It looks like we’ve finished recruitment unless we can bring in another half. What’s people’s opinions for the team?

1. Quinlan
2. Ryan
3. Crooks
4. Minikin
5. Kenny-Dowall
6. Abdull
7. Keyes
8. Mulhern
9. Litten
10. Murray
11. Livett
12. Linnett
13. Lawler

14. Garbutt
15. Masoe
16. Hauraki
17. Hadley

Trout, parcell, gee, Maher, Rawsthorne, Minchella and Lewis in reserve.

Elliot Minchella is probably better suited at LF than Lawler.

Linnett will play centre, and quite simply because he’s outstanding there.

Rawsthorne in front of Ryan for me. Far stronger ball carrier and defender.

Rawsthorne will be in the team.
He will also be your first choice goal kicker

A place in the squad has to be found for matty storton,quality,linnett in the centres,crooks on the wing.

That squad looks absolutely dreadful.

Similar to yours if Hastings is a no show

Lol. Surely you’re no way near spending the cap?

We’re not. Chairman has acknowledged it. Weren’t able to. Good players are reluctant to join the clubs that are most in need of them. For reasons that defy my understanding ‘we’ decided to try to build patiently from the bottom up a few years ago and it set us back massively. Now we have no choice but to keep trying the same thing, over again in the hope that one batch of gambles will pay off sufficiently well to break the cycle.

If it does, I’ll likely get to listen to the pundits saying how it was the right thing to do all along. It is difficult to convey how that will make me feel.

I have one hope before I die and I am now 73 that we will get into a grand final even if we do not win it it will still please me maybe with Tony Smith in charge we might get there or there about some look at what Salford did if they can anybody can

I hope you get your wish.

[uThe club[/u has come on massively in the 21st century, after the profound and nearly terminal difficulties of the 1990s. The last few SL seasons, [uthe team[/u has been... ‘substandard’ might be a bit harsh or unfair for some years, but only a little bit.

Obviously, Salford’s run to the GF is framed as a feelgood story of a plucky underdog now, but as a Rovers fan it is striking that they did it following a path that we, and clubs like us, were told was wrong by Phil Clarke, Jamie Peacock and other experts who spent their playing careers with successful clubs with lots of resources - and good cultures too, i’m sure... but the money was key. As it was for Rovers in the 80s when we were breaking the transfer record and suchlike.

Salford are unlikely to sustain their 2019 level of performance, but I think it has probably helped shift perceptions in a positive way for them, and they had some fun. I never managed to get my head around Rob Crossland expressing regret that Rovers had finished 4th in 2009, as it raised expectations too far. The thing is, it also provided memories that made the pratfalls that followed easier to bear.

I’d love to see Rovers in the GF or just reaching the play-offs. That’s probably some way off, but as a first step, i’d like to see us actively and immediately, trying to make the best of our circumstances at the first team level. The squad now is the way it is because of those circumstances rather choice, which is some consolation - we haven’t just been stupid at least.

I don’t agree with ‘dreadful’, although missing Parcell for the opening round does leaves us looking a bit weak across the pivots. We’re favourites for relegation for a reason, and i’d be astonished if we finished better than 7th, but I don’t think there’s a chasm to the rest of the league. There’s not much room for error or bad luck, mind you.

Exactly as i see it. Even under Sheens and a terrible injury list we fell just short in umpteen games last few year.Ok a league table won't lie over a season but hearing how we barely trained and player power ruled we still could have took more league points Smiths tougher regime combined with squad depth could/should see us holding our own. No real expectations but just a general feeling we are finally on right track.

I hope so and, as always, there are plenty of things that we can interpret positively at this stage of pre-season.

The attitude and mindset that I hope Smith can engender could be key.

Match day results set the tone and shape perceptions, but I think we lost other important stuff this decade too. Bringing in somebody as downbeat as Sandercock when shifting the focus from the team to the club, the Chairman losing any enjoyment he’d derived from the role (losing hundreds of thousands a year will do that, I suppose)... everything felt a bit low energy... until Peacock and everything imploding. I wonder if i’ll ever get over that. Desperation at least woke us from torpidity for a year or two under Sheens, but it re-emerging in 2019 was dispiriting.

So, do you think you'll beat us

No better time for you to be playing wakey- they looked massively undercooked For the season on Wednesday night and then lost their first choice FB.
They were Soft and slow down the middle and lacked any creative spark.. I reckon hit them fast and hard early with plenty of offloads, in defence close them down quick so they can’t get the ball out wide and you will see a win.

And 10 players out

I'll happily finish 11th, as long as Hudds finish last. Deliriously happy.

So would the KR fans - some common ground for us all on Friday

It’s true (not the Hudds-specific bit), but it feels a bit deflating. We had at least hoped to get the starting line feeling like 7th or 8th and breaking the cycle of struggle-struggle to recruit-struggle [imight[/i be realistic.

Oh no, it's Hudds specific for me - I dream of the day their tin-pot club and tin-pot fans are gone from SL forever. Detestable, parasitic, non-entity of a club.

I take it you do not like HUDDs LOL

As a Rovers fan, I have felt that deflated over the past couple of seasons that I wish someone would just put us out of our misery. The only way out of this cycle is to overspend rather than hoping we have a good season and signing projects. Its all well and good the Chairman saying we will be utilising the Marquee player rule next year, but its this year we need to use it. Next year may be too late.

I'll be there on Friday cheering the team on but I fear that we will lose and it will set the tone for the rest of the season.

I'll be there on Friday cheering the team on but I fear that we will lose and it will set the tone for the rest of the season.'"

Quote ="Old Timer No 4" Sadly,I agree.Really hope I am wrong, but this feeling is probably because since we went back to SL in 2006/07,apart from a small window of excitement and hope under Justin Morgan when we finished 4th it,s been a constant struggle. The support is loyal and better than many who would turn their backs if they had to endure what we have, but we really should be a better performing team than we have been. It needs to happen asap.Please, not another season of struggle. Good luck the boys, it,s time we had some...good not bad.'" It’s good to some positivity from Tony Smith here: https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... im-3787262 There are some familiar themes from previous seasons - building for the future, playing a more expansive game and not getting drawn into the arm wrestle, giving their best even though that won’t necessarily mean winning - and we all know it didn’t always work out too well previously. I want to be optimistic, and maybe this time will be different, but equally we have to be realistic. It is a new team (and after some of the performances last year it probably needed to be) and it’ll take a while to gel, when i don’t think we can afford a slow start. See where we are 6 in or 8 weeks, I guess.

Quote ="Old Timer No 4" Sadly,I agree.Really hope I am wrong, but this feeling is probably because since we went back to SL in 2006/07,apart from a small window of excitement and hope under Justin Morgan when we finished 4th it,s been a constant struggle. The support is loyal and better than many who would turn their backs if they had to endure what we have, but we really should be a better performing team than we have been. It needs to happen asap.Please, not another season of struggle. Good luck the boys, it,s time we had some...good not bad.'" It’s good to some positivity from Tony Smith here: https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... im-3787262 There are some familiar themes from previous seasons - building for the future, playing a more expansive game and not getting drawn into the arm wrestle, giving their best even though that won’t necessarily mean winning - and we all know it didn’t always work out too well previously. I want to be optimistic, and maybe this time will be different, but equally we have to be realistic. It is a new team (and after some of the performances last year it probably needed to be) and it’ll take a while to gel, when i don’t think we can afford a slow start. See where we are 6 in or 8 weeks, I guess.