Is Dobson the only player with any sort of rugby league intelligence?

We seem to make either idiotic or no decisions when we are under pressure. If we don't learn to adapt to playing without him it will be a long 2 months!

briscoe- ineffective
colbon- tryer, nothing else
hall- solid, will be a gem
welham- rubbish
fox-lacking confidence
green- not bad today
murrell-played out of position, hard to judge
vella- garbage
hodgeson- has a go
watts- solid today
galea- cr4p today
newton- good runs
netherton- loose man??????????? seems to get outclassed every week
cockayne- too enthusiastic(ie drops a lot of ball trying to get up too quick) (head highs)
wheeldon- best forward today strong running and a few big hits
taylor- had a real go, some nice running

Let's put it in perspective though. Dobson has been our playmaker, arguably the best in SL and most importantly ever present for two seasons. You can't lose a player like that and expect the team to instantly adapt. Also, a lot of the mistakes we're making we would still be making with Dobson on the pitch and right now it's those errors that are killing us.
It will improve but there may be more pain to come before it does.

anyone else think were struggling fitness wise?

lack of concentration can be a result of tiredness and our concentration is shocking right now, it might explain why our forwards are struggling for yards too

And theres me thinking fitness wise we've been better then ever.

Cany blame fitness when they had Huby and Widders - complete puddings

Completely agree. Its just going to take time for the side to adapt to not having Dobson out there. How long did it take Hull to properly replace Paul Cooke?

I do think Netherton is not the right man to play 13 for us though, I think we would get more value out of playing Murrel there and playing with Green at scrum half and Galea at stand off.

Plus, lets not forget its still very early into the season and we're better off having our blip now then later on in the season

to me Netherton is the weirdest of the lot, yes he tackles, but not enough, not enough to warrant him been in the team, he doesnt do anything in attack so should be putting about 50 tackles a game in, but i bet hes no where near that.

Is that not down to the conditioner, not been funny but he looks fitter than our players when out warming up on the pitch, think its just a slow start to the season but ur right maybe they need to look at theyre fitness levels, isnt this what they are doing at this sports university thing.

Huby who was probably the MOM and Widders who out ran any of your waste of spaces to gain control of the ball from the drop out.

I dont think he is fit or up to it and losing vella doesnt help either.

You say that CC but when I looked at the fixtures I had Rovers winning minimum 4 and maybe 5 out of the first 6 (all but Wire away and from my point of view I hoped FC would win the derby but in all honesty I had that as a coin flip.)

To lose 3 out of 4 must be a big concern.

I think calling our players a waste of space is a bit harsh were in a slum at the minute u started of well last season and soon dropped off, without Chase you would not be the team you are simples and widders is a good player he is still a pudding

Cheers Ranga!

I didnt say Huby played bad did i my little cas friend?
Also i have no doubt Widders out ran players - because we where more then likely running the other way trying to catch the game up. Widders is good, but he was great in the NRL, imagine what he'd be like here if he wasnt taking the biscuit... and the pies.

Widders chase for drop out showed who wanted it most, Dobson is a big miss for you

No problem at the end of the day you just cant make sum fans happy they won fair and sqaure, our time will come and we will be back to our best i have faith in Morgan and the players.

Your right Dobbo directs us around the park, think its to much pressure on Green at the Mo he is still finding his feet.

i dont think its harsh to call them a waste of space, so far this season they have been.

We seem to have no intelligence on the park though, this was the point I was making. Who goes 10 points down with 12 mins left and does a long kick off? It's common sense!

I thought Blake Green was superman? Is this not so?

Clearly you misread my sig.

You know what I meant.
HOnestly, the way he was being lauded by some, I would have thought he could have stepped up to the plate.

He may yet, I'd hate to think you were hanging him out to dry after 1 statement made about the whole team.

He can't carry a team on his own. You know 1st hand how bad a team can be without halves to move your team around the field.

Indeed I do. I have not seen either game, just going on comments (previous) how you now have 2 genuine halves. We have about half a geniune half and a couple of legs!

Still the halves wasn't the problem against Catalans and only 1/2 the problem today. We need our forwards to make some yards and the whole team to cut out silly errors.