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| Leeeds last try was embarrasing, at least a yard offside, okay it might not have changed the result but the video ref (in pub so dont know who it was) should be finished from rugby. it was a disgusting decision and if i was face to face with him would call him a cheat
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| Quote ="The Crown robins"Leeeds last try was embarrasing, at least a yard offside, okay it might not have changed the result but the video ref (in pub so dont know who it was) should be finished from rugby. it was a disgusting decision and if i was face to face with him would call him a cheat
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So how much did you have on Saints then?
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| Quote ="barton baird"So how much did you have on Saints then?'"
i didnt, just like a fair crack to all teams, if that had been us i would have been cringing afterwards (after going mad of course)
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| Eastmond' try was a clear knock-on.
Leeds always looked like they had another gear and are deserved champions.
Let's hope we continue to close the gap on them next year...
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| Quote ="General Zod."Eastmond' try was a clear knock-on.
Leeds always looked like they had another gear and are deserved champions.
Let's hope we continue to close the gap on them next year...'"
Dream on mate.
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| Quote ="General Zod."Eastmond' try was a clear knock-on.'"
Another example of how clinical the game has become. IMO Eastmond juggled the ball, and regained control of it, so for me, it was a try.
We also have this thing of a players body can be outside of the field of play as long as it doesn't touch the floor beyond the touchline, but nudge that corner marker, even in mid air, and ya' out.
Bring back good old winter rugby, grrrrrr.
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"Another example of how clinical the game has become. IMO Eastmond juggled the ball, and regained control of it, so for me, it was a try.
We also have this thing of a players body can be outside of the field of play as long as it doesn't touch the floor beyond the touchline, but nudge that corner marker, even in mid air, and ya' out.
Bring back good old winter rugby, grrrrrr.
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Spot on. What about the downward pressure from a small finger nail as well!.
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| Quote ="General Zod."Eastmond' try was a clear knock-on.
Leeds always looked like they had another gear and are deserved champions.
Let's hope we continue to close the gap on them next year...'"
im not saying Leeds didnt deserve to win because they were the better team and have been all season but decisions like that really get me ed off.
I thought Eastmond try was knocked on but it was a 50/50 call which i can take but Smith try (not try) was a disgrace
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| Quote ="General Zod."Eastmond' try was a clear knock-on.
Leeds always looked like they had another gear and are deserved champions.
Let's hope we continue to close the gap on them next year...'"
Well, you have signed Josh Hodgson and Matt Cook
and Leeds have so far picked up Greg Eastwood and Brett Dealney....
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"Another example of how clinical the game has become. IMO Eastmond juggled the ball, and regained control of it, so for me, it was a try.'"
I tend to agree.
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Bring back good old winter rugby, grrrrrr.
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First round of games next year the first weekend of Feb and due to the WCC there are two SL games over the last weekend in January so you will get your wish.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"I tend to agree.
First round of games next year the first weekend of Feb and due to the WCC there are two SL games over the last weekend in January so you will get your wish.
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You'll think it's winter stood in the south stand at Craven Park next July.
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"You'll think it's winter stood in the south stand at Craven Park next July.'"
They won't come.
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| Quote ="rover49"They won't come.'"
in july? course we won't
be the good friday game
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| Quote ="The Crown robins"Leeeds last try was embarrasing, at least a yard offside, okay it might not have changed the result but the video ref (in pub so dont know who it was) should be finished from rugby. it was a disgusting decision and if i was face to face with him would call him a cheat
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For all I wanted Leeds to win (best team in 2009, Yorkshire) I thought Smiths 2nd try was clearly offside. I think the VR was the only one n the planet who thought it wasn't offside
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| i thought it was fine myself, very clever kick and great angle from smith, he would still have scored if he'd been 2 metres back
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| Quote ="Hutchie"i thought it was fine myself, very clever kick and great angle from smith, he would still have scored if he'd been 2 metres back'"
True, but that makes no difference, he was offside.
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| Having watched the second Lee Smth try a number of times now I've come to the conclusion that anyone who is stating that without doubt he was off-side is indeed superman and has xray vision to be able to see exactly where the ball was in relation to Lee Smith's feet. If this is the case then I can give you the number of the match officials development officer, we can always use people with such special attributes.
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| Quote ="ladyref"Having watched the second Lee Smth try a number of times now I've come to the conclusion that anyone who is stating that without doubt he was off-side is indeed superman and has xray vision to be able to see exactly where the ball was in relation to Lee Smith's feet. '"
In your opinion obviously, but most feel it was offside, which it was.
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"In your opinion obviously, but most feel it was offside, which it was.
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Ahhh now I understand, so "feeling" it is off-side is the way to make a decision. Strange that I prefer to deal in facts not feelings.
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| Quote ="ladyref"Ahhh now I understand, so "feeling" it is off-side is the way to make a decision.
Strange that I prefer to deal in facts not feelings.'"
Ok, so the next point is why the major final of our sport has got limited camera angles for such important decisions, and why between four officials and cameras could they still not come to the correct decision between them?
And yes I know we had the heli cam shot, which unfortunately found itself too far over the roof of the stand to get a decent shot of it, and we had a rail cam on one side of the ground, but not the other.
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| Quote ="ladyref" Strange that I prefer to deal in facts not feelings.'"
You have no feelings, you're a ref.
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| It was offside
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| i'd just like to say i'm glad the video ref got if so wrong last as this just shows the ref's in the game are shi*E in fact there not even that good. as im sure many rugby fans have left many games saying the ref had a shocker granted some times its sour grapes but if your honest enough with yourself everyone left a couple of games this season weather your team has won or lost and thought the ref was shocking i know i have even when we have won
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"It was offside'"
Quite. If it had been Rovers, no camera angle would have been needed.
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| Eastmonds try I thought as perfectly fine if it was knocked on but by Leeds not Saints and so play on and T.R.Y!!
Smiths try was offside, dont give me the facts and feelings rubbish what exactly is this "referee's discretion" and "benefit of the doubt" all about is that not "feelings" but in an official capacity that is ok is it?!
From that camera angle it was clearly offside you know when the ball hits his foot and he was in front of him before it touched his foot so when it was kicked he HAD to be offside!
I wanted Leeds to win because they deserve it after the season they've had but a fair game is a good game so decisions should have been spot on.
Also Ganson penalised Leeds for being offside from a penalty then from a 20mtr restart Saints were clearly offside and Ganson who happily resides in St Helens conveniently didnt pull it up! This is why our game is so laughable at times!!
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