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| Seems like it is getting worse, if the players are arguing and calling each other
they've totally lost it.
And what an answer from GT to weighman, the blokes a k***.
he 's in charge for FS, Do something about it you're supposed to be the Boss.
Leeds will probably be my last game until something's changed, and i would not have gone to that, had i not got my ticket before the Toronto game.
Just fed up now of all the bull/ we have been getting fed over the last 2 yrs, and not improving
one iota, these players should be better than this.
It was a good decision not to buy a season ticket this year i can please myself without
throwing any money away.
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| GT will take the flack but the player recruitment comes from higher up so the buck has to stop with CH surely ? CH is well liked (and respected) but maybe he should hold his hands up and take his share of the blame ?
The basic policy needs a re think imo with the money wasted on old men better invested in the youth. Keeping the kids will always be a problem but made easier if the future for them looks brighter. It can't do much for the younger kid's egos to see old men playing at their expense.
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| Quote ="sanjunien"GT will take the flack but the player recruitment comes from higher up so the buck has to stop with CH surely ? CH is well liked (and respected) but maybe he should hold his hands up and take his share of the blame ?
The basic policy needs a re think imo with the money wasted on old men better invested in the youth. Keeping the kids will always be a problem but made easier if the future for them looks brighter. It can't do much for the younger kid's egos to see old men playing at their expense.'"
Carl has always said that the coach has total control of player recruitment. If that's correct, then GT is the man who is responsible. What we don't know is whether he was given a fair budget or not. He may have done a good job with next to no money, or he could have done a bad job if he had as much cash as the Barrow boss.
These are issues we can only make guesses about.
What we do know is that collectively the club haven't got things right. Quite where the blame lies is more difficult to tell.
The consequence is that the longer the problem persists, the harder it becomes to dig yourself out of the hole. Fans will be less likely to buy season tickets next season, or attend matches this season, it'll become harder to sell the game to sponsors and corporate businesses, and the income streams will drop.
Whatever the playing budget is for this year, it's likely to be less for next year unless investment is found from elsewhere.
As a group, Dons fans are used to tough times but I think the one thing we want see above all else is that the club appears to be moving in the right direction. We're not... and we're all rightly concerned.
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| Carl Hall doesn't do the coaching on how to play and instil discipline.
I'll tell you now these players would look twice as good if Cookey was coaching them.
Its the younger ones who aren't coming on, Hedges has not improved or looked like
he's going too since he got here.
One exception is Crossy but that's down to his natural talent
not GT.
we can't even do the simple things like backing up for one.
All down to coaching and the instructions that are given so nothing to do with CH on the pitch.
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| Sanjunien why not put that question to him(Carl) on ITD.
Dons 11 I didn't hear the substituted player say anything about another player . With regard to the leaders on the pitch I beg to differ .
We have fans who turned up at York to support their team, they all care , I do not enjoy having to shout about the discipline .
At least GT admitted in his reply to me that we have a discipline problem . CH has not admitted that in the numerous times the question has been asked . He did say he did not condone abuse of officials .
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| Onedon , you are 100% correct CH does not do the coaching . Would you accept carl also has to take some responsibility about our current situation .
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| Yes if he was the one who appointed the coach.
SO then, also club Doncaster has too they're in charge of everything.
Everything else we don't know about ie getting players in or
who picks them to come to the club, they've always said GT has a free riegn and picks who he wants.
But that the other thing everyone is getting fed up of, its all top secret, we don't know what's right or not,
its worse than MI5.
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| Updating the website, giving the fans updates on team selection and availability, interviews from in the dugout and after match reaction from our coach it all just seems one big chore! Where's the passion and drive? seems the players are looking for the coach to lift them, the coach is looking for carl to lift him, and carl is wanting the crowd to lift the players!
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| Time for a mass sacking ....
Thornton, Howden, Hedges, Heil,Thackray, Aizue, Muranka and anyone else tossing it off should go right now.
Two decent half
Backs and two decent props bought immediately ... I don't care where from ... and the usual excuses for not signing mid season should not be accepted. Oh and a quality coach brought in , one who played as an attacker in his playing days.
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| York were well drilled and had obviously done their homework.
Where we were sat you could hear the players talking at the scrum. Every time it looked like Tali was going to get the ball it was called by at least four players and they moved up quickly to prevent him building up a head of steam.
After the game one of the York players was talking to a supporter and he said they knew if they could stop the bigger Doncaster forwards and Tali they were in with a chance. He also said at half time the coach had called our left edge a weakness to attack.
The worrying thing for me was that when plan A was failing for us we couldn't adapt to a plan B. York had an initial game plan that they stuck to which was then altered at half time to give them the best opportunity of succeeding. I wonder what was said at half time to the Don's players.
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| Quote ="Stand-Offish"Time for a mass sacking ....
Thornton, Howden, Hedges, Heil,Thackray, Aizue, Muranka and anyone else tossing it off should go right now.
Two decent half
Backs and two decent props bought immediately ... I don't care where from ... and the usual excuses for not signing mid season should not be accepted. Oh and a quality coach brought in , one who played as an attacker in his playing days.'"
You've missed mason 'tampax' tonks in for one week then out for 3!
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| Think that's a bit unfair about Tonks , just come back from injury & had to play 80 mins v Toronto .
I would add Carr to S-O's list also another not performing .
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| Quote ="weighman"Think that's a bit unfair about Tonks , just come back from injury & had to play 80 mins v Toronto .
I would add Carr to S-O's list also another not performing .'"
The thing is I rate tonks highly but if your besieged with injuries at his young age it's very unlikely you will ever perform at the level you should do.
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| I don't mind Tonka and Carr.
I do mind players bulled up as special not being special or at least not fulfilling their primary role.
Injury problems aside our two first choice halfbacks do not when selected do their jobs anywhere near well.
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| Quote ="weighman"Sanjunien why not put that question to him(Carl) on ITD.
Dons 11 I didn't hear the substituted player say anything about another player . With regard to the leaders on the pitch I beg to differ .
We have fans who turned up at York to support their team, they all care , I do not enjoy having to shout about the discipline .
At least GT admitted in his reply to me that we have a discipline problem . CH has not admitted that in the numerous times the question has been asked . He did say he did not condone abuse of officials .'"
The question could be easily asked but I doubt I would get the correct response.
I don't believe Carl has any input on the coaching but I would put my house on him having a major influence on the recruitment.
From what the regulars to the games describe the mega problem seems to be tactics and motivation. Is GT a RL dinosaur and has he lost the dressing room ?
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| Tactics?
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| Both I would say .
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| Can't be both ... we don't have any tactics do we?
Can't say I have noticed any.
Unless looking embarrassed is a tactic.
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For those that enjoy a chuckle .... Gary's thoughts on the York bore-a-thon.
www.doncasterrugbyleague.co.uk
'Hopefully' he will remember we do have a game next Friday.
So 'hopefully' we may see an improvement then too.
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For those that enjoy a chuckle .... Gary's thoughts on the York bore-a-thon.
www.doncasterrugbyleague.co.uk
'Hopefully' he will remember we do have a game next Friday.
So 'hopefully' we may see an improvement then too.
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| The performance was no different from the Keighley game , poor discipline , poor set completion , no plan B .
The York coach worked us out , they also lost a couple of players injured & we could not take charge of the game , but their players wanted more than us in the 2nd half .
What is this middles thing anyway ?
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| Those in the middle of the muddle ...
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| GT in an article in the Star has admitted discipline was a problem v Toronto & York , in the later game we gave away 15 penalties 4 when we had the ball .
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| Quote ="weighman"GT in an article in the Star has admitted discipline was a problem v Toronto & York , in the later game we gave away 15 penalties 4 when we had the ball .'"
I put this in the same rubbish bin as politicians saying sorry.
He admitted?
These are merely observations.
What really matters is what he intends to do about it!!!
He is full of bullshoite.
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