apologies to everyone for jumping the gun

Feel free to pull out of the deal, then hand the cash back to the rfl

Seriously you expect no rovers academy employees to be given a role? Talk about blinkered

Quote ="robin1972"How many appointments will be hull kr i wonder....... Nil i.m.o #shafted# www.hulldailymail.co.uk/City-Hul ... story.html'" Some people just love to set themselves up for a fall.

Quote ="robin1972"How many appointments will be hull kr i wonder....... Nil i.m.o #shafted# www.hulldailymail.co.uk/City-Hul ... story.html'" Some people just love to set themselves up for a fall.

Quote ="robin1972"How many appointments will be hull kr i wonder....... Nil i.m.o #shafted# www.hulldailymail.co.uk/City-Hul ... story.html'" Apart from Rob Nickolay and Jason Netherton you mean? Wait to find out the facts before you start silly threads.

Quote ="robin1972"How many appointments will be hull kr i wonder....... Nil i.m.o #shafted# www.hulldailymail.co.uk/City-Hul ... story.html'" Apart from Rob Nickolay and Jason Netherton you mean? Wait to find out the facts before you start silly threads.

So what you are trying to say i think is we have to bow to the bigger club IE hull fc

you never know it might work out well for both clubs

I hope it does then both hull and rovers will be trend setters

I agree nothing ventured nothing gained, I wonder if they have thought well outside the box & share the facilitys of Hull city as well (medical, physio ect) it would bring savings & cost beafits to all three clubs.

Why on earth would Hull City want to share their medical team with the City of Hull Academy? They have a team of full time medical professionals.

The new academy is based at Bishop Burton College, the home of Hull FC's current youth set up and Hull City's Scholorship set up. Why would you want them to leave what is a fantastic venue to go and train at City's first team training set up in Cottingham?

You're making it sound like West Hull ARLFC moving in with Hall Road Rangers.

There is a lot of things that all three clubs are using, sports medicine equipment & practitioners, the cost could well be spread across all teams, first to the academy's. The same goes with purchasing kit & equipment the savings benefit everyone the football offsets some cost & the rugby gets better value for money by sharing, its not rocket science?

Any idea how ring-fencing will work with the club-trained rule?

Would a player let go by one club qualify as club-trained if the other wanted to give them a shot? Or maybe later in their career, returning to the area from another club altogether? Not that any system seems to last that long in RL!

I'm bored of this merged academy debate

Don't post then?

I'm not a fan of it, I still fail to see how it benefits FC other than financially? It's a no brainer for KR. And I'm not trolling, I really think that is the case - both clubs pay less so gain financially but there is no doubt which team benefits in term of the output (players).

And I don't see it lasting long. (hopefully)

Isn't a financial benefit well worth having? Especially if the money can be spent better elsewhere e.g. On having an additional development level.

Apart from maybe Saints, Leeds and Wigan, how many clubs have under-19 teams that offer value for money?

Paying transfer fees, scouting the lower leagues and the amateur game - that'd offer more bang for your buck than the current system. At the moment it's basically train some teens to the point where a few are ready for championship 1. I know Hull fans are (rightly) proud of their under-19s efforts, but if you look at pound spent per regular first teamer produced, as Pearson, surely will, you can understand why he might think there's gotta be a better way.

Time will tell I guess, no doubt cutting the cloth was needed I get that, and hopefully it will be the right decision, I don't want it to fail just to be proved right, I'm not that shallow. I'm not sure the saved money will be re-invested though, I think its a saving money exercise - both directors have openly admitted they cant keep throwing money at the clubs.

I just can't help but feel that our academy was really starting to bear fruits, the evidence is there for all to see. Kind of seems a shame to have put al that investment in place and then buckle just as it was starting to come good?

If it can start producing talent on a regular basis, and the evidence would say FC are right on the cusp of that, then paying big transfers would be a thing of the past anyway, as the talent pool would be in place.
Ultimately I cant see how merging with KR will produce more talent for FC than it is now?

I didn't say I was bored of posting in a nutshell it seems all the hull fans are against it and all the rovers fans don't seem that bothered although the hull fans seem to think there churning out players like Wigan do and we don't have any players come through our academy which isn't true on both points

We'll never know whether it really was on the cusp of delivering first-team players in good numbers and consistently, year after year. And I understand why that is frustrating for Hull fans, who have bought into this as the way forward. From outside, it seems that you have a good group of young players and I'd expect one, two... maybe even three or four to make a mark in SL. But a lot of expectation has been placed on them and the system that produced them, and my assumption is that it's been overhyped a bit.
It could just be that the money has run out, but running an under-23 team won't be cheap, so I think it's probably just been recognised as a fairly inefficient system.

Struggling to think, and looking to provoke hilarious posts.

Shaul;Skirlaugh.
Briscoe;Fev.
Lineham; Now officially rubbish.
Erm.
Houghton; Quality player, everyone at Hull thinks he's rubbish.
Green;Can't get a game, once scored a try.
Yeaman; Excellent ball boy. As long as he was on the touch line, no passes required.
Erm...
Loads of others.
Brink of world domination.
1991.
Premiership.
Dane O'Hara.
Arthur Bunting, good coat.
Sterlo.
Back To The Future.

The big one for me is the Jordan Abdul comments I keep hearing. Hull FC fans are using it as a reason why they shouldn't me merging with Rovers. Do any of them actually know where he played prior to joining the great Hull FC academy?

What has Abdul said? (apart from "what time are we doing Maccy D's?"icon_wink.gif

Your showing a lack of knowledge now Stan everyone knows Jordan's a KFC man

Tee-hee.
I think sometimes we put a useful brake on each other's more extreme, and sometimes ultimately damaging, optimism. Rovers and Hull fans I mean, not me and you.
But we're reluctant to do that where the dreams and aspirations of young players are involved. Seems mean, innit?

So the best casing isn't challenged and snowballs.

Turgut, Abdul, Lancaster, Logan and HTW, may well be the next Graeme Horne, danny. Washbrook, Craig Hall, Ben Crooks and Tommy Lee. All good players. They may even be better than that - but the cusp of greatness thing... not impossible, but hardly the inevitable outcome it's sometimes presented as.

In that case why dont Morrisons and Tesco share staff?

Stop talking out of your backside. Hull City have a team of people that are busy enough to justify a full time salary, what makes you think they would have time to work for Hull or even want to?

And you want Hull FC to play in Hull City's Umbro kit to save costs do you? Or pehaps train with their footballs and just use the Rugby balls for match days to comply with rules?

I would love to hear more about this 'Sports medicine equipment' you think could be shared. Maybe Rovers have a bit of strapping they dont need now their season is over so the Tigers can get some use out of it

Flip flops and showers, they could all share those, and soap, maybe shower caps.

Panini stickers, got be easier to get good swops between three squads.

No doubt I'll come up with some more good ideas.

I can't believe you haven't been consulted by the clubs on the merger Sandra