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| What a surprise eh, could see it coming as soon as i read his letter
Yes some players will give 100% like they always do and most want to be there, but i know for a fact some players have paid and some have not so thats going to effect the team for a start ,
Quite a few of the players have to get special time of work and re arrange shifts etc to play most weekends so if they are not getting paid i bet they really feel like giving 100% would you
All this has been going on for a few weeks hence the results on the pitch
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| Quote ="kevbanham"sounds about rite'"
Heard they hadnt been paid from the gateshead thrashing
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| Quote ="kevbanham"John chadwick in charge? Nice guy so lets see what he comes up with'"
If you think he is your saviour don't hold your breath. He was one of four directors at Oldham, who in a few seasons managed to sell Watersheddings from under us for a pittance and bankrupt us. Only now 13 years on are we beginning to lay down some firm foundations again. Also after the game on Sunday this man had the nerve to slag off our new ground, we accept it is far from perfect, but it just shows the type of person he is that he would want to stick the knife in after his involvement.
Would you trust this man with the future of your club - I wouldn't trust him to clean the toilets at the club.
I do hope Blackpool can sort it out and remain a competitive team in the division. Unfortunately it shows that the Sugar Daddy template isn't sustainable as they get tired of throwing their money away eventually. We sufferred the same issue at Oldham last year.
Good luck sorting it lads, but supporter involvement may be preferable to Chadwick.
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| Think Chadwick was doing a solid job until Hope rocked up- slow affordable progress. Although it was good fun for half a season, this short period of indulging Hope's ego has left the club in a very precarious position. I also seem to remember that last years board of directors resisted Hope's advances last season, but felt they had no choice for this season- may be they were worried it may all end up like this.
Even if a few of the luxury players were off-loaded, I get the feeling a lot of the 'squad' players had their wages bumped up by Hope compared to what they were previously on. The consolation that can be taken from the situation is the Leeds game- a second string was put out there, and that team would be competitive in Champ 1.
Can see Hemmingway & Ballard going soon as would imagine they are on big wages & can get a club elsewhere pretty easily. I would say that Hobson would go as well, but he is facing a long suspension, so no other club will want him in the short term. Would like to keep hold of Ainscough as he is awesome, but again can imagine a number of clubs will be after him and we won't be able to afford his wages. No idea what we will do with Marsh & Best as we have yet to see much of them this year, but obviously have been paying them. Halliwell can go tomorrow as far as i'm concerned. Hope we can keep Holland on as I can't imagine that he was paid much at Wigan before he came across permanently.
Perhaps the Wigan dual-reg players will stay on which will provide a strong backbone to the team during the re-shuffle of players that will happen between now and the end of the season. I would imagine MC is leaving as isn't he now full-time and obviously the club will not be able to afford to keep him in a job after the end of the season.
Considering the above, some of the rest may stay on for the rest of the season as there is still a good chance we can stay in the play-offs and perhaps even get promotion.
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| Quote ="Roughyeds Return"If you think he is your saviour don't hold your breath. He was one of four directors at Oldham, who in a few seasons managed to sell Watersheddings from under us for a pittance and bankrupt us. Only now 13 years on are we beginning to lay down some firm foundations again. Also after the game on Sunday this man had the nerve to slag off our new ground, we accept it is far from perfect, but it just shows the type of person he is that he would want to stick the knife in after his involvement.
Would you trust this man with the future of your club - I wouldn't trust him to clean the toilets at the club.
I do hope Blackpool can sort it out and remain a competitive team in the division. Unfortunately it shows that the Sugar Daddy template isn't sustainable as they get tired of throwing their money away eventually. We sufferred the same issue at Oldham last year.
Good luck sorting it lads, but supporter involvement may be preferable to Chadwick.'"
Thanks for your support. Think chadwick is short term but good of him to step up at this time no matter whats happened in the past. I was at the game on sunday and you have the beginings of a good set up at oldham and looked like the support to back it up. Its yours and you have something to build on, best of luck.
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| There's one thing for sure, Chadders is no sugar daddy and will only spend what's affordable. No doubt those that were only in it for the money will move on, but we'll probably be in a better long term position, certainly more stable and sustainable.
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| Quote ="Seagull"There's one thing for sure, Chadders is no sugar daddy and will only spend what's affordable. No doubt those that were only in it for the money will move on, but we'll probably be in a better long term position, certainly more stable and sustainable.'"
cant say much more but i think wheels are in progress with regards new investors/management. One things for sure supporters needs to be involved in future. Least then we will know whats going on before this ever happens again like it keeps happening
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| Good to hear that things may already be happening but people coming in must be realistic in their aspirations.
I always worry when I see the word "investors" as any investor usually expects to the see a return on their investment.
There is no return in RL, you just keep paying out!
As long as people realise this when they go in it's fine, but if they expect a monetary return they are dreaming
If the return is he satisfaction of watching the club grow that's fine, but anything else doesn't happen in the real world.
Hopefully we can keep the nucleus of the squad together and still have a half decent pop at the playoffs, but it's obvious the big money signings won't be hanging around.
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| If this is true, I can now elaborate of some of the shady happening which have "allegedly" been going on. I have it on good authority that players have not been getting paid. Neither have staff.
Ron Carr has aparently resigned on health grounds, but alegedly, in personal phone calls revaeled he did so as he was being asked to do things with club finances he simply couldnt do.
The money from the Leeds game was "allegedly" never put in the Panthers bank account.
I would allege that these problems come from the same source, a man who has previously managed to bankrupt Leigh, and is possibly the dodgiest businessman i have ever had the misfortune to hear about in our sport.
I hope someone comes in with a sounds business model for the club and continues the good work that the likes of Nick Settle are undertaking in the area.
As for Mr Hope, i think the phrase is "C U Next Tuesday"
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| Quote ="gnidir"If this is true, I can now elaborate of some of the shady happening which have "allegedly" been going on. I have it on good authority that players have not been getting paid. Neither have staff.
Ron Carr has aparently resigned on health grounds, but alegedly, in personal phone calls revaeled he did so as he was being asked to do things with club finances he simply couldnt do.
The money from the Leeds game was "allegedly" never put in the Panthers bank account.
I would allege that these problems come from the same source, a man who has previously managed to bankrupt Leigh, and is possibly the dodgiest businessman i have ever had the misfortune to hear about in our sport.
I hope someone comes in with a sounds business model for the club and continues the good work that the likes of Nick Settle are undertaking in the area.
As for Mr Hope, i think the phrase is "C U Next Tuesday"'"
Thats similar to what i was told apart from the ron carr part. Heard maybe something in the pipeline so guess we will have to wait and see. Lots of people have done good work so lets hope it not been for nothing.
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| From the Gazette website today:
[urlhttp://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/sports-news/Panthers-plea-as-chief-suffers.6353580.jp[/url
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| The best way forward at this level is to do what we are doing at Doncaster.
No play=No pay and pay only what you can afford.
Ok we are still third bottom, but at the beginning of the season we had nothing but we have steadily improved as the weeks have passed and are coming along nicely.
We have an improving team and a little bit of cash in the bank, i firmly believe that this is the way to go for the future of semi pro RL.
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| Couldn't agree with you more Rupert, the sooner clubs adopt that mentality across the board the better the game will be for everyone.
Sadly though, there are always one or two dreamers who choose to ignore common sense and then everyone else is struggling to compete.
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| Quote ="rupert bear"The best way forward at this level is to do what we are doing at Doncaster.
No play=No pay and pay only what you can afford.
Ok we are still third bottom, but at the beginning of the season we had nothing but we have steadily improved as the weeks have passed and are coming along nicely.
We have an improving team and a little bit of cash in the bank, i firmly believe that this is the way to go for the future of semi pro RL.'"
We had this system until the ego came along. It is actually something MC strongly believed in, he brought it in to the club when we were making steady progress but you can't operate it under a superstar system that hope wanted. Quicker we get back to it the better!
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| I hope you survive this storm. It would be a sad day for RL to lose Blackpool.
Keep the faith and build a club steadily and sustainably.
All the best from a Donny fan.
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| Quote ="markill"We had this system until the ego came along. It is actually something MC strongly believed in, he brought it in to the club when we were making steady progress but you can't operate it under a superstar system that hope wanted. Quicker we get back to it the better!'"
Bang on the nail mate, absolutely spot on.
Let's just pray the situation is recoverable and that MC and the players can see the bigger picture.
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| Quote ="rupert bear"I hope you survive this storm. It would be a sad day for RL to lose Blackpool.
Keep the faith and build a club steadily and sustainably.
All the best from a Donny fan.'"
Thanks for the support we will endevear to achieve it
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| Donny are where we were 18 months ago- this is the blueprint that all of the smaller clubs should be following (Skolars, Blackpool, Donny, Gateshead, perhaps even Swinton)- pay as you play, build a team/squad and don't pay over the odds for a 'superstar'. It is possible to run a club off 300 or so fans, but finances have to be well controlled and targets kept realistic- finishing 1 place further up the table is still progress!
Just read in Dave Parkers rumour column in The Sun that Hope has resigned on health reasons (convenient excuse regardless whether it is true or not) and the CEO has gone (Ron Carr i guess). A squad meeting was held this week and ALL THE CONTRACTED PLAYERS ARE NOW FREE AGENTS!!! The vultures will now be circling! MC is also available should something come along.
Here's something you may not know- John Chadwick is the partner of Les Dawson's widow Tracy!
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| Quote ="the_cow"Donny are where we were 18 months ago- this is the blueprint that all of the smaller clubs should be following (Skolars, Blackpool, Donny, Gateshead, perhaps even Swinton)- pay as you play, build a team/squad and don't pay over the odds for a 'superstar'. It is possible to run a club off 300 or so fans, but finances have to be well controlled and targets kept realistic- finishing 1 place further up the table is still progress!
Just read in Dave Parkers rumour column in The Sun that Hope has resigned on health reasons (convenient excuse regardless whether it is true or not) and the CEO has gone (Ron Carr i guess). A squad meeting was held this week and ALL THE CONTRACTED PLAYERS ARE NOW FREE AGENTS!!! The vultures will now be circling! MC is also available should something come along.
Here's something you may not know- John Chadwick is the partner of Les Dawson's widow Tracy!'"
Pay as you play? Thats is we have any players left come sunday !!! Guess we will find out who want to play for the club and who doesnt. As one former player quoted to me about blackpool panthers fan "best fans in the country" Lets see if the players appreciate our support and put rugby before money !!! I appreciate some of the players have family etc to support so we arent expecting a long term commitment but its a time like this we should all stick together.
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| Very few players at this level are on any sort of serious contract, so even those that were contracted aren't going to be likely to get the same money anywhere else in CC1.
If we can revert to the sort of match terms on offer last season I suspect a good number of the players will stay, as they won't get better terms anywhere else.
Those contracted on OTT money (by CC1 standards) though will undoubtedly look to get fixed up elsewhere, which isn't a surprise. Let's face it, the only reason players such as Hemingway, Ballard etc were attracted to Panthers was because of the contracted terms offered, they will soon be back in the Championship I'd have thought.
We'll just have to wait and see but I do expect we'll have a slightly different looking team on Sunday.
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| Quote ="Seagull"Very few players at this level are on any sort of serious contract, so even those that were contracted aren't going to be likely to get the same money anywhere else in CC1.
If we can revert to the sort of match terms on offer last season I suspect a good number of the players will stay, as they won't get better terms anywhere else.
Those contracted on OTT money (by CC1 standards) though will undoubtedly look to get fixed up elsewhere, which isn't a surprise. Let's face it, the only reason players such as Hemingway, Ballard etc were attracted to Panthers was because of the contracted terms offered, they will soon be back in the Championship I'd have thought.
We'll just have to wait and see but I do expect we'll have a slightly different looking team on Sunday.'"
Dont know the ins and outs so i guess it lets wait and see. Think MC has been a big influence on attracting players so maybe that should be our main concern at the moment and to keep the club afloat and running. Not long left to go in the season so lets see what we can achieve then hope the club come up with a good business plan to run the club within its means.
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| Bobby was at Leigh when we almost went to the wall years back and had to sell hilton park to survive. The man's bad news. I hope you guys sort things out, RL needs Blackpool.
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| Quote ="Great King Rat"Bobby was at Leigh when we almost went to the wall years back and had to sell hilton park to survive. The man's bad news. I hope you guys sort things out, RL needs Blackpool.'"
thanks pal
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| Good luck to you all , it`s bad news indeed.Why don`t you post info about your games on all sites ,I am sure you would get some of the rugby league family attending if their own club hasn`t got a game.It`s a good day out at Blackpool and we havn`t a home game for a month you have nothing to lose.
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