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Rovers Chairman pulls no punches in the Official Club Statement on yesterday's VR fiasco...
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Hull KR chairman Neil Hudgell has called for a full explanation from the RFL after video referee Steve Ganson chose to award a contentious, late try to Hull FC yesterday and has issued the following statement:
I am a pragmatist, it's gone now. We can't get the result back. We have to take it on the chin, give credit to FC for sticking in, and respond in the right way. I know that come the middle of the week this will all be consigned to history and we will sit and look at the table and see ourselves sitting outside the top eight. It is up to us to show resolve and not let this ruin our season. At the same time though, I owe it to the fans, players and coach to ask for the RFL to issue a proper explanation for what has to be the single worst decision in the last 10 years of rugby league.
Going into the last 10 minutes we had three tough calls go against us, with a blatant knock on in the lead up to Hull’s first try, a phantom offside by us giving them the position from which Kirk Yeaman scored, and a video referee decision on the grounding which was highly questionable in my opinion. I can’t have any complaints over those in isolation, although they were wrong, in the same way we benefitted from some similar calls last year. But any one of them being called right would have avoided the last call. The amount of money and resource ploughed into the officials' department entitles us to expect better and more consistently correct decisions.
I had a call last night from Steve Ganson with an apology and explanation for making the wrong decision. I like Steve and respect him for doing that, and our conversation will remain private. The apology since issued by the RFL though is wholly inadequate. I have a group of players who are distraught that their efforts have not had the reward which they deserved. I have supporters who have again turned up in their numbers at great expense and who feel cheated, and a coach fighting for a new deal whose livelihood could stand or fall on these decisions.
For all of them I need more than ‘sorry’ from an ex-Hull FC player, coach and vocal advocate down the years. It is empty and tokenistic and an insult to our fans. The clear impression is that ‘sorry’ is enough and all is forgotten come Tuesday when everyone goes back to work. They are baffled and mystified and need to know why the call was made, and what lessons will be learnt from it.
In my opinion, we are no further on in improving the standard of refereeing than we were at the inaugural Magic Weekend when there was the Leeds versus Bradford fiasco, and the reason for that, in no small part, is down to the ‘respect campaign’. Legitimate criticism and debate is suppressed by a zealous desire to cover over incompetence, serious weaknesses and under performance. Every week someone, somewhere feels aggrieved, and it’s us this week. I have zero confidence that will change any time soon.'"
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Rovers Chairman pulls no punches in the Official Club Statement on yesterday's VR fiasco...
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Hull KR chairman Neil Hudgell has called for a full explanation from the RFL after video referee Steve Ganson chose to award a contentious, late try to Hull FC yesterday and has issued the following statement:
I am a pragmatist, it's gone now. We can't get the result back. We have to take it on the chin, give credit to FC for sticking in, and respond in the right way. I know that come the middle of the week this will all be consigned to history and we will sit and look at the table and see ourselves sitting outside the top eight. It is up to us to show resolve and not let this ruin our season. At the same time though, I owe it to the fans, players and coach to ask for the RFL to issue a proper explanation for what has to be the single worst decision in the last 10 years of rugby league.
Going into the last 10 minutes we had three tough calls go against us, with a blatant knock on in the lead up to Hull’s first try, a phantom offside by us giving them the position from which Kirk Yeaman scored, and a video referee decision on the grounding which was highly questionable in my opinion. I can’t have any complaints over those in isolation, although they were wrong, in the same way we benefitted from some similar calls last year. But any one of them being called right would have avoided the last call. The amount of money and resource ploughed into the officials' department entitles us to expect better and more consistently correct decisions.
I had a call last night from Steve Ganson with an apology and explanation for making the wrong decision. I like Steve and respect him for doing that, and our conversation will remain private. The apology since issued by the RFL though is wholly inadequate. I have a group of players who are distraught that their efforts have not had the reward which they deserved. I have supporters who have again turned up in their numbers at great expense and who feel cheated, and a coach fighting for a new deal whose livelihood could stand or fall on these decisions.
For all of them I need more than ‘sorry’ from an ex-Hull FC player, coach and vocal advocate down the years. It is empty and tokenistic and an insult to our fans. The clear impression is that ‘sorry’ is enough and all is forgotten come Tuesday when everyone goes back to work. They are baffled and mystified and need to know why the call was made, and what lessons will be learnt from it.
In my opinion, we are no further on in improving the standard of refereeing than we were at the inaugural Magic Weekend when there was the Leeds versus Bradford fiasco, and the reason for that, in no small part, is down to the ‘respect campaign’. Legitimate criticism and debate is suppressed by a zealous desire to cover over incompetence, serious weaknesses and under performance. Every week someone, somewhere feels aggrieved, and it’s us this week. I have zero confidence that will change any time soon.'"
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No matter what people say about neil he says it like it is well done, but we will not get the points back ganson the guy is terrible if we did it in our jobs has much has he does we would be sacked
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No matter what people say about neil he says it like it is well done, but we will not get the points back ganson the guy is terrible if we did it in our jobs has much has he does we would be sacked
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Hudge going mental !
Did Adam do this after your Quarterback pass last year ? Did Gentle freak out last year ? NO
No class again from Hudge
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Hudge going mental !
Did Adam do this after your Quarterback pass last year ? Did Gentle freak out last year ? NO
No class again from Hudge
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| Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"https://twitter.com/hdmsport#
Hudge going mental !
Did Adam do this after your Quarterback pass last year ? Did Gentle freak out last year ? NO
No class again from Hudge'"
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| Absolutely pathetic.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Absolutely pathetic.'"
No Sunshine, You ar pathetic.
Neil Hudgell states that Ganson called him to apologise.
He is absolutely right in this statement.
RL is becoming a joke through these decisions.
The FA are considering using video evidence at Football matches to make the game fairer, so these decisions are dealt with properly.
I can guarantee we dont see the same fiascos in Football.
Well done Hudge.
All RL fans are saying the same. Even Hull FC fans admit Ganson was wrong.
We see these ridiculous decisions every week.
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| Why don't the Hull fans just stick to one of the 500 threads they have going on the subject no need to keep coming on our board really is there
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| Ganson's apologised, the RFL have made a statement, what more does he expect?
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Ganson's apologised, the RFL have made a statement, what more does he expect?'"
Compensation?
In Hudge world where there is blame there is a claim.
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| Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"https://twitter.com/hdmsport#
Hudge going mental !
Did Adam do this after your Quarterback pass last year ? Did Gentle freak out last year ? NO
No class again from Hudge'"
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Absolutely pathetic.'"
your team are pathetic you clown did you see pearson and mcraes face when we beat you at the kc im proud of rovers the way they played fc was expecting a walk over, if you think gentle and fc are top 8 material you are a fool,
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| The 'pragmatist' paragraph, I agree with completely.
I'm not a fan of Jon Sharp, after his 'friends at Hull FC' comment in 2007 - but what else can he say about this? Is there a fuller explanation, beyond human (very poor) error?
Whether we need to move more from respect to performance assessment - maybe we need more of the latter, but it is crucial we retain the former.
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| Quote ="wilde-robin"your team are pathetic you clown
did you see pearson and mcraes face when we beat you at the kc
im proud of rovers the way they played fc was expecting a walk over, if you think gentle and fc are top 8 material you are a fool,'"
Yeah I saw their faces, as glum as I'd expect them to be as the team were having their asses handed to them. They were probably furious last year about Ganson's inability to spot a blatant forward pass.
What makes this statement pathetic is that he's had a personal apology, there's been a public apology and the RFL have issued a statement saying it was wrong, yet he still releases this crap! Even your own fans have started to move on yet he still seeks further explanation? It just shows him as bitter, no doubt lines like 'our fans deserve' and 'I have to explain to our fans' blah blah blah means you'll all be lapping it up, just like you hang off every word he says.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"The 'pragmatist' paragraph, I agree with completely.
I'm not a fan of Jon Sharp, after his 'friends at Hull FC' comment in 2007 - but what else can he say about this? Is there a fuller explanation, beyond human (very poor) error?
Whether we need to move more from respect to performance assessment - maybe we need more of the latter, but it is crucial we retain the former.'"
Quite right MR. I am aware you can't be seen to say it but it's a complete lack of respect being shown. The RFL took the unprecedented move to issue full private and public apologies. There's little else that can be done. The 'some ex-FC player' comment says it all.
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| Quote ="wilde-robin"your team are pathetic you clown
did you see pearson and mcraes face when we beat you at the kc
im proud of rovers the way they played fc was expecting a walk over, if you think gentle and fc are top 8 material you are a fool,'"
We finished 6th last year. We're currently in 6th.
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| Respect goes both ways. Where was the respect from Ganson for both these teams in this close fought contest?
Ganson is a premadonna that loves to be bigger than the game. All clubs have sufferred unexplainable decisions from this 'character'. He brings the whole game into disripute when it happens and makes the whole sport seem amateurish and fixed which is the worst advert possible for our great game.
Forget reorganising the league sort out the basics of having competant referees.
Enough is enough. An example must be set. #sackganson
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| Comes across as very bitter and pathetic.
Game is over, apologies have been made, Ganson has been withdrawn from today's video refereeing duty (with probably more to come)..... Not sure what else Hudge is expecting to happen? Pointless.
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| All I want now is the RFL to clarify how it won't happen again.
Root Cause Corrective Action is what it's called in my job if a mistake is made.
Identify what went wrong.
Then state what preventative measures have been put in place to prevent reoccurance.
That has not happened so far but maybe it's too soon and might happen during the next week or two
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| Whats the point of two teams throwing absolutely everything at each other for 80 mins and then an idiot in a box tosses a coin to decide who wins? #sackganson
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| Quote ="Gallanteer"Whats the point of two teams throwing absolutely everything at each other for 80 mins and then an idiot in a box tosses a coin to decide who wins? #sackganson'"
I agree.
Couldnt believe it when he handed you the game last year, the man is fool.
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| Quote ="Jimmy Carr"I agree.
Couldnt believe it when he handed you the game last year, the man is fool.'"
Dobsons try didnt win us the game. Your sides inability to tackle a slow ginger haired disco dancer going 75 meters did.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Dobsons try didnt win us the game. Your sides inability to tackle a slow ginger haired disco dancer going 75 meters did.'"
His try wouldn't have made the difference though would it, without that pass?
We could go all day on this one, but cant be bothered, you can have the last word!
Ganson is a clown, he cost us the game last year IMO, and he's cost you it this. The end result was the same, the better team on the day didnt get the points.
Its your fans, chairman and manager who seem to think one is worse than the other.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Absolutely pathetic.'"
I take it you're referring to the "Steve Ganson has always had it in for Hull FC" mentality exhibited by many of your fans up to yesterday.
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| Quote ="Jimmy Carr"His try wouldn't have made the difference though would it, without that pass?
We could go all day on this one, but cant be bothered, you can have the last word!
Ganson is a clown, he cost us the game last year IMO, and he's cost you it this. The end result was the same, the better team on the day didnt get the points.
Its your fans, chairman and manager who seem to think one is worse than the other.'"
It just us though is it?
It's almost every none FC fan who has commented on it.
If you want to keep pretending it's the same go ahead those without black and white specs can see it isn't however.
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| "For all of them I need more than ‘sorry’ from an ex-Hull FC player, coach and vocal advocate down the years."
That quote there completely ruined the entire statement and showed his true colours. Completely uncalled for and completely unnecessary. It's comments like that that create unneeded ill-feeling between the clubs. I'm glad some of the more level-headed Rovers fans can see that. I just don't see what he hopes to achieve from making that comment.
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