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| This is probably one for Mild Rover. Where do we stand on the quota/non fed list with the confirmed signings and probable additions of Mcdonnell and Paea?
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| Quote ="R.B.A"This is probably one for Mild Rover. Where do we stand on the quota/non fed list with the confirmed signings and probable additions of Mcdonnell and Paea?'"
I reckon...
Quota - Galea, Webster, Dobson, Green, 1 slot free (not especially useful)
Non-fed - McDonnell, Taulapapa, Paea, Dobson, Green.
Which leaves no room for Clinton on the non-fed list.
O'Hara and Withers are exempt, coming from Crusaders. Lovegrove also counts on neither list (uk passport and a dispensation).
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| According to Mike Smith on Humberside last night we are still looking overseas and had received 2 CV's yesterday morning from players. (assuming the interview was actually given yesterday).
Presumably the Mcdonnell deal was done at this point so Rovers must think we have room another player?
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| Another season of being slated for packing overseas players in the squad.
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| Quote ="rover49"Another season of being slated for packing overseas players in the squad.'"
Perhaps. However, on the flip side we will have a lot more homegrown players in the squad.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"According to Mike Smith on Humberside last night we are still looking overseas and had received 2 CV's yesterday morning from players. (assuming the interview was actually given yesterday).
Presumably the Mcdonnell deal was done at this point so Rovers must think we have room another player?'"
As far as I know Paea hasn't been confirmed yet and until he is you have one Quota and one Non-Fed spot open.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"According to Mike Smith on Humberside last night we are still looking overseas and had received 2 CV's yesterday morning from players. (assuming the interview was actually given yesterday).
Presumably the Mcdonnell deal was done at this point so Rovers must think we have room another player?'"
A fed-trained overseas-based player? Burgess or Ellis? Unlikely.
Galea's Maltese passport turning up wouldn't matter because it is fed-trained places we are short of.
A surprise departure? All the non-fed 5 have recently signed deals.
Either Smith meant McDonnell or the HDM have jumped the gun, I reckon.
Unless... wasn't there a rumour that Cameron Phelps had got off the non-fed list? Maybe Dobson, who also came across [imidway[/i through 2008, has too????
In which case, even I give up.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"A fed-trained overseas-based player? Burgess or Ellis? Unlikely.
Galea's Maltese passport turning up wouldn't matter because it is fed-trained places we are short of.
A surprise departure? All the non-fed 5 have recently signed deals.
Either Smith meant McDonnell or the HDM have jumped the gun, I reckon.
Unless... wasn't there a rumour that Cameron Phelps had got off the non-fed list? Maybe Dobson, who also came across [imidway[/i through 2008, has too????
In which case, even I give up.
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I'll just wait until you've worked it out and then I'll worry about it.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"icon_smile.gif
I reckon...
Quota - Galea, Webster, Dobson, Green, 1 slot free (not especially useful)
Non-fed - McDonnell, Taulapapa, Paea, Dobson, Green.
Which leaves no room for Clinton on the non-fed list.
O'Hara and Withers are exempt, coming from Crusaders. Lovegrove also counts on neither list (uk passport and a dispensation).'"
So your quota is full and your non fed list is over subscribed until you can bin clinton?
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"So your quota is full and your non fed list is over subscribed until you can bin clinton?'"
I think Galea counts as Federation trained for the same reason that Vella and Fisher did, this is due to the fact they signed before the present rule was introduced
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| Quote ="rover49"Another season of being slated for packing overseas players in the squad.'"
At the moment if you include Paea and Clinton it stands at 11, don't you think thats a bit excessive ? I am not happy we will probably have 7, no wonder our national team is rubbish. The RFL should never have added dispensation for the Crusaders players.
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| Quote ="Aldy"I think Galea counts as Federation trained for the same reason that Vella and Fisher did, this is due to the fact they signed before the present rule was introduced'"
That's probably why he doesn't appear on MR's list of quota and non-fed players.
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| Quote ="steve_norton"At the moment if you include Paea and Clinton it stands at 11, don't you think thats a bit excessive ? I am not happy we will probably have 7, no wonder our national team is rubbish. The RFL should never have added dispensation for the Crusaders players.'"
Absolutely, I was hoping we would be reducing the overseas players, ok it might mean a lean season or two, but if our new coach is as good with youth as they say, it should pay dividends.
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| Was James McManus mentioned aswell on Humberside aswell this morning?
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| I'd be disappointed if Paea wasn't to sign now. Been really looking forward to seeing him play as he seems exactly the type of forward we need.
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| During the Mason debacle it was established that because of contru (spelling) agreement, the non-fed list had been extended back to 10 (with 5 of those being quota players).
As far as I understand our current situation is this:-
Webster (Quota)
Green (Quota)
Dobson (Quota)
Clinton (Quota)
Galea (Quota, though actively trying to get a Maltese passport)
Macdonnall (Non-fed due to UK passport)
Withers (Non-Fed due to Crusaders going to pot)
O'Hara (Non-Fed due to Crusaders going to pot)
Paea (Non-Fed due to contru agreement)
Talupapa (Non-Fed due to contru agreement)
Lovegrove (Homegrown, confirmed a few years back)
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| Quote ="General Zod."During the Mason debacle it was established that because of contru (spelling) agreement, the non-fed list had been extended back to 10 (with 5 of those being quota players).
As far as I understand our current situation is this:-
Webster (Quota)
Green (Quota)
Dobson (Quota)
Clinton (Quota)
Galea (Quota, though actively trying to get a Maltese passport)
Macdonnall (Non-fed due to UK passport)
Withers (Non-Fed due to Crusaders going to pot)
O'Hara (Non-Fed due to Crusaders going to pot)
Paea (Non-Fed due to contru agreement)
Talupapa (Non-Fed due to contru agreement)
Lovegrove (Homegrown, confirmed a few years back)'"
O'Hara and Withers dont count on either list do they?
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| Quote ="R.B.A"O'Hara and Withers dont count on either list do they?'"
Correct, I think. Room for 2 more, plus a quota player if Galea gets his passport. Would that make 14 out of 25?
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| Not enough. I want some more nations, multi cultural me.
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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"Not enough. I want some more nations, multi cultural me.'"
*Sways* We are the world, we are the children, we are the ones who make a brighter day, so let's start giving..just beautiful. Could you pick a lovely Gallic forward like Danny Divet please.
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| I am sure that Rovers have had a couple of players recommended to them from an emerging nation. Could be Norwegian? Give them a trial i say.
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| Quote ="General Zod."During the Mason debacle it was established that because of contru (spelling) agreement, the non-fed list had been extended back to 10 (with 5 of those being quota players).
As far as I understand our current situation is this:-
Webster (Quota)
Green (Quota)
Dobson (Quota)
Clinton (Quota)
Galea (Quota, though actively trying to get a Maltese passport)
Macdonnall (Non-fed due to UK passport)
Withers (Non-Fed due to Crusaders going to pot)
O'Hara (Non-Fed due to Crusaders going to pot)
Paea (Non-Fed due to contru agreement)
Talupapa (Non-Fed due to contru agreement)
Lovegrove (Homegrown, confirmed a few years back)'"
The non-fed rule and quota rule are entirely seperate. I might have the odd detail wrong, but I'm pretty sure I've got the principles right. Passports have nothing to do with the non-fed rule for example. It's the Cotonou Agreement, btw, named for a city in Benin.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"I am sure that Rovers have had a couple of players recommended to them from an emerging nation. Could be Norwegian? Give them a trial i say.'"
That bloke out of Thor, hopefully. He was Australian, but Rovers have found a loophole whereby if you've actually played a Norsk god in a film, that counts as the same as a European passport. Cunning as a fox, that Mike Smith.
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| I didn't think Misi Taulapapa counted on the non fed list due to the kolpak agreement. If that is the case we currently stand at
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(2) Joel Clinton
(3) Michael Dobson
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(1) Ben Galea
(2) Michael Dobson
(3) Jake Webster
(4) Joel Clinton
(5) Blake Green
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Correct, I think. Room for 2 more, plus a quota player if Galea gets his passport. Would that make 14 out of 25?'"
If we finish above you and stay in the play-offs longer than you next season, would that mean our official final Super League placing would be higher than yours for 5 years in a row?
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