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| Would any of the 'young uns' keep there place after Swinton? If so who would you omit from the team to keep them???
I'd Keep Milton and lose Horne. I'd Keep Oakes and Lose Shaw if Moss is fit. Probably give Clavering a chance instead of Cator and rotate them game on game when we have injuries to forwards.
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| Quote ="TheRealist"Would any of the 'young uns' keep there place after Swinton? If so who would you omit from the team to keep them???
I'd Keep Milton and lose Horne. I'd Keep Oakes and Lose Shaw if Moss is fit. Probably give Clavering a chance instead of Cator and rotate them game on game when we have injuries to forwards.
Thoughts????'"
Maybe not in the next three games, but surely in your position you should be playing a couple of youngsters either game, there is no way you won't win the league and you would still win nearly all of your games if you did this and it will benefit you in the long term.
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| The younger fringe first teamers can help with our squad rotation and covering injuries, certainly.
The opportunities should be where there is most need to rest players who are knackered or who are carrying knocks. Lunt and Scruton have played lots of minutes, and it'd be good to see Jubb or Moran on the bench at some point.
I'm nervous about becoming complacent and thinking about the long-term though, when we have such an important short-term job to do. And that'll always be the case at first team level, which should be about results.
I can sort of see the point of starting to look beyond the older players - Horne, Hodgson and Cockayne, but Ryan Shaw is only 24. Fair enough, if you think Oakes is better, but I'd not be sacrificing players who have potentially got another 8 or 10 years in them to 'give youth a chance'.
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| The aim of any young fringe player should be to fit into a teams set up without disrupting the established "game plan"
It would seem those who played yesterday did exactly that, thus showing Sheens that when called upon they are ready and able.
As for replacing the "older" players already wearing the jersey, you have to be 100% certain that they are going to do a better job over a longer period.
Also does their performance's yesterday justify Sheens wisdom in allowing them to play A team rugby for Saints ?
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| Surely the most important thing is getting back to SL, be good to have you back, especially if we can get rid of Wakefield!
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| 9 games into his tenure with the only goal being promotion I think things are going well.
He's getting the younger players opportunities even though the current RL set up doesn't provide them easily. They will get chances under Sheens if they are good enough. His track record supports that.
On a different note anyone hear the interview with Gary Hetherington on Humberside yesterday. That guy talks as if he is the RL. He also talks a lot of rubbish.
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm":m1u9r0bj9 games into his tenure with the only goal being promotion I think things are going well.
He's getting the younger players opportunities even though the current RL set up doesn't provide them easily. They will get chances under Sheens if they are good enough. His track record supports that.
=#FF0000:m1u9r0bjOn a different note anyone hear the interview with Gary Hetherington on Humberside yesterday. That guy talks as if he is the RL. He also talks a lot of rubbish.'" :m1u9r0bj =#000000I have noticed over the years that he seems to have to much influence on the game. A lot more than one club chairman should have.
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| Quote ="Beverley red"=#000000I have noticed over the years that he seems to have to much influence on the game. A lot more than one club chairman should have.
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He's got the RFL in his pocket, no idea how or why?
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| Hetherington is an arrogant, old fashioned chairman where his way is the only way. For the modern game, he comes over as retro thinking, parsimonious and lacking vision.
Regarding the younger players.
I would play any of them if they are good enough. Oakes certainly oozes class and skill beyond his years and is ready now for an extended run at the expense of Shaw. Johnson merits being a regular starter and shows a skill set, workrate and aggression I haven't seen thus far from Kavanagh. Take a bow Robbie Mulhern as one of the most improved players of the season. Docker-Clay is an astute signing and with nurturing will be a future star like Heffernan. Abdull is impressive but I'm sick already of seeing his dummies and selfish attempts to take on the line when the pass out wide on the overlap is clearly the best option. I reckon he spurned another half a dozen opportunities yesterday again.
The team has an ideal mix of experience, youth, depth and skill at the moment apart from a real firecracker back rower to replace Horne.
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| Quote ="Pickering Red"Hetherington is an arrogant, old fashioned chairman where his way is the only way. For the modern game, he comes over as retro thinking, parsimonious and lacking'"
He's a lot like Lindsay was at Wigan from what I have read. We shall see how we move forward, we need KR back in SL
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| Quote ="PCollinson1990"He's a lot like Lindsay was at Wigan from what I have read. We shall see how we move forward, =#40FF00we need KR back in SL'"
Thats just what Bradford and London said,in their first season back in Champ.
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| Quote ="atomic"Thats just what Bradford and London said,in their first season back in Champ.'"
What? That Hetherington was a lot like Lindsay? I didn't realise people had thought that for so long.
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| Quote ="atomic"Thats just what Bradford and London said,in their first season back in Champ.'"
Just to clarify, you're quoting a Hull fan.
What SL needs, IMO, is transparency and consistency in how it is run. As I'm asking for the moon on a stick, let's chuck in fairness and simplicity too.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Just to clarify, you're quoting a Hull fan.
What SL needs, IMO, is transparency and consistency in how it is run. As I'm asking for the moon on a stick, let's chuck in fairness and simplicity too.'"
Let's really ask for the moon on a stick, AND sprinkled in star ⭐️ dust, and request professionalism as well!
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| Don't forget equality, equality's a good one !!!!
But what did the Romans really do for us ?
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| Quote ="BiltonRobin"Don't forget equality, equality's a good one !!!!
But what did the Romans really do for us ?'"
Are we the Rugby Football League or Rugby League Football? (can I have two flat stones and a packet of gravel and some wolf nipple chips too)
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| Quote ="PCollinson1990"Are we the Rugby Football League or Rugby League Football? (can I have two flat stones and a packet of gravel and some wolf nipple chips too)'"
Is that Albert Kelly over there ?
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| Quote ="BiltonRobin"Is that Albert Kelly over there ?
SPLITTER !!'"
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| Back on topic, Will Jubb has been promised a game on Easter Monday at Toulouse. Depending on injuries there could be more younger players getting a game in France.
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| Quote ="His Bobness"Back on topic, Will Jubb has been promised a game on Easter Monday at Toulouse. Depending on injuries there could be more younger players getting a game in France.'"
Wouldn't underestimate Toulouse on their own patch, also remember the blazers want them in SL, be interesting to see who the referee is.
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| Quote ="PCollinson1990"Wouldn't underestimate Toulouse on their own patch, also remember the blazers want them in SL, be interesting to see who the referee is.'"
Yeh, the "blazers" want them in SL that much they made them start from L1 this time round, and last time round in 2009 refused them a license & dumped them in the Championship for three seasons.
Insinuating there's some sort of pro-Toulouse conspiracy, give your head a wobble.
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| Quote ="DGM"Yeh, the "blazers" want them in SL that much they made them start from L1 this time round, and last time round in 2009 refused them a license & dumped them in the Championship for three seasons.
Insinuating there's some sort of pro-Toulouse conspiracy, give your head a wobble.'"
My mistake, getting them mixed up with Toronto.
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| Quote ="His Bobness"Back on topic, Will Jubb has been promised a game on Easter Monday at Toulouse. Depending on injuries there could be more younger players getting a game in France.'"
Does utilising the squad players on Monday indicate Sheens intension to play our strongest team at Leigh next Saturday ?
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| Quote ="BiltonRobin"Does utilising the squad players on Monday indicate Sheens intension to play our strongest team at Leigh next Saturday ?'"
The financial reward of beating Leigh and getting another SL tie would be huge if televised. Imagine if it ended up eventually being FC, that would be brilliant!
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| Quote ="BiltonRobin"Does utilising the squad players on Monday indicate Sheens intension to play our strongest team at Leigh next Saturday ?'"
It makes sense to rotate the squad for the Monday game, it would be a tough game in a normal week but over Easter and a CC game the following Saturday makes it extra tough.
No prizes for winning every game so might as well try out the young uns.
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