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| Caro for me too Gardner jumped out the line more times than welham
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| Not sure if Gardner is match fit,but if he is Bowen totally outpaced him for his try last week.Caro would have caught him,but would he have made the tackle? Got to say he has improved on what iv'e seen of him so far this season.
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| Got to say that caro has,nt done a lot wrong this season, yes he is still raw around the edges but he has got genuine pace. Dont think Gardner was match fit, did get caught out and could,nt get back. At least when Omari does drop a bollock, he is on his wing...
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| In an unusual move, I'd start with Gardener, and have Caro on the bench as a replacement winger instead of Keal as replacement Hooker. There's no reason Josh can't do a full 80 (even though I do rate Keal). We seem to pick up a lot of injuries out wide at the minute.
I'd drop Welham till he learns not to keep jumping out of the line and put Salter and Horne in the centres, but I bet he'll drop Salter.
I'd drop Eden as well but not got a named replacement in the squad for Sunday. Against Wigan he still looked too excited and panicy, even in the first half. Eden's great, but STILL needs to learn to hold the ball in certain situations instead of attempting to offload in every single tackle (and therefore knock on).
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| could go with
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| Play both. Caro has been the best of a bad bunch of the wingers, but there's no point bringing in loan players and not playing them.
Cockayne either to full back or bench. Both Eden n Welham need dropping but our squad doesnt have the players to pressure these positions when Hall is injured.
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| cockayne
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| Quote ="SirStan"Play both. Caro has been the best of a bad bunch of the wingers, but there's no point bringing in loan players and not playing .'"
I very beg your pardon?
I think you'll find that contrary to everyone else's opinion, other than my own, The Hammersmith Express has been our stand out attacking player, only injury has prevented him from cementing his place in the side.
We found out in 2007\8 that Cockayne is not a full back at this level. Stick with Eden, for all his foiables.
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| Feck me, there are some belting pitches being made for the possible coaching vacancy on here.
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| Many apologies to all members of the HE Fan Club, but I stand by my "best of a bad bunch" assessment.
You are right about Cockayne being gash at fb. We ended up replacing him with Ian Hardman at the end of 2007 and then Brisc came. He's looked distinctly average on his return.
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| He gives 100 % though Stan so that makes up for him been crap give me a really good player who gives 75% anyday
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| Michael Fatty Whathisface That never played for Saints.
Smith, that's him. Roofs loved him.
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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"Michael Fatty Whathisface That never played for Saints.
Smith, that's him. Roofs loved him.
Very annoying larker.'"
He was the last player in a rovers shirt who could offload the ball in the tackle
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"He was the last player in a rovers shirt who could offload the ball in the tackle'"
I seem to remember lots of posters on here moaning about Morgan coaching this particular skill out of Liam Watts, strange that some are now suggesting his return.
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| Michael Smith was outstanding in our promotion season! Could've been one of the best if he had an ounce of heart and spirit!
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| Quote ="Alex Mc"Michael Smith was outstanding in our promotion season! Could've been one of the best if he had an ounce of heart and spirit!'"
a bit harsh, he played for us on 2 shot knees, takes a bit of heart and spirit to do that imho
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| Quote ="Alex Mc"Michael Smith was outstanding in our promotion season! Could've been one of the best if he had an ounce of heart and spirit!'"
I have to say I wouldn't mind someone of Michael Smith's ability in our team right now.
With all the other workaday forwards we have we could easily afford having one player with genuine quality even if he wouldn't run himself into the ground. Smith's ability to offload even when being gang tackled was exceptional. An arm would come out of the melee and anyone supporting would race away.
On the subject of Gardner I am sure Saints will have wanted assurance he would get game time before agreeing to his loan. That will be why he is being selected ahead of the returning Caro.
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| IMO it would seem strange to have two players of similar ability (why else would we be having this debate) and choosing to play another team's player ahead of our own.
Welham has looked much better against Saints and Wigan I think and I don't think dropping Eden and replacing him with Cockayne would do us any good.
Centres and wingers need time to build partnerships in order to be most effective, chopping and changing positions is not the way to do this.
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| Another good showing from the Hammersmith Express yesterday. If this continues, I may have to revise my thinking on the subject. Is that allowed on this forum, or are opinions cast in concrete?
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| Watching Gardner, mainly in warm up and he didn’t seem very integrated with the team, seemed very isolated and not taking part in any of the ‘groupy’ stuff. Maybe nothing in it but was certainly noticable.
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| he's our top try scorer and he's missed a couple of games!!
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| THE has been marvellous since he was unfortunate to have dinner with me.
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| Quote ="barham red"Watching Gardner, mainly in warm up and he didn’t seem very integrated with the team, seemed very isolated and not taking part in any of the ‘groupy’ stuff. Maybe nothing in it but was certainly noticable.'"
He's done it for years at saints, I wouldn't read anything into it. Works on catching and stretching rather than the rest of the squad
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