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| Imo, Hall is the most talented player in Rovers squad.
When he is confident like he is atm he can create things from absolutely nothing, yes he is prone to moments of complete berkishness but when he screws his head on he is brilliant.
When we get Green back it would be a big mistake to sling him back out on the wing for the full 80. If nothing more he creates a fantastic foil for Dobson and Green.
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| Quote ="EL CAMO"Imo, Hall is the most talented player in Rovers squad.
When he is confident like he is atm he can create things from absolutely nothing, yes he is prone to moments of complete berkishness but when he screws his head on he is brilliant.
When we get Green back it would be a big mistake to sling him back out on the wing for the full 80. If nothing more he creates a fantastic foil for Dobson and Green.'"
Encouraging and perhaps surprisingly good performances this season, however i disagree with 'most talented'. As half backs, Dobson and Green come above him however it is great to have someone as capable as Hall as back up in that position. When Green returns, it will be interesting to see if Hall still drifts infield occasionally or is back on the wing full stop
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| When I said most talented, I should have probably worded it differently, I meant more that he has the most natural ability.
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| Maybe stick him on the wing for the defensive sets and swap him with Lovegrove on attacking sets like we are doing at the moment only Hall playing at 13 instead of 6 in the attacking sets?
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| think he needs to come inside on attacking sets even when green is back. full back maybe in attacking sets???
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| Quote ="phleastyler"think he needs to come inside on attacking sets even when green is back. full back maybe in attacking sets???'"
Nah.
We wanted a full back with more attacking prowess (McDonnell) rather than someone who'll break their face making a try-saving tackle (Brisc) but not necessarily offer much going forward. Now you want to have an attacking FB, defending at FB and attacking on the wing? Sounds logical.
Here's a fantastic idea, why don't we play Wingers on the wing, LF's at LF and Fullbacks at Full back? Injury free squad permitting, obviously.
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| Quote ="dum-dum".
Here's a fantastic idea, why don't we play Wingers on the wing, LF's at LF and Fullbacks at Full back? Injury free squad permitting, obviously.'"
Where's the fun in that
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| I hate the saying of "most natural ability" its not something i agree with at all - it takes hard work and commitment.
Triple Ds...
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With this anyone who puts their mind to it can be a great player.
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| Quote ="very red robin"I hate the saying of "most natural ability" its not something i agree with at all - it takes hard work and commitment.
Triple Ds...
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With this anyone who puts their mind to it can be a great player.'"
Not without natural ability they won't. I can work harder than the next man but ill never play S/L bescause unfortunately I don't have the ability.
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| Quote ="very red robin"I hate the saying of "most natural ability" its not something i agree with at all - it takes hard work and commitment.
Triple Ds...
Dedication
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With this anyone who puts their mind to it can be a great player.'"
Triple Ds . . ! are we talking about recruitment attributes for cheer leaders lol!
It'll bring back the missing thousand on the gate (might even attract more)
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| Craig halls dad was a fullback who turned in to a good loose forward till a certain Aussie player destroyed him big Mal meninga{ hope thats spelt right}
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| Seriously, though, I raised this point on another topic and the consensus of those commenting was put Hally back on the wing.
I think now that his talent has been give space to flourish (which, by the way he has always had), it would be a waste to parcel it back up! The problem is he is too good to be a winger, too light at the moment to play at loose forward. Off half is his 'natural' position.
I'm a traditionalist (like dum-dum) and like to see players in their positional roles (not this switch malarkey), and if anything I can see Greeny being more suited to the loose forward role, which would create the space for Craig to play at 6 (even with the switch play!).
I think a Rovers team brimming with playmakers like Dobbo, Green, Galea, Withers, Josh Hodg and now Hall, would be fantastic.
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| Quote ="cravenpark1"Craig halls dad was a fullback who turned in to a good loose forward till a certain Aussie player destroyed him big Mal meninga{ hope thats spelt right}
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Meninga destroyed most players, but Dave's nemesis was a certain Gavin Miller, brought over as a back-up 2nd rower in the days when if they are Oz they'll be better than British players, who quickly demonstrated extraordinary distribution and off-loading skills.
I rate Gavin as the best loose forward I have seen in a Rovers shirt, but Dave's performance in the 1984 JP final against Classy Cas was the best performance I have seen from a loose forward.
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| Even now, Hall is only half a half - defending on the wing. And he's a tad erratic still.
Also, we don't currently have a lot of cover in the 3/4s. When Green is back, Hall can return to being a normal winger, Lovegrove to being a normal forward and we'll look better balanced, IMO.
Good that he's an extra option. he has adapted well and looks comfortable, so definately a plus.
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| Quote ="very red robin"I hate the saying of "most natural ability" its not something i agree with at all - it takes hard work and commitment.
Triple Ds...
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With this anyone who puts their mind to it can be a great player.'"
OK let's put it another way the way Craig Sandercock described Hall, "He has the ability to do things most players can't and you cannot put a price on that".
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| He should go back on the wing but he needs to be given licence to come into the line around the ruck, his footwork and change of pace have been one of the major factors in line breaks this year.
I'd ideally like to see him in the centres but the fact that this is probably the most difficult defensive position puts me off.
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| Personally I would like to see him paired up with Welham again, their speed and agility complement each other and they can always interchange in attack. This would be far less disruptive than currently switching from off half to wing and leave the middle more settled, Kris is a far better tackler and should stay as a in defence but in attack the two can swop without much change to the structure.
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| Quote ="Chang"Personally I would like to see him paired up with Welham again, their speed and agility complement each other and they can always interchange in attack. This would be far less disruptive than currently switching from off half to wing and leave the middle more settled, Kris is a far better tackler and should stay as a Centre in defence but in attack the two can swop without much change to the structure.'"
Yeh, much prefer to see Hall feed Welham rather than the other way round. Doubt Hall would benefit from passes @ his head/behind and into touch.
As a compromise Hall should just continuously roam from side to side in attack. Everyone will be happy.
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| Quote ="Chang"Personally I would like to see him paired up with Welham again, their speed and agility complement each other and they can always interchange in attack. This would be far less disruptive than currently switching from off half to wing and leave the middle more settled, Kris is a far better tackler and should stay as a Centre in defence but in attack the two can swop without much change to the structure.'"
welhams the worst tackler at the club
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| Why don't we just leave well alone in the halves, drop Lovegrove to the bench and use him as an impact forward and play Green at loose?????????.
Can see that being the way forward IMO
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| Quote ="Andyhullofalad"Why don't we just leave well alone in the halves, drop Lovegrove to the bench and use him as an impact forward and play Green at loose?????????.
Can see that being the way forward IMO
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You think Hall has been [ithat[/i good?
Even if he were (it's all opinions of course), the number of forwards we have in the squad relative to backs makes it unlikely IMO.
Part of the reason the pivots are doing okay is we're playing a big forward at LF (in the runout XIII, at least), and in defence another at SO. Sticking more pivots in instead will start to undermine that platform, possibly.
Nice dilemma to have, I suppose. He has taken the chance that CS said injuries would provide certain players, and it's good to know he has it in his locker, but for me Green goes straight back in at 6, when fit - at the moment. If Hall keeps improving...
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| *Galea will be massive when he comes back as well. Providing yet more options for CS
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| Quote ="☺East-Sard☺"*Galea will be =#0040FFmassive when he comes back as well. Providing yet more options for CS
* assuming his knee is fixed - not like Vella's'"
Put a lot of weight on?
Has Andy been throwing pies at him?
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| Quote ="Sandra The Terrorist"Put a lot of weight on?
Has Andy been throwing pies at him?'"
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| Hall back on the wing as soon as green is back for me, i keep getting scared seeing welham and latus/hodgson(d) and thats our week spot for me- but then hall and webster would do some damage... Confuzzled once again.
Lovegrove to 13 and murrell to not even make the bench.
Mcdonnell (fb)
Hall & webster (wing centre)
Hodgson & welham (wing centre) - still dnt like it tho.
Galea & mika (2nd row)
Dobson & green (7 and 6)
Withers (hooker)
Lovegrove (13)
Paea & clinton (props)
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Hodgson(j) (hooker) - not sure who i would start and who wud be better to come off the bench though.
Horne (to spell 2nd row and keep them fresh)
Watts (if he gets back to his form we no hes capable of, seems difference since his troubles) if noy then O'hara will no doubt soon take that spot.
Taylor (hes going to be ace for us in next few years)
Not sure if i missed anyone out but heyho.
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