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| Quote ="Moonshine"We got bullied and beaten up that is for sure. The injuries to KK and JH took some of the organization out of us in what was a pretty clueless second half. '"
Agreed. No team with an 8 point lead inside the final quarter of a game, playing against opposition which goes down to 11 men, should end up losing.
I've read elsewhere that Kes is ok, hope Jordan Howden is too (that looks a nasty one).
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| Quote ="Wanderer"Agreed. No team with an 8 point lead inside the final quarter of a game, playing against opposition which goes down to 11 men, should end up losing.'"
Spot on, we were not professional enough when it mattered. It was hard to see who was in charge for our lot during that crucial period, they got into our heads and we blew it, another learning curve for a young coach and his team.
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| Quote ="Harworthdon"we were beaten by an pathetic excuse for a referee,,, a team of thugs,,,and our lack of ability to score tries against 11 thugs that were still on the field of play. I saw the pic of howdens head, if this is what thornton and his team of over aggressive thugs call rugby league then god help us.'"
I believe the injury to Jordan happened completely accidentally, but, thats based on being about 50 yards from the incident when it happened. I may need to watch it back to see exactly what.
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| Spoke to one of the players tonight and he was shocked at Hunslets behaviour and their tactics.
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| Quote ="Donny"I believe the injury to Jordan happened completely accidentally, but, thats based on being about 50 yards from the incident when it happened. I may need to watch it back to see exactly what.'"
From my view I agree, Jordan's injury was caused by his own bravery going in to retrieve a poor pass from the back of the scrum
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| Quote ="DonnyPlumber"From my view I agree, Jordan's injury was caused by his own bravery going in to retrieve a poor pass from the back of the scrum'"
That's how it looked to me too.
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| Hunslet came with one single agenda, to try and bully us out of playing rugby...…………………………….. and it worked.
How can you lose a game against 11 men when we looked to have the game wrapped up after twenty minutes?
Surely all that was needed was basic rugby , logic states that if you have two more players on the pitch than your opponent there will be some sizable gaps in their defence to exploit.
In my eyes its the players and not the coach that should carry the can for this defeat ,very poor decision making and poor execution.
Its ok people saying why didn't we take the two points when you are ten meters from their line with two players more 9 time out of 10 you score ……….end of.
A tough game next week and our offence needs a marked improvement , Hunslet were big and physical, so why for gods sake did we try to play through and not around them?
Fash and Douglas looked strong carrying the ball however Miloudi was awful trying to do too much everytime he received the ball.
Coventry turning over Newcastle was a big shock and given the signings they have made their chances of promotion look a distant dream unless they get their act together sharpish.
This season looks like a case of if your not at the races, then any of the teams in the top half can snatch the points from you.
We looked like we lacked ideas after losing Howden, Workington are a better side than Hunslet and also have a large pack ,we need to play smarter or face another defeat.
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| I agreee with KLD, it was poor on the pitch decision making today. We were obviously the better rugby team but got suckered in rather than doing what we can do. Things like grubbering on the second tackle when nothing is on is just daft. And whatever we think of Thornton and those familiar tactics we got so bored of here, he could foten grind out a narrow win with it and thats what happened again.
I do think the try dissalowed for double movement was an awful decision (particuarly when you compare it to the try Theo Fages was given on Friday night), but it shouldn't have mattered and it wasn't the only bad decision given all day.
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| Well we will just get more of the same at Hunslet and if Pryce has seen it, more of the same next week.
I mean physicality, not dirty tactics.
The old joke "I wasn't a very good player, but I could stop them that were" applies here.
They shut us down and we had no plan B.
We were ticking along nicely and they got rough.
I'm sure I saw their 21 throw a right hook/ uppercut at Miloudi and then spend the next 15 minutes laughing at the crowd when nothing was done.
Shocking by the officials.
He should have gone there and then.
And when he did act, we squandered the chance to run their s off by playing it down the middle..
I thought we would get at least one and probably two tries then.
But they outsmarted us.
A really unnecessary defeat.
As for 'kicks didn't matter' ... the games was won on kicks at goal.
Hunslet lapped theirs up apart from one miss and we turned ours down and ours were easy.
We would have won that game if we had kicked, it is as simple as that ... and it is not hindsight.
Also their yardage taking the ball in was making ours look feeble and gave them a lot of heart. After a poorish start by Hunslet, they sussed we were struggling and that they were the stronger side.
They turned out to be a much better side than the one we defeated at their place and Thornton has recruited well.
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| Poor game management from the players in my opinion.
Miloudi looked like a show pony trying much too hard to impress (Were his boots pink or was it my eyes?).
On that performance I cant see him featuring for Hull's first team much this year as his style of play is too off the cuff, when Super League now a days is all about structure.
When he gets the space to run at teams at times he is unplayable but more often than not he is nullified by running up his own backside to gain an extra few inches of turf.
How can teams set up offensive plays when you have a player dancing from pillar to post trying to gain an extra yard.
Play him against the lesser sides and he will have a field day, not the case against the bigger boys who get in his face and try to provoke a reaction.
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| How did Fash and Washy go?
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"How did Fash and Washy go?'"
I think Fash got MOTM and Washbrook did OK
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| Both played well, imo, and made yards in the collision, Fash got the MoM (although personally I'd have given it to Douglas)
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| Fash was given the MoM & Washbrook had a decent game also.
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| Some reflective thoughts ...
We need more of the sort of go forward we were getting from Brad Fash and Brandon Douglas, we are still a little short in forward power. Jordan Cox should help in this respect whilst we are missing Brad England and Frankie Mariano.
I accept that we lost two influential players but we have to be structured and disciplined enough to cope in such adversity - we have other players who can and need to step up.
The 'maverick' style of play attempted by one player yesterday does not appear to sit well with the rest of the team (and hopefully the coaching staff). If anything it seems to make the opposition raise their game (I know some of it wasn't pretty).
Workington will almost certainly come to do much of the same (let's use the word physicality) and again take us out of our comfort zone.
Quite a bit for the coaching staff to work on this week IMHO.
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| The turning point was the disallowed try by Brandon Douglas. I don't think Hunslet would have come back had that been given. No sooner had it been chalked off than Hunslet scored at the other end.
We didn't look dangerous enough when we moved the ball about. For the most part, gaps weren't appearing and Hunslet had things covered.
I agree with Wanderer's comments about Brad Fash and Brandon Douglas. They made good metres on impact. I'm looking forward to seeing Jordan Cox next weekend. I hope Brad Fash plays too.
We need to be strong in the pack against Workington or else they could well repeat what they did to us at the end of last season.
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| Funny how refs can spot a double movement but not a punch ...
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| The more so think about that game the more I shake my head. For instance, didn't we lose the ball straight away after Beryl's 40/20, but fortunately they knocked on?
We were inept, not just Hakim and his stop/start bunny hopping nonsense.
If there isn't a policy on taking easy 2 pointers and drop goals etc there needs to be.
Can't leave in to individuals or the guy who happens to have the ball at the time.
It's a team game and part of that team and active during the process is the coach.
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| Looks like another gentlemanly match for Hunslet against West Wales last weekend: two sendings off (Reece Dean for Hunslet) for punching plus two sin binnings for running in.
Seems to be that rough-housing your opponents is this season’s tactic.
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| Quote ="Gerry Monside"Looks like another gentlemanly match for Hunslet against West Wales last weekend: two sendings off (Reece Dean for Hunslet) for punching plus two sin binnings for running in.
Seems to be that rough-housing your opponents is this season’s tactic.'"
Reece Dean was the one that swung a punch at Miloudi and went unpunished.
Tonks again sin-binned. Two games two sin-binnings.
Still ... two wins ...what ho.
Gary is delighted.
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| Seems ironic that Danny Nicklas will be the only 1 from the Hunslet game to pick up a ban & that was for dissent.
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| Ryan Dixon has been cleared after being put on report for the incident involving Richard Moore.
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| Quote ="Double Movement"Ryan Dixon has been cleared after being put on report for the incident involving Richard Moore.'"
Good, my impression of the incident was that Moorey was slipping (falling) has he was tackled. Not sure if thats what they found.
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