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| Sad to hear of the death of my all time hero muhammad ali who in my humble opinion lived up to his billing of the greatest.As he said"I shook up the world" and he really did,not just a sporting hero a hero to millions all around the world for his contribution to life.
A sad day to all who loved and admired him,an inspiration to all. R.I.P champ.
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| Well said yes. Rip champ
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| Bottled it when it came to serving his country
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| Quote ="Keith_Lard"Bottled it when it came to serving his country'"
Absolute horse. He made a principled stance which many supported against another stupid war the US got involved in.
Too many legends gone this year already, it's really sad when bell ends like you attempt to draw attention to yourself by spouting dung.
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| His actions towards Joe Frazier were despicable. Takes away any "legend" status.
I admire his stance on the war though.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"His actions towards Joe Frazier were despicable. Takes away any "legend" status.
I admire his stance on the war though.'"
Absolutely agree about the Frazier thing a disgusting episode as a massive boxing fan I never liked Ali he didn't beat Liston the Mafia did but he was a good boxer but not the greatest
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| He pretty certainly beat Liston the first time and it was Liston who had got himself embroiled with the mob.
He apoligised to Smokin' Joe and Frazier accepted his apology.
A great and humble man, the likes of which we'll never see again.
I won't argue about others opinions of him, I respect everyone's views that disagree.
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| Quote ="Sandro II Terrorista"He pretty certainly beat Liston the first time and it was Liston who had got himself embroiled with the mob.
He apoligised to Smokin' Joe and Frazier accepted his apology.
A great and humble man, the likes of which we'll never see again.
I won't argue about others opinions of him, I respect everyone's views that disagree.'"
The Liston fight was a shame because it should have been one of the greats but because of the mob it didn't go that way he was a great character and self publicist I just don't think he was the greatest boxer only my opinion of course
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| He was an icon of sport, & fought against racism we have to admire that, some fights was corrupt/political as they are to this day, other sports are corrupt RIP champ.
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| Quote ="Sandro II Terrorista"He pretty certainly beat Liston the first time and it was Liston who had got himself embroiled with the mob.
He apoligised to Smokin' Joe and Frazier accepted his apology.
A great and humble man, the likes of which we'll never see again.
I won't argue about others opinions of him, I respect everyone's views that disagree.'"
What year was this? After Joe Fraziers kids got bullied at school and his family received deaths threats?
Or are you counting the newspaper apology?
Frazier gave Ali money and supported him when he was banned. Ali "repaid" him like this? Bs.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"He was an icon of sport, & fought against racism we have to admire that, some fights was corrupt/political as they are to this day, other sports are corrupt RIP champ.'"
Personnel racism, he was racist himself.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"What year was this? After Joe Fraziers kids got bullied at school and his family received deaths threats?
Or are you counting the newspaper apology?
Frazier gave Ali money and supported him when he was banned. Ali "repaid" him like this? Bs.'"
Chief, i'm not going to argue with you, I don't think it's the right time.
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"The Liston fight was a shame because it should have been one of the greats but because of the mob it didn't go that way he was a great character and self publicist I just don't think he was the greatest boxer only my opinion of course'"
I agree with you, although in boxing i think it's impossible to compare and contrast different eras and weights.
If i had to, from the many, many days i've spent watching old footage, i'd go Ray Robinson, utterly beautiful to watch.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Personnel racism, he was racist himself.'"
I never said personal pal.
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| Quote ="Sandro II Terrorista"Chief, i'm not going to argue with you, I don't think it's the right time.'"
I don't think his family are reading this.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"I never said personal pal.'"
I know, I did. He fought against racism for people of his colour. But was racist against "darker" black people.
It's strange how racist, anti Islam foke are happy to forget they stance if people can kick a ball, punch someone or sing.
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| A contradiction, an inspiration, a man of courage and conviction, a man with human frailties and foibles, a man of huge charisma and above all.....
The Greatest....
RIP
"Rumble, young man...rumble!"
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| Quote ="Sheldon"I know, I did. He fought against racism for people of his colour. But was racist against "darker" black people.
It's strange how racist, anti Islam foke are happy to forget they stance if people can kick a ball, punch someone or sing.'"
OK, as you're talking about people being anti Islam, I'm assuming you're not talking about Ali, so who are you speaking about here?
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| Quote ="Sandro II Terrorista"I agree with you, although in boxing i think it's impossible to compare and contrast different eras and weights.
If i had to, from the many, many days i've spent watching old footage, i'd go Ray Robinson, utterly beautiful to watch.'"
Sugar Ray Robinson was probably the greatest fighter of all time a class above anyone else
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| Have a bit of respect the blokes just died.
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| Quote ="hull2524"Have a bit of respect the blokes just died.'"
What your not allowed to have an opinion because someone died everyone has different views id rather people spoke there true feelings than be phoney which usually happens when somebody dies
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| Quote ="Keith_Lard"Bottled it when it came to serving his country'"
'No Vietcong ever called me a n#gger'. A reasonable reason to not go slaughtering people who he had no argument with FOR people who would happily lynch him.
As for Sheldon's idea that he was racist. Really. A very simple interpretation of a very complicated world of American race politics in which he grew up.
He helped and gave to people of all races. A remarkable man.
Liston got destroyed in their first fight. Even tried to blind Ali to slow him after that he threw it in because he knew it was only ending one way. Like Tyson biting Holyfield to avoid a second beating Liston chucked it again as he was getting another beating in the return. 'The job's threw lots of fights which you'd never know about until after. Ali destroyed Liston's mind then backed it up in the ring. Liston was a mess after 2 rounds.
Best boxer. Him, Ray Robinson, Jack Johnson. Unforgivable Blackness is a remarkable read of Johnson's life. Did it all 40 years before Ali.
World was a better place with Ali in it.
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| War is murder to make the rich richer and keep the ants suppressed !!!
Looked like a great boxer from footage I've seen . imo tyson when his head was on straight would have cleaned him out , but I know boxing has changed over the years so know one will ever know.
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| just old school as far as people passing away, I like to respect the old fashion values, am not saying he was perfect and I disagreed with a lot he said, but there we go,
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"'No Vietcong ever called me a n#gger'. A reasonable reason to not go slaughtering people who he had no argument with FOR people who would happily lynch him.
As for Sheldon's idea that he was racist. Really. A very simple interpretation of a very complicated world of American race politics in which he grew up.
He helped and gave to people of all races. A remarkable man.
Liston got destroyed in their first fight. Even tried to blind Ali to slow him after that he threw it in because he knew it was only ending one way. Like Tyson biting Holyfield to avoid a second beating Liston chucked it again as he was getting another beating in the return. 'The job's threw lots of fights which you'd never know about until after. Ali destroyed Liston's mind then backed it up in the ring. Liston was a mess after 2 rounds.
Best boxer. Him, Ray Robinson, Jack Johnson. Unforgivable Blackness is a remarkable read of Johnson's life. Did it all 40 years before Ali.
World was a better place with Ali in it.'"
Fighters ruin there reputation by taking fights they never should Ali should have never fought Holmes Holmes should never have fought Tyson and Danny Williams didn't deserve to be in the same ring as Tyson never mind beating him IMO Tyson at his peak would have destroyed anybody
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