With 5 games to go and looking at who we have left a win against Salford (no chicken counting here) and a.n.other will mean Wigan need 4 from 5 to catch us draws put aside?

Yes you're right mate.

A top-four finish is imperative IMO.

Next week will have a major say in how the top four will finish. With an in form Wigan playing Saints away, and us looking for two points against Cas, a win could see us almost home and dry if Saints do us a favour.

If we win 0 games, Wigan need 2 wins.

If we win 1 game, Wigan need 3 wins.

If we win 2 games, Wigan need 4 wins.

If we win 3 games, Wigan need 5 wins.

If we win 4 games, Wigan are screwed.

Take into account we play; Castleford, Saints, Salford, Warrington then Wakey. They play; Saints, Warrington, Castleford, Hull then Huddersfield. Realistically I see them winning 3 of them games, so one win for us will secure us the spot. Two will keep us safe IMO.

If Rovers play as poor next week at Cas as they did today, they'll get smashed.

You judging that on the fact Hull FC where smashed by Castleford. Remember we aint Hull FC.

he has a point, Cas are a good team.

but there again we're not a bottom 4 team struggling to make the playoffs

Maths and no Mrs Barista. OMG

True! But if we had of played last night like we did at Leeds last week, you would have been "smashed"!

Swings and roundabouts my friend, swings and roundabouts

Is that leeds who got mullered by wigan and struggled to beat wakefield. I hear the only reason you got near them last Friday was due to it pishing it down and levelling it out in your favour. On a dry day they'd have scored 50 against your lot. You can't tackle. We're the 3rd worst attack in SL and still crossed your line 6 times

come early theres road works with long delays on the way to wheldon road. you were lucky last night a bad forward pass decision saved you. see u next week

Yep, double champions Leeds! you had your big match yesterday and came up short, oh you tried, which is afterall what you have all said you would be happy with, so move on now im sure it will be back to normal next week and you can all get back to moaning about your under par S.L team

The fourth best defensive record in the league. I guess that means that 11 teams can't tackle this season.

shhhhh Don't burst Jake's bubble yet

I think he means we weren't at our best yesterday and he's correct in his statement that we will need to play better to beat Castleford, who beat an in-form Wakefield away from home today (albeit with loads of penalties).

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No personal insults please

St. Helens v Wigan Warriors
Wigan Warriors v Warrington Wolves
Castleford Tigers v Wigan Warriors
Wigan Warriors v Hull FC
Huddersfield Giants v Wigan Warriors

Castleford Tigers v Hull Kingston Rovers
Hull Kingston Rovers v St. Helens
Salford City Reds v Hull Kingston Rovers
Hull Kingston Rovers v Warrington Wolves
Wakefield Wildcats v Hull Kingston Rovers

Looking at the remaining fixtures, id say we should be able to match what Wigan do at least in terms of points so it looks as though 4th spot should be pretty secure. You can never be to certain though.

What about Castleford?? If they beat Rovers this week, and its a 50/50 game for me, they are only 1 point behind.

A win this week however (and a loss for Wigan at Saints) should see fourth all but secured.

In view of last season performance at the Jungle i would imagine Justin has targetted this one.

The reason I didn't mention Castleford was because at the time they hadnt played.
The point is still valid if we win 2 games Cas/Wigan need to win 4.

I would be delighted with a 4th place finish. Everyone else?

No mate, only us. Otherwise the playoffs will be too complicated.

In all honesty, a play off place will do for me, the higher the better obviously, but just to be there will be enough.

Sometimes, the easiest jokes are the best.