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| Quote ="Gargoyle"Yes as stated earlier, I accept there is a greater number of players from the Hull area because of the strength of the game in the Hull area compared with Donny Fact is, from what Ive seen so far the ones turning out for the reserves (who we must agree on in theory are the future of the club) are no better than the local lads who are being kept not only out of the starting line up, but not even making the bench. At least 2 of these are cracking teenage talents already playing open age and on scholarships. They are much more likely to stick with the club in my opinion than lads from outside the area (re the origin of this thread) who will get fed up with the travelling involved for little return.
From where Im standing the clubs about to go tits up again and this time may not recover.'"
Who are these two cracking teenagers who cant make the bench. did you go to the reserve game on Thursday?
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| Quote ="Gargoyle"Yes as stated earlier, I accept there is a greater number of players from the Hull area because of the strength of the game in the Hull area compared with Donny Fact is, from what Ive seen so far the ones turning out for the reserves (who we must agree on in theory are the future of the club) are no better than the local lads who are being kept not only out of the starting line up, but not even making the bench. At least 2 of these are cracking teenage talents already playing open age and on scholarships. They are much more likely to stick with the club in my opinion than lads from outside the area (re the origin of this thread) who will get fed up with the travelling involved for little return.
From where Im standing the clubs about to go tits up again and this time may not recover.'" how many of your doncaster scholarship players at 16s are good enough to go up a level? only 2 ?if good enough why are they not snapped up ?this should tell you how good your scholarship is, and most clubs bring in players from other areas ,normally around half of squad good enough if recruitment is right
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| Quote I feel that without Dave we wouldnt have a club after Craig Harrison dumped the club when it was at its highest peak for years (I would think a decent man would have kept quiet for at least 24 hours after the game). '"
How the fook did he do that then!
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| Quote ="Winger"Who are these two cracking teenagers who cant make the bench. did you go to the reserve game on Thursday?'"
Bailey and Richards. And no I didn't go on Thursday but Ive seen the other games and if it was the same York side who played at Toll Bar they were no great shakes. 4 defeats from 4 including 2 against them tells its own tale.
I would like the reserves to turn it around but from what I've seen so far it isnt going to happen.
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| Yet another 1 jumps ship today-and to 1 of your relegation rivals
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| Quote ="ABorder"Yet another 1 jumps ship today-and to 1 of your relegation rivals'"
Wouldn't be Josh--would it?
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| Quote ="DRAGONFAN"Wouldn't be Josh--would it?'"
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| Don't you just love intrigue?
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| Quote ="ABorder"Yet another 1 jumps ship today-and to 1 of your relegation rivals'"
We don't actually have any relegation rivals.
We are going down.....whoever cares to join us is their worry.
Batley and Doncaster are effectively relegated...NOW!
The rest can relax.
Sheffield and Gateshead are too good to go down.
We and Batley have to perform at better than previous for the rest of the season....it's not going to happen.
So none of it matters.....let them all go.
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Well if that is the case.....we are truly fooked....and it's the end of Donny RLFC.
We won't win another game this season
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Well if that is the case.....we are truly fooked....and it's the end of Donny RLFC.
We won't win another game this season
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| Indeed a sad day, we should just cut our losses and give up now.
Reading the Batley site they have had Karl Harrison working for free....A proven Super League and coach who has won promotion from the national leagues working for free on a very small budget.
I think my personal association with the club is now coming to an end.
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| Quote ="Stand-Offish"We don't actually have any relegation rivals.
We are going down.....whoever cares to join us is their worry.
Batley and Doncaster are effectively relegated...NOW!
The rest can relax.
Sheffield and Gateshead are too good to go down.
We and Batley have to perform at better than previous for the rest of the season....it's not going to happen.
So none of it matters.....let them all go.'"
No-one is too good to go down. And from what i've seen this season, we aren't very good anyway.
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| We've just given away 2 of our better players to teams in the same league.
Thats progressive management
Wonder who will be next to be snapped up.
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| While I get your point I don't think it been an entirely free willed diecsion to just give these (or the others to follow) players away for the hell of it or as part of what was percieved as a mangement decision, but the decisions have been made very badly at soime stage for this to happen by any means
But regardless of that it is indeed very very demoralising
Saying all that, we've had worse individual circumstances, but it keeps happening and happening and that's what get's to us the most
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| Has anyone ever had a really sick dog?
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| Quote ="Jemmo"Has anyone ever had a really sick dog?'"
Has anyone had a dead dog?
This forum is going to be buzzing tonight when folk get home from work.
I don't think folk should start falling out between themselves....but probably that's where it will end.
Two camps...the optimists and the pessimists.
How can you be optimistic?
What is the point of running a club the way we are?....the crowds will only fall and it will get worse.
If this is running a club within budget....then what will we have left entertaining to watch?
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| Quote ="Stand-Offish"Has anyone had a dead dog?
This forum is going to be buzzing tonight when folk get home from work.
I don't think folk should start falling out between themselves....but probably that's where it will end.
Two camps...the optimists and the pessimists.
How can you be optimistic?
What is the point of running a club the way we are?....the crowds will only fall and it will get worse.'"
The crowds will fall slightly but then again there will always be the die hard fans who turn up and have turned up through thin and thinner,got to agreed with Jemmo we've known far worse than this and survived to tell the tale and so we will again.So what ,we go down who gives a providing we still have a team (whoever is playing ) in Doncaster.
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| Don't think there'll be many optimists to be arguing with to be honest
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| Quote ="DonnyPlumber"The crowds will fall slightly but then again there will always be the die hard fans who turn up and have turned up through thin and thinner,got to agreed with Jemmo we've known far worse than this and survived to tell the tale and so we will again.So what ,we go down who gives a poop providing we still have a team (whoever is playing ) in Doncaster.'"
And then?
At least when we were in Div2 we had a good team.....I don't think that will be the case next year.....it will be more of the same.
Pay as you play.
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| TBH I've always thought that level should only be Pay as you Play
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| The majority of the optomist have also become disgruntled with the never ending cycle of boom and bust tho this time there has been no boom.
We were told we were spending within budget and we'd be competative both it appears are now untrue I think thats what rankles most people.
Its the same story and has been for many a year, the appointment of a new commercial manager seems a little after the horse has bolted and could also pave the way for the departure of Andreas from the club.
The club needs some decent financial investment not an advisory board, teams such as Sheffield, York, Rochdale, Batley, Oldham all manage to survive without this cycle of doom. And are almost always competative on the pitch and when not actively do something about it rather than just sit on there hands.
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| Was speaking to a bloke the other day who has been at the top with a club and he put a very good point across about all players outside of super league being on "pay as you play" terms instead of contracts,it would help the clubs out no end,granted some clubs would be paying more than others but thats how it is now.At least it would be a more level playing field as lower clubs would be able to attract lads that are not getting into other sides.
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| I agree should be Pay as you play with incentives for winning and draws, minimum pay for a loss.
It will never happen tho the clubs with money will just offer higher match payments all will get all the best players there is little loyality in sport, You cannot blame the players its a short career and im sure we'd all move jobs if someone offered us more money for the same job.
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| After all the joy of promotion, i personally feel that we should have stayed in the old division and not take the promotion.
I agree the players in our division should be on win,loss monies and not contracts.
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