has tipped crusaders to beat us in a fortnights time.

i think it will be a tough game but i can`t see them beating us, we just need to get a quick start against them and get some points on the board quickly then their heads will go down.

So if someone tips against hkr their a muppet?

I disagree. Crusaders will play like they did tonight. Unless we put in 110% they will destroy us! They wanted to secure 8th place tonight. Short kick offs, kicks on the 3rd, offloading all the time. It took a ridiculous call to kill off their chances, and we won't have that luck on our side against them.

Correct!

Clarke is a first class tool, we all know that.

On the whole though, let's be serious we should stick a good win on Crusaders because they wern't that convincing, however the scoreline tonight could have been so much different if it wasn't for that embarrassing Roby try.

Lose tomorrow though, and it might aswell be a dead rubber in a fortnight.

If we lose tomorrow we will definitely finish 7th. I'd chuck the game against Crusaders, just to get em into 8th after that awful call.

I disagree...there defence was decent and the are potent in offence, a very unpredictable capable team...I would say they looked the better side in the 1st half.

crusaders was already 2 scores down before that iffy call by smith,
we will have a better understanding of possibilities after tomorrows games .
if cas win tom then they go level with cru on points but then cas have to go to saints and win in their last game whilst cru would have to win and hope for results elsewhere, cru certainly couldn`t have tied 8th down today .
even had cru won today then they would of only been 4pts clear of cas with them still yet to play.
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and i still think that if we can get some quick early scores against cru in that last game then their heads will go down,
but i certainly don`t think they will detsroy us. tough game maybe, but destroy ..no

That is the thing Crusaders heads do not go down, they are dangerous right upto the 80mins...I agree there will be no destroying by either side, but it will be a very tough close game imo.They have home advantage and will be desperate for a chance to get in the play-offs they will throw everything at the game, biggest game ever for them to date!

If we do get quick tries I do think we will win, I just think they will come out all guns blazing. To write Crusaders off is complete lunacy, especially when they have everything to play for.

Both Crusaders and Saints were unconvincing, Crus made some really dumb plays at times, they were good for the first 35minutes aye but failed to capitalise on St's 'flatness' shall we say.

If we want to anything in the play-offs, a victory against Crusaders should be a formality.

If we lose tomorrow and Hudds win, we'll have effectively finished 7th with a game to go as Hudds' pts diff is so much better and nobody can catch us from behind. If they're scrapping for 8th and we know we're 7th no matter what... well they'll have more motivation.

I don't disagree....

They totally threw Saints play for the first 40 mins, yes they should have capitalised more however Saints defence is a very hard nut to crack.... your defence will need to be spot on.

Rovers will obviously be favourites, but I think it will depend on the other results and the timings of the games. Cas will in all likelihood beat Quins tomorrow, so will go above Crusaders. If Cas then beat Saints on the Friday night (unlikely but Saints are struggling for numbers now and Cas very much have something to play for), then the Rovers game on the Saturday is meaningless for Crusaders and therefore increases Rovers chance of a win. If Saints beat Cas then it's all to play for again and you'd imagine Crusaders will be up for it. Fascinating all the twists and turns still to come with one round left.

i wouldn`t write any team off, but i do believe will be too strong for them.
we will just have to wait and see in a fortnights time

Yet if he says anything positive about Rovers he is a RL expert, presumably.

had i put "they won`t beat us"
then that is writing a team off,

i just put "i can`t see them beating us"
that is just my opinion based on the way we both are playing atm and also based on the way i expect and hope we will play

If Rovers lose to Wigan I am sure they will then field a fairly weak team against Crusaders and get beaten.

Even if Rovers get something off Wigan, we'll still field a weak team at Crusaders if Hull beat Leeds because that too would mean we have nothing to play for.

But if results went our way then beating Crusaders will be crucial and we'll go there motivated and with a fair chance.

He'll never be an RL Expert then will he

dont you think its slightly unfair on the last set of games been played at different times? Should maybe be like football where everyone plays at the same time so nobody has an advantage

Completely agree. So many placings likely to be up for grabs and it's unfair for some to know what's required IMO.

some years ago when rovers won the old 1st div and it was close between them and another team cant remember who they made them kick of the same time so we would not know what the other teem had done :

He can tell you all about Wigan.