Story in today's press about the soldier who is being put on trial for a so called "war crime". He punched a Taliban suspect who is accused of blowing up and killing his best friend after laying a previous bomb. The soldier lost it for a few seconds after the fanatic laughed in his face after being arrested whilst laying another.

O.K. he was wrong but being charged with a "war crime" which, if found guilty will mean prison and the loss of his career for losing it with a piece of for a few seconds is nothing more than a massive over reaction.

If it wasn't for the P.C. brigrade the problem would never have surfaced if the neccesary course of action had been taken whilst he was planting the device.

PC brigade have an impact on all walks of life in the modern world and sadly in a lot of instances lead to things like this. This is why ive said before things like the Human Rights Act does vey little good and lots bad.

The taliban suspect will get released,wrongful arrest, get £1 million of deserved compensation and the soldier will return to england disgraced and on the scrap heap.....don't you know this is what our soldiers are dieing for, these people have human rights!.....



Believe me, the PC brigade wont let this go without their pound of flesh...an example will be made of this soldier to pacify the local leaders.

Should of shot the scum, then asked questions.

it's nothing to do with the Human Rights Act !!! It's like blaming the Dangerous Dogs Act when you get a parking ticket !! entirely different things



The soldier could face a court martial under [iinternational war crimes legislation[/i for "inhumane treatment" of a prisoner. He could also be charged under [iBritish military law,[/i

I didnt say it was. I said the PC brigade were causing the issues as they do in instances where the human rights act intervenes. (such as prisoners having the right to have TV's in their cells etc)

All driven from the same source for me, do-gooders.

Why bother with questions ?

Are you really East Ham?

Care to point to any piece of legislation that mandates prisoners have a TV in their cells?

Quote ="cod'ead"Are you really East Ham? Care to point to any piece of legislation that mandates prisoners have a TV in their cells?'" Dont know what East Ham means mate? My wife has been on courses with senior officials from prisons in the UK who have said it is mandated that prisoners have the rights to TV's etc. I didnt realise til i read this article that they pay for the TV's. £1 per week is stupid, especially in view of the comparison made in this article. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ients.html

Quote ="cod'ead"Are you really East Ham? Care to point to any piece of legislation that mandates prisoners have a TV in their cells?'" Dont know what East Ham means mate? My wife has been on courses with senior officials from prisons in the UK who have said it is mandated that prisoners have the rights to TV's etc. I didnt realise til i read this article that they pay for the TV's. £1 per week is stupid, especially in view of the comparison made in this article. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ients.html

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/1667945.stm This one here talks about spending cash to give all prisoners TV's because it helps them apparently.

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/1667945.stm This one here talks about spending cash to give all prisoners TV's because it helps them apparently.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... isons.html And this is the view of the guy that represents prison officers.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... isons.html And this is the view of the guy that represents prison officers.

Quote ="Big Dave T"Dont know what East Ham means mate? My wife has been on courses with senior officials from prisons in the UK who have said it is mandated that prisoners have the rights to TV's etc. I didnt realise til i read this article that they pay for the TV's. £1 per week is stupid, especially in view of the comparison made in this article. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ients.html'" The Daily Mail I hope our respect of the Geneva Conventions set us aside from the likes of the Taliban.

Quote ="Big Dave T"Dont know what East Ham means mate? My wife has been on courses with senior officials from prisons in the UK who have said it is mandated that prisoners have the rights to TV's etc. I didnt realise til i read this article that they pay for the TV's. £1 per week is stupid, especially in view of the comparison made in this article. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ients.html'" The Daily Mail I hope our respect of the Geneva Conventions set us aside from the likes of the Taliban.

Ah ok.



I believe the Human Rights Act is a good think in large and provides good guidelines to follow in general. I do feel its abused to give rights to people that shouldnt have them, such as the prisoners mentioned above. I believe if you are found guilty of any crime you waive your human rights and should be punished.

Ive not seen an update but since the Human Rights Act ive read that prisoners are thinking about taking legal action to be able to vote as this isnt a right that prisoners have. Has this been changed yet?

www.satellites.co.uk/satellite/t ... tions.html Playstations too. Im on a roll now.

www.satellites.co.uk/satellite/t ... tions.html Playstations too. Im on a roll now.

Although his actions are understandable from our point of view, Operational Law (comprising Law of the Land, International Law, Military Law and Geneva Convention) states we must not ill-treat prisoners or those in custody in any way for any reason. We must master the art of switching between war fighting and peacekeeping and winning hearts and minds at the flick of a switch. Regardless, an incident as small as this one will disappear with a back-hander!

IMO the Geneva Convention should only be adhered to when the enemy abides by it aswell. We all know how any captured prisoners would be treated by the Taliban.

Queeensbury rules sir..'tis the gentleman's way..don'cha know !!

BUT seriously..why should we stoop as low as the enemy, an enemy who we are fighting BECAUSE they stoop so low !!

[size=75(PS I would prefer this thread on the sin bin rather than on a club board)[/size

The pc brigade are a cancer in our society and i despise them with a vengeance the sooner we get a goverment in power who tells them to go to hell the better our society will be in my opinion.

should of strung the f@@@er up!!!

Nah, still no excuse. For the folliwng reasons:

1. We expect to be given the best chance possible if we become prisoners 'at' war, not used to have revenge taken out on us.

2. Dishing out indescriminate beatings is not going to win over the population which, of course, is one of our aims.

Do you oppose the Geneva Convensions then? Like the crimes commited in Rwanada and the former Yugoslavia?

I've highlighted the key word.

The only way for someone to 'waive' their [ihuman[/i rights is for them to cease to be human - at least in the eyes of those who would remove those rights. That's a very dangerous path to take, and it usually ends up with abuse on a grand scale.

London tube map, District Line.

East Ham - one stop short of Barking

whats one stop past barking, think im nearer to there

Exactly!