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| Wat are people's predictions for this match, TBH id be happy if we lose but a respectible one, so our lads heads dont go down then 3 hard teams out of the way we can look up from there.
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| A close game but with home advantage they are the favourites for me. If they are still missing Graham and Cayless I would be tempted to put a fiver on Rovers but with Long and Pryce available along with Gidley they are a tough team to beat.
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| Yeah true! I aint realy looking forward to this match its one of them ones where if we can keep them out for the first 20 min we have a chance, but let them over early then there will just turn the heat on. And in recent matches we have played them there we have been hammerd.
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| A walkover for Saints.
HKR are about as poor as it gets.
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| Quote ="Stirlingshire Saint"A walkover for Saints.
HKR are about as poor as it gets.'"
Oh dear, still sulking after my comments regarding your players performance at the world cup I see...
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Saints missing Cayless and Graham.
We'll have an advantage in terms of size and a [isignificant[/i advantage in terms of speed.
Gotta try and stop them offloading and kick early in the tackle count cos they don't pose the threat as individuals from long range.
Take our "A game" defence and get some field position and we've got a chance IMO...
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Saints missing Cayless and Graham.
We'll have an advantage in terms of size and a [isignificant[/i advantage in terms of speed.
Gotta try and stop them offloading and kick early in the tackle count cos they don't pose the threat as individuals from long range.
Take our "A game" defence and get some field position and we've got a chance IMO...
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| Warington had the beating of them, Rovers are a better side than wolves,Rovers have beaten Saints before. The team should not go into any game thinking about loosing, given the odd 50/50 call we should have beaten Leeds. All that said it would be a great win for Rovers & I would not put money on the result either way. Im just dissapointed I cant get there on Friday.
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| I fancy Saints by plenty, they played some great rugby at times against Hudds and if the weather stays dry for them they will be tough to stop.
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| I reckon the key position will be at Hooker. If their 2 play anywhere near the best then I can't see you guys getting anything
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| Quote ="General Zod."www.sthelensreporter.co.uk/st-helens-rl-news/Graham-and-Cayless-ruled-out.5011455.jp
Saints missing Cayless and Graham.
We'll have an advantage in terms of size and a [isignificant[/i advantage in terms of speed.
Gotta try and stop them offloading and kick early in the tackle count cos they don't pose the threat as individuals from long range.
Take our "A game" defence and get some field position and we've got a chance IMO...'"
Your attack will have to be very good. Our defence is outstanding at the minute.
The injuries are a concern though, although I'd expect most of them to play. Apparently Flannery is out for 2 weeks, which leaves us another man down.
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| Quote ="LiamFowler"Wat are people's predictions for this match, TBH id be happy if we lose but a respectible one, so our lads heads dont go down then 3 hard teams out of the way we can look up from there.'"
Well to be honest before the season if you offered us a point from the first two games i'd of snapped your hands off, after watching us perform, we should have 2 maybe 3 points.
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| Quote ="Frozen Landscape"Well to be honest before the season if you offered us a point from the first two games i'd of snapped your hands off, after watching us perform, we should have 2 maybe 3 points.'"
1 point from 5 games sounds less impressive, guess we'll have to see!
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"1 point from 5 games sounds less impressive, guess we'll have to see!
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| Quote ="Stirlingshire Saint"A walkover for Saints.
HKR are about as poor as it gets.'"
t w a t sounds about right.
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| Quote ="General Zod."We'll have an advantage in terms of size and a [isignificant[/i advantage in terms of speed.'"
Stop it, you're too much.
Quote ="General Zod."Gotta try and stop them offloading and kick early in the tackle count cos they don't pose the threat as individuals from long range.'"
Saints dont pose a threat from long range ? Are you supposed to be taken seriously ?
Quote ="General Zod."Take our "A game" defence and get some field position and we've got a chance IMO...'"
If HKR win at Saints, I will personally bare my backside on the town hall steps in Hull.
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| Quote ="Stirlingshire Saint"Stop it, you're too much. '"
So you don't agree we are a faster side? - What Saints players in particular do you think are faster than their opposite numbers on the Rovers team? (please be specific).
Quote ="Stirlingshire Saint"Saints dont pose a threat from long range? Are you supposed to be taken seriously ? '"
As a team yes, but not as individuals so stop engineering my point to be something it wasn't.
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| Quote ="Stirlingshire Saint"A walkover for Saints.
HKR are about as poor as it gets.'"
Look at my signature what does that remind you of.
Aww yes your a troll too.
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| Back on thread.
I have Saints to beat you in my Patent bet....but would be in no way suprised (or that unhappy) if you turn them over.
BTW....what is going on with your first 3 fixtures???? Bradford, Leeds and now Stains
Knowing your luck at the moment, massive scrap against saints, with 6 of your players banned for 2 games and 2 home bankers v the welsh and wakey get bu99ered as well.
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| Which pubs are you going in. I wiil adjust my plans as necessary.
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| Quote ="General Zod."So you don't agree we are a faster side? - What Saints players in particular do you think are faster than their opposite numbers on the Rovers team? (please be specific).'"
Leon Pryce is a country mile faster than Paul Cooke, Roby is 2 country miles faster than fisher,
Quote As a team yes, but not as individuals so stop engineering my point to be something it wasn't.'"
Pryce, Gardner, Roby, Long dont pose a threat from long range?
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Leon Pryce is a country mile faster than Paul Cooke'"
100% correct. But seen as though neither are playing, your statement is pointless.
Quote ="SmokeyTA"Roby is 2 country miles faster than fisher'"
No he isn't. But whilst we're talking hookers, Fitzhenry is way faster than ANY Saints player and by some distance.
Quote ="SmokeyTA"Pryce'"
See above.
Quote ="SmokeyTA"Gardner'"
Not at all. I'd back Fox, Fitzhenry & Cockayne to catch him over 100m with a 15m handicap quite easily.
Quote ="SmokeyTA"Roby'"
Couldn't really say cos I haven't seen his long range speed being tested.
Quote ="SmokeyTA"Long dont pose a threat from long range?'"
Not in the slightest. His break against Aus in the 2006 tri-nations sydney game proved that when he was caught by Hindmarsh.
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| Quote ="General Zod."So you don't agree we are a faster side? - What Saints players in particular do you think are faster than their opposite numbers on the Rovers team? (please be specific).'"
I don't take the point that HKR are quicker than Saints at all. If anything, Saints are a quicker side right now than before due to Gilmour playing in the centres.
Quote ="General Zod."As a team yes, but not as individuals so stop engineering my point to be something it wasn't.'"
This is where you go wrong. Saints don't play as individuals. They very rarely look to score from deep anymore as they don't need to. What you will get from Saints is strong running, strong defence and a deep kicking game. So far we have beat Warrington (who are stronger in both the pack and the backs than HKR) and won handsomely at Huddersfield, who are both traditionally a harder game for us and also a stronger side than you. Hull KR will not have the defence, the patience or the talent to beat us at home. Winning against the best sides requires firstly patience, the ability to understand that a game lasts a longtime. Saints have this in abundance, they have not lost a league game since April last year and their only loss was at OT against Leeds.
I cant see past a comfortable 12 + points win for us against a side such as HKR.
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| Quote ="Stirlingshire Saint":2nyura9nI don't take the point that HKR are quicker than Saints at all. If anything, Saints are a quicker side right now than before due to Gilmour playing in the centres.'"
Fair points.
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| Quote ="General Zod."100% correct. But seen as though neither are playing, your statement is pointless.'"
they are saints and kr players respectively arent they?
Quote No he isn't. But whilst we're talking hookers, Fitzhenry is way faster than ANY Saints player and by some distance.'"
yes, but Fitzhenry is a very average winger, and an even more average hooker, you could put Dwain Chambers there and call him a hooker, but it wont make him one
Quote See above.'"
see above
Quote Not at all. I'd back Fox, Fitzhenry & Cockayne to catch him over 100m with a 15m handicap quite easily.'"
a hundred metre race isnt the same though is it. Maybe as a team in 100 metre races HKR would win, but thats not what is happening, Saints are a very skillful side, HKR are a very average side, bloody hell Leeds scored a comparatively long range try started by Ryan Bailey last week, which just goes to show, you can have the fastest players in all the world, if they are weak and tired and too lazy to get low on the big man, they will be beaten by quality players,
Quote Couldn't really say cos I haven't seen his long range speed being tested.'"
doesnt surprise me, you obviously havent seen much RL before
Quote Not in the slightest. His break against Aus in the 2006 tri-nations sydney game proved that when he was caught by Hindmarsh.'" and?
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