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| Quote ="Moonlight":24qtaik9No given an ordinary season with a settled side, but with a good few years of turmoil behind it Doncaster RL is not a club IMO that folk are prepared to gamble on a season ticket, whatever the price. I will not be buying a season ticket and will take it game for game. That is the whole point, why set the matchday senior price at a level that is off putting to the hardned fans who think likewise, never mind the casual fans that may decide to come down if the team performs accordingly. The club is not a charity I grant you, but neither are the bloody long suffering folk who have been there through thick and thin. The club needs to be a trusted organization and overpricing its OAP fans ain't doing much for that trust.'"
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| Quote ="slowwalkinprop"[code[/code'"
Charging more for an inferior product usually shuts the shop, and yes I am on OAP and yes I can afford the new inflated price but will I be there as often as before, I doubt it. Sorry Carl you got this one wrong.
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| Quote ="rupert bear"The article quoted above states the average weekly wage is now 549.80 !
Not in our house it isn't !
Many people are struggling at the momemt, not just pensioners. However i appreciate what people are saying. Maybe if we weren't paying out for all the free loaders coming into the country we would all be better off but that's going off the subject.I still think it's not a bad price though when compared with what you pay in SL to see past it Aussies etc.'"
To be fair we probably have more free loading English people than any other ethnicity. The likes of Rupert Murdoch (who changes his nationality to get his own way in some countries) has never paid any tax, like many of the wealthy English people who can afford clever accountants.
Lets not bring racism into the club's inability to get the pricing structure right.
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| Quote ="slowwalkinprop":3n22j885Charging more for an inferior product usually shuts the shop, and yes I am on OAP and yes I can afford the new inflated price but will I be there as often as before, I doubt it. Sorry Carl you got this one wrong.'" are long term and the future, as for a poorer product, I've watched some cracking games in the lower reaches of the amateur game, why ! because the ability of both teams are equal.
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| Quote ="weighman"Its the % increase thats the problem I think for both season ticket & match day prices.'" Very old saying, pay peanuts you get peanuts, how will the club be able to move onwards and upwards if the loyals only want to pay peanuts.
How many home games does a season ticket cover ?
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| Quote ="Stand-Offish"Don't let facts get in the way of ill-informed opinion DF.
Incidentally, I have just had a scan of some club sites from all the divisions including Superleague..........a lot have not posted their 2010 prices yet....but on the ones that have, there is a clear pattern irrespective of how high or low the cost is....and that pattern is that at the gate the senior price is about two thirds of the adult price.
So irrespective of unemployment and the relative incomes of people......that lot (other clubs) have got it wrong and Donny have got it right then?
Well all I can say is thank goodness throughout the leagues in general COMMON SENSE prevails....and that an historical concession still remains for folk that have put thousands of pounds over the years into rugby league and are being rewarded.
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The three main factors they never had in 1950 are possibly.
1, people are living longer resulting in more pension money being issued across the board.
2, The jewels (Gas & Electricity) in the crown where sold off by the conservatives.
3, We now have far more immigrates living in the UK claiming benefits.
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| Quote ="Stand-Offish"Don't let him sidetrack you into a separate issue.
Unemployment, poor pensioners, rich pensioners on company pensions are to be found everywhere.....Donny is in no way a special case.....although I would propose that we have a fair share of poorish state-only pensioners with top up benefits.
The point is that most other clubs recognise the concession and preserve it.
Donny is swimming against the tide and it is not justified.
And if they persist it won't be forgotten....and I for one will seriously consider not going to home games, instead just some away games..
And it is not that I can't afford it......it's the same principle that stops me buying beer at the Keepmoat when I know I am being ripped off.
Cue someone accusng me of moaning in another attempt at deflection.
Anyway...I will say NO MORE about this!!!!'"
We people like you I would just pull the plug on the club, what a whinging tw@ - have 1 less beer for Gods sake and allow the club to grow.
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| Quote ="wahs"There are people who only receive OAP who pay income tax and if they receive any other pension they pay tax'"
My mother and father are in a far worst group, the ones who's company pension take them just over the limit, this results in them having to pay full council rent, full TV Licence, Dental bills etc, do they whinge NO they just get on with it.
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| Quote ="Moonlight"No given an ordinary season with a settled side, but with a good few years of turmoil behind it Doncaster RL is not a club IMO that folk are prepared to gamble on a season ticket, whatever the price. I will not be buying a season ticket and will take it game for game. That is the whole point, why set the matchday senior price at a level that is off putting to the hardned fans who think likewise, never mind the casual fans that may decide to come down if the team performs accordingly. The club is not a charity I grant you, but neither are the bloody long suffering folk who have been there through thick and thin. The club needs to be a trusted organization and overpricing its OAP fans ain't doing much for that trust.'" I suppose the season ticket price (adult) awards the faithful.
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| Quote ="Marshland"We people like you I would just pull the plug on the club, what a whinging tw@ - have 1 less beer for Gods sake and allow the club to grow.'"
YOU need to keep off the drink with your late night insults...why you are hardly coherent.
Have you re-read any of your recent posts?
You have nothing to contribute whatsoever apart from insults and when challenged to quantify any of your rantings you don't...or can't.
You're not even a proper Donny supporter....and you come on here lecturing us.
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| I started this post to let people who didnt attend the forum know the season ticket prices.
Please donot let this get into a slanging match , it does the individuals concerned no credit.
Big Baz (Supporters Trust ) has approached the club re the pricing structure , lets see if anything is changed as a result .
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| Quote ="Marshland"My mother and father are in a far worst group, the ones who's company pension take them just over the limit, this results in them having to pay full council rent, full TV Licence, Dental bills etc, do they whinge NO they just get on with it.'"
I would be very surprised if your parents paid for a full TV licence it's free for anyone over 75.
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God-Forbid that your parents become really ill and have a bit put by in their bank account and own their own home----
That's when the care-home charges kick in at up to £800 a Week---would they feel like just getting on with it then--i doubt it.
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| Quote ="weighman"I started this post to let people who didnt attend the forum know the season ticket prices.
Please donot let this get into a slanging match , it does the individuals concerned no credit.
Big Baz (Supporters Trust ) has approached the club re the pricing structure , lets see if anything is changed as a result .'"
I totally agree......but who came steaming in the with the insults first?
We're supposed to clam up while we are insulted are we?
That bloke holds grudges and it's plain as day.
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| Quote ="Marshland"Very old saying, pay peanuts you get peanuts, how will the club be able to move onwards and upwards if the loyals only want to pay peanuts.
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Presumably that old that you can't even remember what the saying actually is?
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| Quote ="Marshland"
How many home games does a season ticket cover ?'"
12.
(2 NR Group games, 1 Chall Cup match and 9 League games I think)
I guess it assumes the RFL ratify an 10-team Championship One.
EDIT - Only 10 teams in Chamionship One.
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| Quote ="Moonlight"No given an ordinary season with a settled side, but with a good few years of turmoil behind it Doncaster RL is not a club IMO that folk are prepared to gamble on a season ticket, whatever the price. I will not be buying a season ticket and will take it game for game. That is the whole point, why set the matchday senior price at a level that is off putting to the hardned fans who think likewise, never mind the casual fans that may decide to come down if the team performs accordingly. The club is not a charity I grant you, but neither are the bloody long suffering folk who have been there through thick and thin. The club needs to be a trusted organization and overpricing its OAP fans ain't doing much for that trust.'"
Quote ="Marshland"I suppose the season ticket price (adult) awards the faithful.'"
The reduction in Season Ticket price as against the total of paying at the gate per game is indeed a reward for the 'faithful' but it also gives the Club money up front which is clearly advantageous to it.
The point being made is that more and more people have sadly lost faith in the Club to see out any season without some sort of problem and therefore feel that in the event that they may miss a game or two due to holidays, the benefit (for them) is not worth the gamble of paying up front.
(That is not a criticism of those in charge now, it's just people have long memories).
As we have been told that the Club has not budgeted for any season ticket sales, just 350 Adults and 100 children at the gate then Season Ticket Sales would indeed be a bonus to the Club assuming the other targets are met.
It does however pose a question ... Is it 350 paying full adult price or a percentage paying the OAP price?
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| The Supporters Trust Committee have a meeting scheduled with Carl Hall, Steve Scholes and John Scarrow on Thursday (12 November).
We will raise the concerns highlighted in this thread and provide some feedback.
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| You sure do work hard keeping this board informing the Donny fans , just noticed you have almost a quarter of the posts on the board
Well done keep it up
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| Hi All,
If as many people supported the club as in our Race night coming up on the 10th December, fans forums we are looking at holding regular(not just the same faces every time), lottery and other events we put on as they do come on here to air there views, we may be in a better position in the future when we look at season ticket prices.
From reading the posts on here neally everyone has come up with a different price structure so whoever would of set prices not everyone would of been happy.
This is not having a go at anyone it's fact.
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| Quote ="Starbug"You sure do work hard keeping this board informing the Donny fans , just noticed you have almost a quarter of the posts on the board'"
Didn't realise that.
Quote ="Starbug"
Well done keep it up'"
Thanks, will do.
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| Quote ="Stand-Offish"YOU need to keep off the drink with your late night insults...why you are hardly coherent.
Have you re-read any of your recent posts?
You have nothing to contribute whatsoever apart from insults and when challenged to quantify any of your rantings you don't...or can't.
You're not even a proper Donny supporter....and you come on here lecturing us.
Tune in tomorrow night folks for more of Marshy's p/ssed up posts.'"
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| Quote ="Stand-Offish"YOU need to keep off the drink with your late night insults...why you are hardly coherent.
Have you re-read any of your recent posts?
You have nothing to contribute whatsoever apart from insults and when challenged to quantify any of your rantings you don't...or can't.
You're not even a proper Donny supporter....and you come on here lecturing us.
Tune in tomorrow night folks for more of Marshy's p/ssed up posts.'"
Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.. You made that post and the other posts that you usually make, like anybody really cares what you say!!..
So, how would you define a 'Proper' Dons supporter??
I would say.. Anybody who comes to support the Dons every week, 'or' those who just go now and again and pays their money is a 'proper' Dons supporter.. But.. You only get what you pay for!!
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| Quote ="DonnyD"Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.. You made that post and the other posts that you usually make, like anybody really cares what you say!!..
So, how would you define a 'Proper' Dons supporter??
I would say.. Anybody who comes to support the Dons every week, 'or' those who just go now and again and pays their money is a 'proper' Dons supporter.. But.. You only get what you pay for!!
Tune in tomorra for more of SO's Sarcastic comments
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It wasn't sarcasm at all.....he's an Hull supporter who comes to some Donny games....and comes on here and calls people s.
I would classify that as a very low form of contribution.
As for what I say.......on this particular topic unless you come from Mars....you should have detected that most proper dons supporters agree the senior price differential is wrong.
Which is the point of this thread.
And unless you have something proper to contribue apart from trying to fuel arguments....perhaps you ought to not bother.
This is an information and DISCUSSION forum.....I don't expect people to like or agree with everything I say....but at least I contribute and regularly.
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| I think that enough has now been said on this subject for the time being.
It will be raised with the Club representatives on Thursday and their response will be made available.
However, one thought ... we have so few supporters that we can ill afford to fall out amongst ourselves.
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| The Supporters Society (Trust) Committee raised this issue with representatives from the Club yesterday evening.
As Carl Hall was unable to attend the meeting, John Scarrow (Chairman) fielded the question and advised that the Club took a decision that they wished to get Children (and therefore Families) to the games - hence the £1 per game offer to 5 - 16 year olds.
Beyond that they pitched the prices as they believed appropriate to achieve a required level of revenue once the Childrens price had been factored in. They accept that this has not proved popular with a small number of people but acknowledge that they won't please all of the people all of the time.
John pointed out that the Club believe the Season Tickets (for all supporters) to be an extremely good deal and understood that they are priced as attractively as anyone else in our division.
The prices for match day and season tickets will remain as advertised.
Gary Fox
(Chairman - Doncaster Rugby League Supporters Society).
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