mate.
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Absolutly shocking that it turns out the Drugs team lifted Gleesons ban temp so he could face us and it gave the other 7-8 FC players extra time for it to get of their systems.
A cover up in the exttreme by the drugs gang(even tho they must have known it would come out) but more importantly by the RFL.
Fc fans claims of widespread use of the banned drug in my opinion is just a smoke screen to push total blame away.
www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/articl ... andal.html
Nothing but fing cheats and the RFL also should hang their heads in shame.
Tip of the iceburg philb ? Spot on mate.
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| Quote ="PAC"Absolutly shocking that it turns out the Drugs team lifted Gleesons ban temp so he could face us.'"
Quite amazing.
Quote ="PAC"and it gave the other 7-8 FC players extra time for it to get of their systems.'"
I don't understand this one, wouldn't the fact they played the game make then available for testing?
Quote ="PAC"A cover up in the exttreme by the drugs gang(even tho they must have known it would come out) but more importantly by the RFL.'"
Both have tarnished the name of the sport.
Quote ="PAC"Fc fans claims of widespread use of the banned drug in my opinion is just a smoke screen to push total blame away.'"
Obviously.
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| Sounds very bad when you read that, RFL, Hull, UKAD all in it together.
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| Terrible. If this is correct then heads really need to roll, top of the list should be Rimmer, can't stand that bloke.
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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"Terrible. If this is correct then heads really need to roll, top of the list should be Rimmer, can't stand that bloke.'"
The guy off red dwarf?
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| Whoo whole can of worms opened here can't see it ending here to be honest and in hind sight there was a couple of the fc players that lost weight like mega quickly,feel sorry for Gleeson, fc making everyone think it was to do with his previous problems when now it comes to light it was all fc doing.
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| Jeez. I'm genuinely stunned. As always with things like this, please be careful. The Hull FC forums and VT are maybe more appropriate places to discuss the main aspects (depending on what the mods there say), but there is a general interest and Rovers angle to it, so I'm okay with it staying as long as people are careful. Did I mention about being careful? Cheers.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Jeez. I'm genuinely stunned. As always with things like this, please be careful. The Hull FC forums and VT are maybe more appropriate places to discuss the main aspects (depending on what the mods there say), but there is a general interest and Rovers angle to it, so I'm okay with it staying as long as people are careful. Did I mention about being careful? Cheers.'"
Yeah u mentioned it a couple of times MR think everyone a bit shocked by it all feel sorry for the fans tbh
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| Forgetting the fact it is FC, this is really harmful to the whole sport. The RFL chose to allow players who had likely (admitted by the CEO of the said club) taken a banned substance to take to the field and play. Players on both sides could have been harmed by this and while an over reaction for the actual drug taken it just shows the RFL pick and choose.
I do not think Wakefield would have been offered the same leniency and at the time of the licences being chosen we may well have seen both Halifax and Widnes promoted in their place as a punishment for this. However as a desirable club with a facility worthy of Prem football I think favouritism has been shown here.
I am saying this as a fan of RL, the principals more than the actual drug being taken should have repercussions to the people involved. The players that are known to inside sport should be tested weekly reguardless of cost as this should be met by the Hull FC club. With wholesale changes at Hull FC I do not see a ban or points deduction as suitable and beneficial to the sport but a suspended punishment possibly a good idea.
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| It makes you think what would have happened if and i mean if they had beat us and we were at the bottom of the table and like in the old day we had been relegated,I bet they would have been a court case and heads would have rolled then bloody idiots
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| Is this really FCs fault (by that i mean this new part of the story as Obviously before it was)
What i mean is this - it was in Gleesons statement that a load of them were taking it and only he got caught because he was taking it on the day and not the night before or day before, this statement was given to the RFL who in turn did not pass said information over to the UKAD even though it states that yet are to be provided with all evidence and documention regarding the case.
Surely this is the RFLs fault?
The club i dont feel sorry for but i do for the players- as they were told by a professional setup that it was fine to take.
All in all its made our sport look a sham, reminds me of that bloodgate scandle in yawnion
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| As half our ex players are now in your squad, youd better be careful what you wish for
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| The players shouldnt and couldnt get done for this(apart from Gleeson who unfortunately is the 1 that got caught) the club should be fined - correct its a new set up but its still under the same name therefore its the same business and a show on force needs to be shown.
Heads should role at the RFL- some of them are past it anyway and arnt letting the sport develop like it could, too many "top" teams get treated differently.
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| They must now be fined as they made commercial benefit i.e winning games and finishing higher up the table than they should have ( as they had at least 1 player, allegedly a number more playing under performance enhancing drugs ).
The RFL's complicity in this is the most shocking element. They were clearly worried by Rules assertion that this could run thrughput the entire 1st team squad. if the RFL had acted properly as they should have and notified Uk Anti doping agency God knows how many players could have been banned and how would that have looked if they couldnt raise a side.
Think that the RFL won't punish Hull because they themselves have made this whole debacle so much worse for the sport.
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| Quote ="ML RED"They must now be fined as they made commercial benefit i.e winning games and finishing higher up the table than they should have ( as they had at least 1 player, allegedly a number more playing under performance enhancing drugs ).
The RFL's complicity in this is the most shocking element. They were clearly worried by Rules assertion that this could run thrughput the entire 1st team squad. if the RFL had acted properly as they should have and notified Uk Anti doping agency God knows how many players could have been banned and how would that have looked if they couldnt raise a side.
Think that the RFL won't punish Hull because they themselves have made this whole debacle so much worse for the sport.'"
Obviously I am looking at this from a biased viewpoint, but I am shocked by the RFL's knowledge, and actions in this situation.
When the story broke I was under the impression that Rule had altered the story to hide the full truth from the RFL and the drug testers...it now appears that he did at least tell the RFL the proper story, then the RFL got a big broom out and brushed it under the carpet and things went out of control from there.
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| Double page main article spread in The Wail On Sunday ffs.
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| Typical. Not surprised much at all.
I always suspected that Rule was liar and Kath Hetherington's comments defending him were disgraceful IMO.
As for the RFL sweeping things under the carpet, it just continues from their previous form of self-serving actions to cover their own tracks like when they punished Paul Cooke when their own operational rules clearly stated in black and white that he was "contract expired player".
Everyone involved should be banned from the game for good and Rule & Hetherington can do us all a favour and jump off the Humber Bridge.
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| Quote ="Hutchie"As half our ex players are now in your squad, youd better be careful what you wish for
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Half? Are you sure? Or is maths not your strong point?
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| Like I said on our forum I don't know if it's possible but if a fines to be handed out then it should go to the head of the company (Hetherington) and the mass of money she took from the club/game.
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| Guessing some new songs will be getting added to the repertoire by next Sunday then?
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Like I said on our forum I don't know if it's possible but if a fines to be handed out then it should go to the head of the company (Hetherington) and the mass of money she took from the club/game.'"
Totally agree with u she shud be fined
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| Quote ="General Zod."Typical. Not surprised much at all.
I always suspected that Rule was liar and Kath Hetherington's comments defending him were disgraceful IMO.
As for the RFL sweeping things under the carpet, it just continues from their previous form of self-serving actions to cover their own tracks like when they punished Paul Cooke when their own operational rules clearly stated in black and white that he was "contract expired player".
Everyone involved should be banned from the game for good and Rule & Hetherington can do us all a favour and jump off the Humber Bridge.'"
Go easy tiger.
I think Rule looks a little bit better after these revelations (if they're accurate) - his initial instinct was to come clean. He should have been supported in taking that unpalatable but correct course by the RFL. I've no clue wtf they thought they were doing. It looks like the problem was just too big for them to face up to.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Go easy tiger.
I think Rule looks a little bit better after these revelations (if they're accurate) - his initial instinct was to come clean. He should have been supported in taking that unpalatable but correct course by the RFL. I've no clue wtf they thought they were doing. It looks like the problem was just too big for them to face up to.'"
The key words here are "if they're accurate".
The RFL have already released a statement saying they did all they could to assist UKAD. Not quite sure what to make of this.
In all honesty, I'm disappointed, but not embarrassed by it. Had the people in charge still been at the club when it was announced, then I'd have been outraged, but the club has been swept clean of these incompetent morons and if anything this incident reinforces my happiness that they've gone! I was more embarrassed about the Reardon signing after the domestic violence campaign than this.
My main concern is that it is being alleged that half the team may have been taking this substance. I'm not concerned about the "cheating" element (because let's be fair, they weren't intentionally breaking the rules and the drug in the quantity taken would not have made a significant difference most likely). I'm more concerned that allegedly a fair chunk of our players have been that bloody stupid they haven't checked to see if the supplement was cleared. I know Cooper said it was OK, but it is still the responsibility of the player to check the product.
I hadn't thought about it before I read it on the Hull board earlier, but if the RFL have been involved in a cover-up, it does make you think that a few other players at other clubs may have also made this mistake and the RFL are trying to hide a scandal. There has been a silence from all other clubs on this issue (I know they don't have to say anything), usually someone has an opinion though.
If there are any other incidents that have been uncovered since the change of ownership, I wish the club would just let it all out now so we can move on.
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