5th

So you don't think we should be beating these teams at home?

Pugwash, I reckon Saints have recruited strongly and, having bloodied so many youngsters last season, will push Wigan and Warrington and pip them by the odd point for the minor-premiership. I don't think they will win the play-off - I reckon Smithy will make sure Warrington don't run out of steam and are my favourites to pick up that trophy.
I also think Catalans will improve again with Pryce adding another ingredient. Leeds will be solid but will have a similar season like last year with an aging squad.

Here's my prediction:

1. St Helens
2. Wigan
3. Warrington
4. Catalan
5. Leeds
6. Hull KR
7. Hull FC
8. Huddersfield
9. London
10. Bradford
11. Wakefield
12. Castleford
13. Salford
14. Widnes

I agree with you about the Giants, imo they are in transition like the other teams I position from 6th to 11th. I cannot see any of these teams breaking into the upper top-5 tier next season. With this in mind my 6-11 is much more of a stab in the dark and I hope Rovers can top this middle tier.

I think London and Wakefield will do far better than many expect but will be squeezed out of a very tight dog fight for 8th place. I think Castleford will flatter to deceive and fall away, whilst my bottom 2 will struggle from day one.

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We'll win/lose games which we probably shouldn't, but overall I hope we're more consistent and close the gap to the teams above us. I don't think we'll surge up the table but if things go our away 4-6th isn't outta' the question.

The rest - top 3 will be battling it out between themselves again, think Graham will be a massive loss to Saints, but they'll still be better than most. Hudds form dropped alarmingly but I still see them in that group above us. Leeds will be there or thereabouts again. Cats, who knows - but there's no reason why they won't kick on again. Then ourselves and Hull, doubt there will be too much separating us. Cas/Bradford/Salford/Quins - no idea. Just guessed.

Not at all, they've got just as much right to say they should be beating us as we have of beating them. I hope we beat them but I don't go around expecting to as if the players go and do that we would get hammered

yes but were the supporters not the players so whats your point i and by the how much did you wager last night