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| Talking about the blame culture ... it is all Club Doncaster's fault.
There we were in a backwater of oblivion, relatively happy as pigs in sh/t being fed a diet of mediocrity.
Then up comes Club Doncaster with a plan for Super league, not in the next world but in this. Further to that in a relatively short time scale.
Needless to say our expectations are now raised.
We have a RIGHT to promotion, a RIGHT to Super league.
They have all but promised it after all.
This is why rage has increased ... let's call it Rovers rage.
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| There appears to be a lack of anger within the Rovers players in the past few games that is for sure. Perhaps it should be Pussy Club Doncaster.
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| In what other line of work can you underachieve and fail to hit your targets year after year and still be employed? (apart from the tory government), we simply don't have the right people with the energy, drive and knowledge to make us a successful club.
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| Doncaster Free press Analysis Of The Season:
[urlhttp://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/analysis-from-steve-hossack-as-doncaster-rlfc-fail-to-reach-league-one-play-offs-1-8762695[/url
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| That is pretty much how I would have written it ... only better of course.
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I am glad he didn't pussyfoot around Richard Horne's record,which I see as abysmal and I too feel that the fact we weren't thrashed in those MANY defeats has come to Horne's recue.
It is still an abysmal record though.
Without looking at the stats, I have a feeling that he did worse than the man who got the sack ... yet he survives.
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| ...for the moment....
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| Did not look into player recruitment over the past few years .
We have to give RH a fair chance , lets see who we recruit for 2018.
I await with interest the replies to my statement , please remember it is my opinion .
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| Since Richard Horne took over we’ve won 4, drawn 1, and lost 7.
We’ve scored 320 points and conceded 242.
The losing margins have been: 1, 4, 4, 5, 8 ,10 ,and 12 points.
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| Quote ="Tatty Feeld"As you appear unable to look up the definition of sham,here it is for you "a thing that is not what it is purported to be" and putting it into context it means Club Doncaster has no real intention of getting the Dons into Super League.Similarly you could apply the same to the Rovers where the intention to get back into the Championship is a pipe dream.Terry Bramhall at the head of Club Doncaster has the money to achieve both and I bet he's never seen a Dons game in his life.Come to think of it Baldwins only seen one as far as I know and that was when Carl Hall dragged him along. So there you are,another definition of sham "falsely presenting something as the truth" meaning really they appear to have no passion for the Dons at all.'"
Well credit to you for having responded but I would say you are wrong on almost every count. Club Doncaster has every intention of seeing the Dons in Super League and the Rovers in the Championship and both Gavin Baldwin and Terry Bramall have said as much in the Meet the Owners evenings. The one factor in this that they can't control is performances on the pitch.
Terry Bramall (and the late Dick Watson) have been and are putting considerable sums of money into Club Doncaster though the eventual intention is for it to be able to generate sufficient income to be self-financing. Savings on the administration which I mentioned recently are one source of this but there are many other initiatives happening behind the scenes which are contributing. These include hiring out space (including car park space) to outside bodies; the full take-up of the outside pitches at the Keepmoat. (The demand for these is so great that more are to be provided.)
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| Quote ="Tatty Feeld"As you appear unable to look up the definition of sham,here it is for you "a thing that is not what it is purported to be" and putting it into context it means Club Doncaster has no real intention of getting the Dons into Super League.Similarly you could apply the same to the Rovers where the intention to get back into the Championship is a pipe dream.Terry Bramhall at the head of Club Doncaster has the money to achieve both and I bet he's never seen a Dons game in his life.Come to think of it Baldwins only seen one as far as I know and that was when Carl Hall dragged him along. So there you are,another definition of sham "falsely presenting something as the truth" meaning really they appear to have no passion for the Dons at all.'"
Well credit to you for having responded but I would say you are wrong on almost every count. Club Doncaster has every intention of seeing the Dons in Super League and the Rovers in the Championship and both Gavin Baldwin and Terry Bramall have said as much in the Meet the Owners evenings. The one factor in this that they can't control is performances on the pitch.
Terry Bramall (and the late Dick Watson) have been and are putting considerable sums of money into Club Doncaster though the eventual intention is for it to be able to generate sufficient income to be self-financing. Savings on the administration which I mentioned recently are one source of this but there are many other initiatives happening behind the scenes which are contributing. These include hiring out space (including car park space) to outside bodies; the full take-up of the outside pitches at the Keepmoat (The demand for these is so great that more are to be provided.); initiatives in respect of the sports education courses which are always fully subscribed. The existing car parks are being occupied to capacity on most Rovers match days and plans are in hand to expand car parking space to the benefit of the Club Doncaster coffers.
I don't know if Terry Bramall has been to a Dons match but one thing he often mentions at meetings is that he is a rugby rather than a football man so I have no doubt that he would welcome the opportunity to attend a Dons match.
Club Doncaster is a relatively new concept but it is moving in the right direction. Its aim is to embrace as many Doncaster-based activities as possible in order to raise the town's sporting profile nationally. The more that is achieved the more we will be able to attract high profile events to the town. We have already established the stadium as a preferred venue for Challenge Cup semi-finals and it has also hosted women's football international matches and an England under-19 international match. All of these activities bring in income to enable Club Doncaster to support its core operations .
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| I don't know why the thread printed my last lost before I had finished typing it but I apologise for it.
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| The thread didn't do anything ... you did.
IHTH.
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| Quote ="Danensian"I don't know why the thread printed my last lost before I had finished typing it but I apologise for it.'"
You are doing a pretty good job defending Club Doncaster and I don't t take exception to any of that.
Of course they want their stated targets and are working towards them.
They may be deluded, but that is a separate argument.
But I have to say I don't agree with your excuse that they can't be responsible/have an influence on things that happen on the field.
They would have to be stupid fatalists if they thought that.
More to the point, what steps would you take to improve our side in a quantitative and qualitative manner?
Specifically I mean.
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| Quote ="Stand-Offish"The thread didn't do anything ... you did.
IHTH.'"
No I did not!! I only discovered the half finished version was there when I tried to submit the full version and was told that another post had been made.
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| Quote ="Stand-Offish"
More to the point, what steps would you take to improve our side in a quantitative and qualitative manner?
Specifically I mean.'"
I wouldn't do anything. I would leave it to the coach who knows more about these things than I (or you) do
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| Quote ="Danensian"I wouldn't do anything. I would leave it to the coach who knows more about these things than I (or you) do'"
Danensian
How long have you been supporting the Dons?
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| Quote ="GeoffRoebuck"Danensian
How long have you been supporting the Dons?'"
Since the very first match in 1951
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| Quote ="Danensian"No I did not!! I only discovered the half finished version was there when I tried to submit the full version and was told that another post had been made.'"
Are you real?
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| Quote ="Danensian"I wouldn't do anything. I would leave it to the coach who knows more about these things than I (or you) do'"
So you yourself have NOTHING to offer.
Thought so.
Have you ever postulated that a monkey could have, with no knowledge of rugby, done as well as RH?
I admire your faith.
Because that is all it is.
You would have gone down with the Titanic, trusting in Captain Smith over the immediate needs of survival.
Me, I would have got off with Kate Winslett.
I will regard all your future posts with disdain.
You have by your own admission nothing to suggest specifically to improve the team.
Apart from leaving to a coach that knows better than we do about losing.
Fooking risible.
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| Quote ="Danensian"Since the very first match in 1951'"
So if I ask you some questions about the old Dons you should have no problem in answering them?
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| Geoff do not you believe him ? He goes now that is the main thing !
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| Quote ="GeoffRoebuck"So if I ask you some questions about the old Dons you should have no problem in answering them?'"
If Danensian said he went to the very first match, why do you feel the need to challenge him about it? I’m puzzled.
Regardless of that, everyone has got an equal right to come on here and state their views whether they’re current fans or not.
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| Quote ="Danensian"No I did not!! I only discovered the half finished version was there when I tried to submit the full version and was told that another post had been made.'"
I've had problems with this site doing strange things recently. At times, it automatically scrolls down to the bottom of the page and I can't get back to the box where we type. It then freezes up and I have to start again.
I've not had this specific problem yet. I've had the opposite problem where I thought a message had been posted but found when I came back the next time that it wasn't there.
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| That is because you hadn't actually posted it and checked it was there.
I have never had a post disappear unless a mod deleted I.
I always check the post is posted since 'submit' doesn't always work.
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