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| Like most supporters I have been very critical of the way this season has gone but now that I have heard it "straight from the horses mouth", my opinions have been changed. Paul Cooke was responsible for the signing of players and he was told money was available but he decided not to use it.Carl Hall signs the contracts on behalf of the Dons but he has tried to get some quality players to come since it all went pear shaped. As to next season,read the minutes of the last meeting and you will see things are already being put in place to put out a strong team next season This includes a commitment from Club Doncaster that funds will be available for signing quality players.If what was said at the meeting turns out to be untrue then that will be the time to call for harsh criticism and heads to roll.
I thought we had turned the corner with the win over Hunslet but against Halfax we got worse and worse as the match went on especially down the right wing which had obviously been targetted. You can't play without decent half backs as we all recognise. In the meantime COYD.
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| The club has to say something in difficult situations like this ... but for me it is nonsense.
How daft is it to say we have a plan A and plan B.
Plan A is dead in the water ... when they said it it was dead in the water ... I trust that they didn't waste too much time on it!
If it was me, I'd have apologised and said ... "If we go down, we are coming straight back up, that's a pledge, so stick with us."
Instead we have the appealing plan B. Not this season when we needed it, but next . With a season's evidence of how good our planning is at present.
We hardly ever get top players. We get cast-offs and players that are not anywhere near maturity and not able to take on seasoned quality players.
It's all a bit Steptoe and Son for my liking
A cart load of used false teeth anyone?
How about signing someone we have heard of for next season, that would be a good start.
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| I'm really annoyed about what has happened this season and I just don't buy the story about misjudging the league. There are enough people at the club with knowledge of the game for them to have been able to see that the squad wasnt good enough early on in the season. There were several people on here who predicted it so the club should have been able to.
Then to just wait until we are all but relegated before making any changes is criminal. Even within the last few weeks they have had the nerve to come out and say they have a plan ready for if we stay up, it's ridiculous.
I know we are now all placing our hopes on them bouncing straight back up next season but I'm not confident in that happening. I think the club are setting themselves up for a disaster if they can't deliver on this.
It's not just the team, Everything this season has been a joke. Moving the kick off to 2pm to accommodate the Eagles was a mistake. We now have a situation where during the last 10-20 minutes of our match we have fans for the second game wandering about choosing their seats. There's more atmosphere between the two away teams who aren't even playing each other than there is between us and our opponents. (OT but would it be possible to some how have the dug outs on the same side of the pitch as the fans?)
Fair play to the fans who are still going home or away every week and disagree with others like me moaning about the situation but I think there's been so much go wrong that we are entitled to a moan. I know some people are of the opinion that if you don't go every week then your not a true supporter but at the end of the day If your not enjoying watching the team then there's no point wasting your time and money because of a misguided loyalty.
At this stage I doubt I'll be attending many or any matches next year, I might not even bother using my season ticket for the remainder of this year. I'm not the only one either, this time plenty of diehards are losing interest. The club don't seem to care, why should we?
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| Quote ="The Prodigal Don" (OT but would it be possible to some how have the dug outs on the same side of the pitch as the fans?)
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I wrote to Carl a couple of seasons ago suggesting there would be a better atmosphere if the subs benches were on our side of the pitch. he said he'd have a word with the groundsman to see if it could be sorted. The groundsman must still be working on it.
The interchange man is waving pieces of paper to no one at the moment. There is little connection with the players when they come off and this can't help anyone. Compare the Keepmoat to Castle Park. It certainly helps the atmosphere at the game when the benches are near the fans.
I realise this subject may seem of little consequence at the moment considering all the other problems we've got but I agree with Prodigal. Many little things cost next to nothing to do, and we need to get them right too.
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Quote ="Tatty Feeld". Paul Cooke was responsible for the signing of players and he was told money was available but he decided not to use it..'"
Would like Paul Cooke's take on that statement and if it's true his reasons behind the decision he made.
Because towards the middle of last season (June-2014) Paul made the following quote-
www.totalrl.com/doncaster-planning-2015-already/
That suggested a good deal of forward planning on behalf of the club---- What happened.
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Would like Paul Cooke's take on that statement and if it's true his reasons behind the decision he made.
Because towards the middle of last season (June-2014) Paul made the following quote-
www.totalrl.com/doncaster-planning-2015-already/
That suggested a good deal of forward planning on behalf of the club---- What happened.
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| Quote ="Tatty Feeld"Like most supporters I have been very critical of the way this season has gone but now that I have heard it "straight from the horses mouth", my opinions have been changed. Paul Cooke was responsible for the signing of players and he was told money was available but he decided not to use it.Carl Hall signs the contracts on behalf of the Dons but he has tried to get some quality players to come since it all went pear shaped. As to next season,read the minutes of the last meeting and you will see things are already being put in place to put out a strong team next season This includes a commitment from Club Doncaster that funds will be available for signing quality players.If what was said at the meeting turns out to be untrue then that will be the time to call for harsh criticism and heads to roll.
I thought we had turned the corner with the win over Hunslet but against Halfax we got worse and worse as the match went on especially down the right wing which had obviously been targetted. You can't play without decent half backs as we all recognise. In the meantime COYD.'"
If they told you we'd be in super league next season you'd believe it?
they tell you what they want to keep everyone on their side. They've had all season to put things right and haven't even bothered.
its just gone from bad to worse to worse to worse.
they must be putting a hell of a lot of money in to this plan b, that's all you hear plan b, plan b. but no one knows what plan b is.
I don't know where they think the crowds are going to come from next season,so there'll be no income from that. And the season after we may well be playing Thorne Moorends Marauders or Rossington Hornets if we're lucky.
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| Quote ="Tatty Feeld"Like most supporters I have been very critical of the way this season has gone but now that I have heard it "straight from the horses mouth", my opinions have been changed. Paul Cooke was responsible for the signing of players and he was told money was available but he decided not to use it.Carl Hall signs the contracts on behalf of the Dons but he has tried to get some quality players to come since it all went pear shaped. As to next season,read the minutes of the last meeting and you will see things are already being put in place to put out a strong team next season This includes a commitment from Club Doncaster that funds will be available for signing quality players.If what was said at the meeting turns out to be untrue then that will be the time to call for harsh criticism and heads to roll.
I thought we had turned the corner with the win over Hunslet but against Halfax we got worse and worse as the match went on especially down the right wing which had obviously been targetted. You can't play without decent half backs as we all recognise. In the meantime COYD.'"
How can you just totally forget the season we have just had? if id have performed like that at my work id be long gone! i think before club doncaster give us some rubbish about a massive season next year we fans should get to the bottom on why we have been lied to and mugged off in this one, but once again its wed teatime and we have'nt had any reaction or interviews regarding our match last sunday ( im pretty the only time the website gets updated early in the week is when carl is begging for ticket sales!) its almost embarrassing how poorly and amateurish this club is run.
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| Quote ="Stand-Offish"The club has to say something in difficult situations like this ... but for me it is nonsense.
How daft is it to say we have a plan A and plan B.
Plan A is dead in the water ... when they said it it was dead in the water ... I trust that they didn't waste too much time on it!
If it was me, I'd have apologised and said ... "If we go down, we are coming straight back up, that's a pledge, so stick with us."
Instead we have the appealing plan B. Not this season when we needed it, but next . With a season's evidence of how good our planning is at present.
We hardly ever get top players. We get cast-offs and players that are not anywhere near maturity and not able to take on seasoned quality players.
It's all a bit Steptoe and Son for my liking
A cart load of used false teeth anyone?
How about signing someone we have heard of for next season, that would be a good start.
COYD'"
At a fans forum meeting the club did apologise and said that we would make every effort to gain promotion at the first attempt , this was backed up by Gavin Baldwin who said funds would be available to facilitate this ambition , and Carl hall has since tweeted that we have more or less got a quality signing in place and to watch this space
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| Quote ="Titanic don"At a fans forum meeting the club did apologise and said that we would make every effort to gain promotion at the first attempt , this was backed up by Gavin Baldwin who said funds would be available to facilitate this ambition , and Carl hall has since tweeted that we have more or less got a quality signing in place and to watch this space'"
Sounds good just a pity its a season too late! COYD
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| as said its all just a smoke screen to keep everyone onside for next season
completely right Leafy a season to late. A fortnight would be too late never mind a season.
the horse has gone and taken the supporters and their trust with it!
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| Don't know if you go on the fans facebook page onedon, but on there it is generally a different view. Sure there are some who say they won't be going again etc, but a lot more are behind Carl and willing to give the new coach a chance. Fans said the club should admit they made mistakes , they did and said they are going to try and put things right, yes they could, and probably should, have done thing's sooner, but it didn't happen , nothing can change that now. They say they've learned from those mistakes, let's hope they have. I for one believe that Carl Hall is telling us the truth about about club Doncaster's intent for next season and beyond. Whether I think club Doncaster are telling Carl the truth......well, the jury's out.
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| Quote ="donny hkr"Don't know if you go on the fans facebook page onedon, but on there it is generally a different view. Sure there are some who say they won't be going again etc, but a lot more are behind Carl and willing to give the new coach a chance. Fans said the club should admit they made mistakes , they did and said they are going to try and put things right, yes they could, and probably should, have done thing's sooner, but it didn't happen , nothing can change that now. They say they've learned from those mistakes, let's hope they have. I for one believe that Carl Hall is telling us the truth about about club Doncaster's intent for next season and beyond. Whether I think club Doncaster are telling Carl the truth......well, the jury's out.'"
When I was at a meeting Gav Baldwin was in attendance and he was supportive of all the comments made he seemed genuine in the ambitions of club doncaster and he confirmed that money was made available and still is
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| Quote ="Titanic don"Quote ="donny hkr"Don't know if you go on the fans facebook page onedon, but on there it is generally a different view. Sure there are some who say they won't be going again etc, but a lot more are behind Carl and willing to give the new coach a chance. Fans said the club should admit they made mistakes , they did and said they are going to try and put things right, yes they could, and probably should, have done thing's sooner, but it didn't happen , nothing can change that now. They say they've learned from those mistakes, let's hope they have. I for one believe that Carl Hall is telling us the truth about about club Doncaster's intent for next season and beyond. Whether I think club Doncaster are telling Carl the truth......well, the jury's out.'"
When I was at a meeting Gav Baldwin was in attendance and he was supportive of all the comments made he seemed genuine in the ambitions of club doncaster and he confirmed that money was made available and still is'"
I don't doubt he seemed genuine TD, you and the other fans in attendance had good things to say about the meeting. Just saying we need to judge them on what they do from NOW , and give them the chance to right the wrongs. But it is up to club Doncaster to prove it means what it says.
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| Quote ="Titanic don"At a fans forum meeting the club did apologise and said that we would make every effort to gain promotion at the first attempt , this was backed up by Gavin Baldwin who said funds would be available to facilitate this ambition , and Carl hall has since tweeted that we have more or less got a quality signing in place and to watch this space'"
Well it had better be a quality signing.
Because our last good signing was some time back.
Money aside the role models to me are Leigh and Sheffield.
The ethos is skill, speed and power.
Any old Joe slow Soap can get into our side, but the above two won't entertain them.
We need to wake up ... no more Sheffield and Fev cast-offs should be tolerated.
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| Quote ="Stand-Offish"Well it had better be a quality signing.
Because our last good signing was some time back.
Money aside the role models to me are Leigh and Sheffield.
The ethos is skill, speed and power.
Any old Joe slow Soap can get into our side, but the above two won't entertain them.
We need to wake up ... no more Sheffield and Fev cast-offs should be tolerated.
Our recruitment strategy is hopeless.'"
I can assure you that at the meeting GT did assure us that fitness was his priority , that's what won York the title last season , he did say that our club was lacking in the fitness dept and he was dealing with the best he could in the short training sessions that was available
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| Quote ="Titanic don"I can assure you that at the meeting GT did assure us that fitness was his priority , that's what won York the title last season , he did say that our club was lacking in the fitness dept and he was dealing with the best he could in the short training sessions that was available'"
I am glad to hear it.
He can't be very happy with pedigree he has inherited.
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| Quote ="Titanic don"I can assure you that at the meeting GT did assure us that fitness was his priority , that's what won York the title last season , he did say that our club was lacking in the fitness dept and he was dealing with the best he could in the short training sessions that was available'"
Surely the clubs management must have know some time ago that the players were lacking in fitness but they didn't do anything about it rank bad management.
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| Didn't Carl say we are making some great signings and watch this space at the end of last season, I think with the departures of the players named in the last few weeks the spaces in the stands will get larger
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| Quote ="leafys bookmaker"Sounds good just a pity its a season too late!
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Just a point of interest a friend of mine from Workington informs me that sammut is to leave at the end of season , and he has found another club for next season , make of this what you will
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| Quote ="Titanic don"Just a point of interest a friend of mine from Workington informs me that sammut is to leave at the end of season , and he has found another club for next season , make of this what you will'"
just as we said at the time then. Used him to keep them up which he probably has done after sun result.
Which is what we should have done.
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| Both kain and sammutt could of been the extra bit of quality needed but instead of kicking on and being ambitious we penny pinched, and although it will hurt me personally to watch my side in the bottom division next year its totally deserved, it was criminal we didnt go in for sammutt who was based locally with wakefield instead we watched him go to london then workington, the guy is super league quality and in my view would of jumped at the chance of coming here and putting himself in the shop window. The bottom line is we don't operate like clubs in and around us thats why we will always have 1 decent season surrounded by 10 bad ones
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| Quote ="leafys bookmaker"Both kain and sammutt could of been the extra bit of quality needed but instead of kicking on and being ambitious we penny pinched, and although it will hurt me personally to watch my side in the bottom division next year its totally deserved, it was criminal we didnt go in for sammutt who was based locally with wakefield instead we watched him go to london then workington, the guy is super league quality and in my view would of jumped at the chance of coming here and putting himself in the shop window. The bottom line is we don't operate like clubs in and around us thats why we will always have 1 decent season surrounded by 10 bad ones'"
Not going for Sammut in no way is criminal, robbery is criminal, as is murder. Not going for Sammut is a management choice, and something which the club don't have to explain to anyone. .
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| Quote ="leafys bookmaker"Both kain and sammutt could of been the extra bit of quality needed but instead of kicking on and being ambitious we penny pinched, and although it will hurt me personally to watch my side in the bottom division next year its totally deserved, it was criminal we didnt go in for sammutt who was based locally with wakefield instead we watched him go to london then workington, the guy is super league quality and in my view would of jumped at the chance of coming here and putting himself in the shop window. The bottom line is we don't operate like clubs in and around us thats why we will always have 1 decent season surrounded by 10 bad ones'"
The Dons did go for Sammutt but despite numerous attempts by Carl Hall to contact his agent,he didn't get back to him.
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| It all sounds like Sammut or nothing to me....
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| Quote ="Donny"Not going for Sammut in no way is criminal, robbery is criminal, as is murder. Not going for Sammut is a management choice, and something which the club don't have to explain to anyone. .'"
I think you knew what i meant by criminal you pedant! And the yeah i think the club do need to explain and inform the fans don't forget who pays them! Lets see management squirm and beg for supporters when there's 300 for home games next season, they only have themselves to blame. COYD
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