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| Unfortunate outcome today.
If you were there I would like to hear your opinion of the team today, especially the new signings.
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| Dixon - Poor, looked far better pre-season but struggled under the high ball today.
Sio - Excellent, despite seeing little ball, looks a great prospect
Goulding - OK.
Mantellato - Decent debut, 100% with the boot, but most were fairly easy.
Campese - Great debut, controlled much of the game when Rovers had the ball, faded in the last 20 due to lack of match fitness.
Kelly - Brilliant debut, the kid got MOTM and should have had a hat-trick. Unlike most of his teammates, the kid knows how to tackle as well.
Allgood - solid debut, good try.
Burke - Great pass for Allgood's try, looks a decent player.
McCarthy went ok
Donaldson came off the bench and tackled well, looks a bit lightweight.
Blair, came off the bench and looks 10kg overweight.
All were let down by what appears to be a total lack of training on how the defend as a team, our line speed was shocking, I lost count of the missed tackles, and Welham can just go and fook off to Halifax permanently right now. He cost us 18 points on his own today. In fact, he jumped so far out of the line that he had to reach behind himself for his 70m interception try. Worst centre in SL by a country mile.
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| I thought everyone looked ok standouts was Kelly and campese i think if we keep them fit we will win more than we will lose, a combination of fitness defence and match officials lost us the game today we look very expansive and scored some real good trys a lot to be optimistic about
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| That's a pretty good summing up apart from your attack on Welham. It wasn't scathing enough! We put all that effort into buying a new back line and still pick that nuggit. When his name was announced I put my head in my hands. That has to be his first and last game of the season. Can't see Halifax wanting him to be honest.
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| In attack they looked good & will improve, defence by both sides was poor Leeds pushed off tackles far to easy for me but once they learn to trust each other it should improve (if they dont we will have to rely on out scoring the opposition) Out wide Welham was left short quiet a few times, We simply got the numbers wrong & he had to shoot out to try & stop the attack. I am happy with the side but they are on a steep learning curve & will need to improve quickly. Leeds are what you expect, well drilled, good at doing the simple things well & at pace.
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| A 30 -16 lead would have been enough to see off most other teams, so I'm not worried about one loss.
When we get it right somebody will get a real seeing to.
The defence needs to improve massively , so bye bye welham.
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| Leeds second phase really killed us in that second half but for me was 100% improvement on last year and was enjoyable to watch. Just need to tighten the left flank in defence and we will make the top 8
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| Does any body know why wellam( spelling) was playing I listened on radio and he was hopeless
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| This game has proved to me that Cockayne should be full back. Dixon is a luxury that is hard to place in the team. The back line picks itself barring Welham!!! To say he was gash is being kind. Campese was playing in his dinner suite the first half and was very impressive, tho his tackling needs sharpening up (too many one on one brush offs). Kelly for me needs to run the ball a bit more, he'd frighten the life out of teams if he did. But great debut non the less. Keal had a busy game which was good to see. Allgood and Walker will be devastating props (both good ball handlers). Burke was wrapped up a lot today, seemed Leeds thought he was one prop to watch today. Missed Wayman today.
If Chester picks Welham next week after that, I'd be amazed. Blair to for me.
Apart from the result. I've more optimism this season than I've had for a long time. Wakefield game a must win though now.
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| Dixon at FB is tragic. Too weak and a terrible tackler to offer any kind of last line of defence which is although less valued nowadays, still needed in some shape or form but he just has 0! Basically a try if a player breaks our line! Charlie or try mantellato and stick Dixon on the wing where he proved he was 10000x better at the Derby friendly! Standouts today for me where kelly, campese, Sio, Blair, allgood and even Donaldson who I thought played great! Goulding did well aswell imo
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| Looks like we've had an outstanding off season with new signings just can we keep our best players long enough to build on the squad and stop the constant high turn-over of players each year - no from me! Also Kelly will have multiple nrl offers by the end of his stay with us if he carries on the way he's started and granted we don't sell him!!!
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| Overall, fairly pleased. We struggled with 3 props all game with bailey and weyman in we would of been a lot tighter round the middle stopping Leeds quick ptb's which eventually killed us. Although our halves played well, I think we was missing some game management especially at 30-16 up. We should of played a lot smarter, built pressure and forced repeat sets or made Leeds travel 90 metres. They got on a roll and we couldn't stop it. I can barely recall a kick finding touch and us taking the sting out of the game by packing down slowly etc, we just got over excited at times when control was needed.
Encouraged though, and a couple of decisions went our way or Dixon scored instead of dropping it on that break then we would of won, of which nobody could of argued was not fair. The challenge now is to maintain intensity, and tackle!
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| I didn't see the game but I have seen enough of Dixon at London to know that he cannot be full back in a team full of adults because he cannot tackle anyone bigger than Rob Burrow. So move Dixon to the wing, where the cover defence has a chance of helping him more than at full back, and bring Mantellato to full back.
Blair is basically a centre, and should replace Welham there.
Lack of fitness is the coach's fault. Hopefully that aspect will improve over the coming weeks, along with the line defence discipline.
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| yeah thanks for the input Jean. I'm sure CC will take note
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| Great effort today plenty of our players thanking us for our great support on twitter.Reasonably simple solution next week,charlie to fullback,blair to centre, welham to halifax if they'll have him.Dixon while promising going forward,couldnt tackle a sunday dinner but all in all lots of positives.
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| Better game management, we would have won.
I thought Dixon looked alright at full back, he brought down two Leeds players one on on one, dropped two high kicks, got lucky with one that Mantellato (I think) cleaned up and re took the other at full stretch. Don't get me wrong, he's not good defensively (and I've posted my views on one on ones with full backs many times) but going forward, he chimed into the line on both sides very well and looked threatening.
Sio looks a real signing, quick, strong, confident. Will go well.
Mantellato, kicking machine and very willing to do a lot of work.
Goulding. Wasn't convinced at all about this signing but made some very good runs out of defence and was always looking for Sio, that right side will be OK, also tight in defence.
Campese. Quality. Ran the game, plays within himself and brings the team together,if, and it's a big if, we can keep him fit then he can take us places. Intelligent. Can't remember the last time I thought that about a half back at Rovers, probably not since The Ginger Messiah.
Kelly. Everyone's going to love this bloke. Had to do far too much in defence in the first half and ran out of steam but sniping and looking all the time, very quick of thought.
Allgood. Great drives, made metres all afternoon, looks a quality acquisition.
Burke. Solid, made some hard yards out of the twenty.
McCarthy, not sure he's more that a beard at this point.
Donaldson. Generally good, didn't stand out but didn't look out of place.
Overall I was pleased, despite losing a game we should have won, we got over excited at times when a steady kick that found the floor would have been better.
More entertained and enthused for a long time and the try that came from a quick PTB, Kelly's great pass, Goulding's super shift of the ball, Sio's twice bouncing off of Burrow was the best try we've scored for a long time.
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| Looked good today and I feel much more optimistic about our chances this season than I did after last season's opener against Leeds. We will improve and gel even better in the coming weeks and we now have some nous in attack and some good props.
However, some of our familiar frailties are still there, namely our fringe defence (particular left flank), our line speed in defence, our inability to play with full 80 minute intensity and our match fitness.
Kelly, Campese, Allgood, Walker and Blair played well.
Goulding, Cockayne, Donaldson, Sio, Burke, Carlile, Green and possibly Mantellato (awkward Runner, but good Kicker) were all OK.
The rest were below par, especially Welham. Dixon started like a drain, but got better in the second half and made 2 try saving wrap tackles in the last 10 minutes. Macarthy - he's looked less than impressive in 2 successive games now and needs to step it up.
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| Considering the whole team has been thrown together over the close season I thought they performed better than most would have imagined. When the lad lost the ball when going over I breathed a massive sigh of relief, that would have been game over for me. Our fitness told in the last 20 particularly, and overall we did enough to justify the 2 points, though on another day we might have struggled to claw back two big deficits. Worth £23 of anybody's money.
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| I agree, I expected a humping and we were in the game until the seventy seventh minute.
If we'd played with a little more intelligence, we'd have won.
McGuire had his usual good game against us and the next time I see him in Rothwell Morrison's I'm going to kick his and then run away like a cowardly custard because I'm more than fed up with it now.
Overall, it was a an entertaining game to attend and we ain't had a whole lot of that over in east Hull for the last few seasons.
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| Interchange killed us. We had 1 prop & they had 3. Their constant offloading was designed to take advantage of this & grind us down & it told big style in the last 20 mins.
We could / should've been far enough ahead to defend this but the contributions of Thaler & Welham had crucially kept them in touch.
Ah well, watching this game 12 months ago was depressing, but not today. Cracking game, great atmosphere, only disappointed by the result.
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| Watching the highlights you seem to be great in attack and poor in defence, hasn't this been the problem for a few years now?
Dixon should be no wear no FB, he makes Eden look great defensively, he is poor under the high ball and his one on one defence is awful, even on the highlights he should have done better for about 3 trys.
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| new team same old defence. 64 yes 64 missed tackles
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| Quote ="Dave K."Watching the highlights you seem to be great in attack and poor in defence, hasn't this been the problem for a few years now?
Dixon should be no wear no FB, he makes Eden look great defensively, he is poor under the high ball and his one on one defence is awful, even on the highlights he should have done better for about 3 trys.'"
Chester has made himself accountable for defence aswell so I'm sure they're in for a b*llocking. Very ironic that the song sung "open your eyes" as McGuire went over for his second via the easiest-to-spot crossing in the entire world. Not blaming the officials but they made some awful decisions that lead to about 3 tries!
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| I don't think Dixon was as bad as some are making out he missed a couple of tackles but who didn't he was left exposed when certain players jumped out of the line he also did a couple of cracking one on one tackles overall I was very impressed with the display considering I feared the worst when weyman and Bailey didn't make it we actually looked like we could go the length of the field to score for the first time in about 5 years kelly looked great so did campese and Burke looks quality
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