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| So Chris Chester drops Gardner and Caro comes straight back into the squad (rather than persisting with two pensioners on the wings). Also certain mid term injuries suddenly being ready to play. Coincidence?
I get the feeling that Sandy just liked playing his favourites rather than the "right" player for the job. Might also explain his persistence with Withers for two seasons even though we all knew he was pants.
Lovegrove, another person Sandy obviously didn't like, might up his game again now.
Oh, and Burns is still in the squad, despite rumours of him becoming a free agent now.
All interesting, very interesting......
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| Gardner can't play as part of his loan agreement.
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| Quote ="Gallanteer"So Chris Chester drops Gardner and Caro comes straight back into the squad (rather than persisting with two pensioners on the wings). Also certain mid term injuries suddenly being ready to play. Coincidence?
I get the feeling that Sandy just liked playing his favourites rather than the "right" player for the job. Might also explain his persistence with Withers for two seasons even though we all knew he was pants.
Lovegrove, another person Sandy obviously didn't like, might up his game again now.
Oh, and Burns is still in the squad, despite rumours of him becoming a free agent now.
All interesting, very interesting......'"
Gardner isn't allowed to play against his parent club, shame really because that particular pensioner has been one of our most consistent performers since he arrived.
Let's just hope Caro doesn't continue where he left off in his last 2 first team outings against FC and Catalan, or it may be a long afternoon for him.
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| Quote ="Dudley"Gardner isn't allowed to play against his parent club, shame really because that particular pensioner has been one of our most consistent performers since he arrived.
Let's just hope Caro doesn't continue where he left off in his last 2 first team outings against FC and Catalan, or it may be a long afternoon for him.'"
Gardner got found out against Cas though. Looked very old. Caro was our top try scorer going into the Catalans gam. He got targetted the whole game and apart from a couple of mistakes held up well.
There is no future in Gardner or Disco. Caro is 100% better than he was in 2013. Should not have let Alex Brown go either, he was improving.
I have stated many times that we have good players just not a team, and that was down to Sandercock. Lets see how they fair without whinging Sandercock.
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| Brown chose to go, I really hope Omari goes well, I don't think he's anywhere near as error prone as people say he is.
Unfortunately, I can't be there, got a date with Holme Moss.
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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"Brown chose to go, I really hope Omari goes well, I don't think he's anywhere near as error prone as people say he is.
Unfortunately, I can't be there, got a date with Holme Moss.'"
I wouldn't miss the start of the post-Sandercock era for a date with Kate Moss.
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| What do you hope to see different Stan apart from the obvious
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"What do you hope to see different Stan apart from the obvious'"
A stunning performance worthy of a grand final. It's the least he will expect now the anti-christ has been ousted.
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"What do you hope to see different Stan apart from the obvious'"
Not a lot given a massive 2 days to prepare. However it would be nice to accept defeat in a dignified manner for a change.
Unlike on here, my area of the East Stand will feel the same as me, glad to see the back of him. Set of fannies round here.
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| Quote ="SirStan"Not a lot given a massive 2 days to prepare. However it would be nice to accept defeat in a dignified manner for a change.
Unlike on here, my area of the East Stand will feel the same as me, glad to see the back of him. Set of fannies round here.'"
Classy!
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| 1 day to prepare as the players had Friday off !!!
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| Well maybe after we gat beat Chester will not blame the ref or the fact saints have a team of internationals or the video ref or its raining etc. I hope,still he is only keeping the seat warm for our next great coach
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| Quote ="SirStan"Not a lot given a massive 2 days to prepare. However it would be nice to accept defeat in a dignified manner for a change.
Unlike on here, my area of the East Stand will feel the same as me, glad to see the back of him. Set of fannies round here.'"
That's good set the bar high. Dignified in defeat is the new yard stick for Hull Kingston Rovers. With this kind of pressure I feel Chester may not be up to it.
Be very interesting how the players 're act Sunday. This all seems a colossal mess. There has been a huge improvement in young players with half a dozen looking good long term prospects.
Has the rumour of Burns release clause been confirmed or denied anywhere. Newton left with Morgan. Burns stated when he came he had better offers but wanted to play for Sandercock.
Wonder why the players had Friday off? Resentment in the ranks?
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"That's good set the bar high. Dignified in defeat is the new yard stick for Hull Kingston Rovers. With this kind of pressure I feel Chester may not be up to it.
Be very interesting how the players 're act Sunday. This all seems a colossal mess. There has been a huge improvement in young players with half a dozen looking good long term prospects.
Has the rumour of Burns release clause been confirmed or denied anywhere. Newton left with Morgan. Burns stated when he came he had better offers but wanted to play for Sandercock.
Wonder why the players had Friday off? Resentment in the ranks?'"
I'd love to know where this misnomer that out youth development has been so good has come from. Weve produced no more than we did under morgan.
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| Quote ="barham red"I'd love to know where this misnomer that out youth development has been so good has come from. Weve produced no more than we did under morgan.'"
This.
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| Quote ="barham red"I'd love to know where this misnomer that out youth development has been so good has come from. Weve produced no more than we did under morgan.'"
Well other than the fluke of Welham we had Latus under Morgan and weekly batterings for the youth teams. Now the youth teams appear competitive each week with half a dozen in first team squad contention.
No change then or just a misnomer?
Ps do you and Stan come as a pair?
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"
Ps do you and Stan come as a pair?'"
Do you and Sandercock?
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| Quote ="SirStan"Do you and Sandercock?'"
Clearly not. I just have a different opinion to you. But that doesn't seem to be allowed on here.
I just want the club to do well. Sacking Sandercock maybe the answer. It maybe a terrible decision. It hasn't been handled well at all it seems.
You looking forward to losing with dignity Sunday?
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"Well other than the fluke of Welham we had Latus under Morgan and weekly batterings for the youth teams. Now the youth teams appear competitive each week with half a dozen in first team squad contention.
No change then or just a misnomer?
Ps do you and Stan come as a pair?'"
Taylor's done ok for himself, cox debuted under Morgan as did green I think. Still the welham fluke suits your remit better
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"Clearly not. I just have a different opinion to you. But that doesn't seem to be allowed on here.
I just want the club to do well. Sacking Sandercock maybe the answer. It maybe a terrible decision. It hasn't been handled well at all it seems.
You looking forward to losing with dignity Sunday?'"
It seems it's me that's not allowed an opinion that differs to yours.
For the life of me I struggle to see how it can be a terrible decision. If he'd stayed Based on this year and previous year on year 'improvement' in a 12 team league next year we'll be bottom 3 at best. Salford will come good. Hull who knows and wakey will be our competition, could it be worse??
I posted a list of questions to you on a previous thread that outlined my opinion and I'm still waiting for anyone to answer them to the contrary. Just because I'm not an east stand apologist sheep doesn't devalue my opinion.
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"Clearly not. I just have a different opinion to you. But that doesn't seem to be allowed on here.
I just want the club to do well. Sacking Sandercock maybe the answer. It maybe a terrible decision. It hasn't been handled well at all it seems.
You looking forward to losing with dignity Sunday?'"
You sure do, I don't fall for all the rfl consiracy bull for 1 and I don't like seeing the club settling for mediocrity under the last coaching set up, unlike you.
As for Sunday, I will be shouting the team on as I always do, but won't turn a blind eye when we throw forward passes and stand offside. I will be overjoyed if we pull off a very unlikely win, but won't go round crying foul if we lose.
You still got a [ifatwa[/i out on Tim Roby?
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| Quote ="barham red"It seems it's me that's not allowed an opinion that differs to yours.
For the life of me I struggle to see how it can be a terrible decision. If he'd stayed Based on this year and previous year on year 'improvement' in a 12 team league next year we'll be bottom 3 at best. Salford will come good. Hull who knows and wakey will be our competition, could it be worse??
I posted a list of questions to you on a previous thread that outlined my opinion and I'm still waiting for anyone to answer them to the contrary. Just because I'm not an east stand apologist sheep doesn't devalue my opinion.'"
I did reply to some of the questions you posted. Here goes at my take on them.
Why have we not progressed over the last 3 seasons as we'd want. A variety of reasons.
Having to replace key players Dobson Green Taylor Paea Newton Briscoe Fox etc who left for a variety of reasons. Other teams recruitment and development Widnes Cas Catalan Etc. Why the he'll weren't we in for Dorn or Hauraki for instance. These are big rugby clubs with resources to match ours and intelligent people running them. To expect them to stand still while we have a free hand is a little naive.
Bad tactics in some games.
Some horrible injuries to key players. We have lost Poore Langley Larroyer etc over the last two months alone. Sandercock certainly hasnt been lucky. Something Napoleon thought reasonably important.
Vindictive incompetent officials.
The chairman spending a lot of last season debating whether he'd continue (though that isn't to blame him as if not for him we probably wouldn't exist anymore).
The crowd turning on the team which started in Morgan's last season.
Finishing 4th leading lots of folk to think we'd do that every year.
On and on. A myriad of things in summary.
For me Sandercock had many faults but did have a good long term view. Bet he's quickly in work in the NRL. As I've posted before could be a good thing letting him go could be a disaster.
The names banded about to replace him are underwhelming and the whole thing has a feeling of shambles about it at present.
My point about different opinions was aimed at Stan. He comes over as a bit of a bully and has bored me sh##less with his constant moaning this season.
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"I did reply to some of the questions you posted. Here goes at my take on them.
Why have we not progressed over the last 3 seasons as we'd want. A variety of reasons.
Having to replace key players Dobson Green Taylor Paea Newton Briscoe Fox etc who left for a variety of reasons. Other teams recruitment and development Widnes Cas Catalan Etc. Why the he'll weren't we in for Dorn or Hauraki for instance. These are big rugby clubs with resources to match ours and intelligent people running them. To expect them to stand still while we have a free hand is a little naive.
Bad tactics in some games.
Some horrible injuries to key players. We have lost Poore Langley Larroyer etc over the last two months alone. Sandercock certainly hasnt been lucky. Something Napoleon thought reasonably important.
Vindictive incompetent officials.
The chairman spending a lot of last season debating whether he'd continue (though that isn't to blame him as if not for him we probably wouldn't exist anymore).
The crowd turning on the team which started in Morgan's last season.
Finishing 4th leading lots of folk to think we'd do that every year.
On and on. A myriad of things in summary.
For me Sandercock had many faults but did have a good long term view. Bet he's quickly in work in the NRL. As I've posted before could be a good thing letting him go could be a disaster.
The names banded about to replace him are underwhelming and the whole thing has a feeling of shambles about it at present.
My point about different opinions was aimed at Stan. He comes over as a bit of a bully and has bored me sh##less with his constant moaning this season.'"
Glad to be of service. You just bore the rest of us with your pathetic insistence of rfl conspiracies.
Vindictive? Grow up man.
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| Quote ="SirStan"You sure do, I don't fall for all the rfl consiracy bull for 1 and I don't like seeing the club settling for mediocrity under the last coaching set up, unlike you.
As for Sunday, I will be shouting the team on as I always do, but won't turn a blind eye when we throw forward passes and stand offside. I will be overjoyed if we pull off a very unlikely win, but won't go round crying foul if we lose.
You still got a [ifatwa[/i out on Tim Roby?'"
Oh Stan Stan and his moral high horse....
There's no conspiracy theory. They are just grossly incompetent and some vindictive.
The fatwah on the bearded infidel stands.
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"Oh Stan Stan and his moral high horse....
There's no conspiracy theory. They are just grossly incompetent and some vindictive.
The fatwah on the bearded infidel stands.'"
Name names then, who's on the "vindictive" list this week? Does the list change from week to week depending on results?
Fatwa, we drop our h's round these parts.
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