Listened to it on the radio.

We've solved our away form and inconsistency then!

Sounds like we gifted them 75% possession mostly in our half, if not through error then through penalty. Sounds like we had no luck and some bizarre decisions against us. Attack misfired again.

Defensive tiredness opened up the floodgates towards the end. Heard Graeme Horne was out on his feet most of the second half, yet Holker didn't get on until minute 70 as a replacement for James Green. Bizarre coaching from Chester. Doesn't trust Holker with many minutes it seems.

Will watch on Hull KR TV and post further comments.

Men against boys, we better get used to it again.

I said after the Cas game that it felt like a preseason friendly. We seem to be pretty far off being ready for the start of Super League if you ask me.

How have we got into this state when a third of our team is unavailable thru injury and suspension after only two games?!

The players put some real effort in today, as always, they deserve a better system than the one we have. Our coach and Poching need to go, we need an experienced head in charge. For those that will say we are too small, we are not, we have some big lads in our side our problems are the defensive system. Anyhow, we must be big enough to let Coxie go!

Let's face it we are not good enough
Too many players either not good enough
Not big enough and a coaching staff that should have gone when Sanndercock went
A chairman that is a great supporter and kept us afloat but seems not strong enough
But most of all a OCE or whatever his title is was ok at Skirlaugh but when it comes to superleague as about as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike
He goes to Australia and listens to the agents over there who are second hand car salesmen for that is all they are selling cars that no one else wants and as supporters we stand for all the bull dung they want to throw at us
But to top it all so the word on the street is Macnamara to take Chesters place next year
GOD help us if that happens mind if we are in the championship he might look good there but I doubt it.
Ok it's only 2 games in and maybe I am panicking,too right I'm panicking we have more holes in our defence than the proverbial cullender
Get rid of Chester now give it to anyone that wants it for we can't get any worse

Our defense isn't organized, so our players are getting injured because they're tackling the opposition when the they are running at full tilt.

Got to agree with you about Chester and Macnamara, but we need something we have never had in Super League, an experienced coach.

Everything will be fine once you get campo and lunt back



Joking apart, you're suffering from a lack of investment in your youth structres since you came into SL. Now you've piggy backed onto our excellent youth structure it will all come good. It's what the mysterious 5 year plan is.

Y1 - convince pearson to give us a massive leg up by giving us access to his youth development set up
Y2 - sign some over the hill aussies, championship players and leeds cast offs - do well in the middle 8's
Y3- sign some over the hill aussies, championship players and leeds cast offs - do well in the middle 8's
Y4 - sign some over the hill aussies, championship players and leeds cast offs - do well in the middle 8's
Y5- Pray that some of the kids coming through actually want tot sign for us and not Hull

Joking apart, whilst Hull's overseas recruitment has been good in the off season (excellent even), I bet they're not paying more for their overseas players than rovers are. Where Hull are benefiting is having young local lads in the mix who probably cost less than market value. It's the same model which has seen leeds, wigan and saints be successful in recent years. You just can't spend your way to success as the good doctor is finding out at salford.

Anyway, you're probably a point ahead of where you expected to be at this stage and a relatively easy 2 points to come next week then a game against a saints side who look out of form and will be backing up from the WCC. You could be 5 points from 8 in a couple of weeks

Surely Mcnamara will have benefitted from his time at the Roosters in the NRL and in charge of England. Must know good defensive structures than the ones we are deploying at the mo.

Surely you could have only dreamed of picking up an ex international coach with experience in SL and the NRL? mcnamara fits the bill to a tee for you

I'm actually in a good place, a serene place. I have already accepted we are bottom two. Try it you'll love yourself again.

Grossly imbalanced squad. Too many players who do the same thing and no quality in the forwards. Two over seas spots on the wing! The're two great wingers but for 2 quota spots. Maybe one winger on the quota. The rest have to have more influence on a game.
Too many panic buys ( Tilse being the most obvious and Lunt for 4 years) and terrible re signings (Horne and the bigot when Welham was let go).
Chester comes over as a decent bloke and I don't wish anyone to be sacked but he speaks and behaves like an amateur coach. He appears out of his depth. Whoever comes after him has a massive job on their hands.
Last week's bizarre game in a blizzard didn't convince me. We could beat Wakefield and saints but that would say more about them at this time than us.
Unless Campese stays fit for the season we are bottom 3.

Macnamara has done nothing as a coach, we have had plenty of those thank you. What we need is somebody who has been there and done it.

Doesn't everyone? Few and far between though. FWIW I reckon macnamara will come back from oz a pretty decent coach

Take a punt on Rowley, although you'd end up being a team of sh**houses

As we lack size we need line speed & aggression. We have neither. Plus we seem to have abandoned marker defence completely.

6 tries to 2 is no worse than I expected. Just sums up where we are at the moment.

Don't judge Steve Mac by what happened at the Bulls. Never had a chance.

I don't think we lack size, not in the front row, but we do lack line speed and I agree with you all that our marker defense does is give away penalties. If we need a lesson on what a well coached marker defense does we only have to watch the Wembley video, Leeds were awesome.

We lack s#it houses. Teams must love playing us. Nothing to be scared of. Horne v Westwood is a f#cking mis match.

In fairness you don't have many coaches that have a 'decent' track record when getting a new job.

Wigan - Wane - First HC Job
St Helens - Cunningham - First HC Job
Hull FC - Radford - First HC Job
Huddersfield - Anderson - First HC Job
Catalans - Frayssinous - First HC Job
Widnes - Betts - First HC Job
Salford - Watson - First HC Job
Leeds - McDermott - Made the play-offs for Harlequins.

Disagree with this. His record in charge of our national side recently has been OK and he has left that job on a high. We were a Kevin Sinfield brain fart and just 37 seconds away from a World Cup final last time out and we beat the same opposition in the last test series. He was sounding more purposeful, mature and professional during his recent interviews too.

However, when one of the NRL's best ever coaches comes knocking to declare his interest, the RFL would have been daft to spurn that opportunity.

Mcnamara for Rovers if available

Personally I would like to see Kear because he has had an immediate impact wherever he has gone, failing that Goef Toovey is available.

The model that has seen Leeds, Wigan and Saints be successful is in having more money to spend across the board than anybody else. Youth is only part of that. You can spend your way to success, the failure of koucash to do so yet does not show it to be impossible. Moran has done okay at Warrington, after a couple of false starts. Our own short-termism yielded relative success in 2009 and 2010. Pearson has said he is paying more than ever on player wages this year, and has cashed in on Lineham and Westerman to invest in experienced Polynesians. The invest in youth line - well there's some truth in it, but on the keys to success list, realistically it is down at about number 5 or 6. It doesn't help that we've not produced much talent, but it hasn't been our most problematic issue.

There's a gap between what people want to be true (you can't buy success, investing in youth is key, there's loads of talent in the championship) and what is true (you can, it isn't and there's a good deal more in Polynesia). The important thing is we know which is which and plan accordingly.

What's all this about defensive structures all load of crap
If you don't move up in a line as we found loads of time with Welham when shot line leaving a gap an under 8 could have spotted you have no chance
Never let a man get outside you especially wingers how many times do we see our wingers 10 yards in from the side line and the opposition get round them,if you stand on your line he has to come in and the cover takes his centre or who ever is there.
This structure so called defensive systems are a load of sxxxe take your man half the players can't think for themselves, too much crap in there heads don't go there you must be here rubbish take your man that's your job balls to anyone else if I do my job and everyone does there's the defence will work

Is it poor structures or more that it's hard to maintain structures when you're not winning the collision and getting trampled?

Makes you wonder why Pearson decided to merge with Rovers youth if it is the way forwards.
I thought both clubs stated that it was a cost cutting exercise.