Looking ordinary at the moment.

looking better at HT

how the f'ck was O'Loughlins try NOT offside.

Must admit I thought it was offside as well, but TBF I've seen worse VR decisions.

Yes, there have been worse, but it always seems to happens when you need a break in a game. I think there were some wrong decisions tonight by both ref and VR.

Saying that, Wigan well deserved the win. We need some more beef up front or we will suffer against some side.

O`Loughlin, MOM? How? Made loads of mistakes and unforced errors. On Sky he is been bigged up all the time even when he drops it. Wouldnt thank wigan if they gave us him. Paleasena needs to bulk up a bit as well in my opinion.

two tries shouldn't have stood, but you still wouldn't have won. Wigan looked too strong

Feka did a lot of good work in defence tonight, some of the tackles he made tonight he could not of physically made last season.

We were well and truly beaten tonight, no excuses whatsoever. We, as predicted, are looking very lightweight, and as a result I'd be amazed if we make the top 8. I know it's early days etc etc, but we look awful. We have very talented backs, but behind a well beaten pack it just isn't go to work.

Was told to lose weight to get more game time

id have O'Loughlin in our team thanx

Is that you Peter Kay?

Most over rated player in the SL IMO but Wigan fans think the sun shines out of his backside.

And the last 3 x GB/England coaches who've all selected when fit!
In Wigan's Top 3 players EVERY Week and Best 13 in comp (Onoy SInfield can challenge him for me but I would have O'Loughlin).

That means everything then.


Seeing as the likes of Calderwood also got selected for a trip down under for the World cup.

One of the best defenders in SL!

I think that O'loughlin is the best 13 in the Comp although this is likely to change with Dallas Johnson here.

it amazes me when fans can't see the defensive work some players put in, if it isn't a big hit then they don't see it. Jon Clarke at Wire is the same, nowt special going forward but nothing gets past him in defence.

he put in 50+ tackles, distributed well and scored a try.

Not bad for over rated.

Id agree with that.
I still maintain he is over rated though for his all round game and nothing will change that opinion.

But you originally said this



Maybe because we see those35-40 tackles every week means we appreciate what he does and that's why we like him?
Plus his double figure tries every year, his countless try assists & his pretty good kicking game.

Not seen enough of Dallas Johnson, but outside that he's the best 13 in the comp for me.

But despite that you don't think he's any good? I wonder who's opinion I should listen to then!

Look at all Emile Heskey's England Caps.
Coaches get it wrong you know in every sport

Somehow, I'd take a world class and successful coach's view of Heskey, and what he wants him in the team for, rather than yours