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| Quote ="kkk"The ref was a disgrace for both sides and it wouldn't be fair or truthful to say he gave us more than you'"
So your overlooking the blatent forward pass leading to your final try.This isn't sour grapes as of course we won.Can you also please explain the penalty given to Doncaster when Swinton actually dared to strike for the ball in the scrum and also he totally overlooked the fact Watson got flattened after kicking on the 5th tackle......just to name a few.
I haven't said anywhere that Doncaster didn't play well, they did and crdit to you but it will be interesting to see the penalty count in the second half especially.
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| Quote ="rugbyman"Laughton was his usual bumbling idiot in a ref's shirt, and the linesman about on par with him. Makes me wonder what the MC does on game days
I feared the worst after 20 mins, felt there was a double movement for Watson try, but the ref was poor for both sides. How many times diid he warn them for holding down, and even after having a word with the captain, two tackles later they did it again and the clown just penalised him with no sin bin.
There were more forward passes in that game today which had gone unchecked.
Great comeback from the lads, shame about the injured and absent players, felt that they could have made a difference today.
But chin up and lets go to Oldham with some confidence and style.'"
No he didn't sin bin a swinton player for holding down, instead he chose to sin bin one for raking out when it was clear to everyone watching that the Donny player had merely dropped it.
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| Quote ="Marshy1"So your overlooking the blatent forward pass leading to your final try.This isn't sour grapes as of course we won.Can you also please explain the penalty given to Doncaster when Swinton actually dared to strike for the ball in the scrum and also he totally overlooked the fact Watson got flattened after kicking on the 5th tackle......just to name a few.
I haven't said anywhere that Doncaster didn't play well, they did and crdit to you.'"
Where did i comment that you had said anything about Donny not playing well?????
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| Good team performance with lots of commitment from the lads, shame we let in those tries in the second half after having them pinned in their own 20, but thats the sign of a good team and Swinton were very impressive with some quick hands going forward.
Nice to see some away fans too, thanks for coming.
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| I agree with the Swinton Fan Marshy 1, I thought the final score flattered the Dons (not that I am not grateful for a bonus point).
They must have been bemused by some of Laughton's decisions in the second half. We clearly dropped the ball in a tackle, they got penalised and a try resulted and the final try was indeed from a forward pass.
We seemed to get almost every marginal decision in the second half.
Having said that the final try didn't matter and it did even up Watson's try.
Another 5 minutes and the Don's may well have won, and the Swinton fans would have been incandescent.
I have got to agree that the ignoring of forward passes by linesmen is becoming a disgrace and is spoiling our game. We might as well start watching the other code.
I seem to remember the lineman blatantly ignoring a forward pass by Swinton only to come charging onto the field all eagle-eyed only seconds later to assist in getting Adam Scott 10 minutes in the bin. I am not defending Scott here, merely pointing out how selective linesmen are. Now, either they have been told they have to keep out of the game as much as possible and ignore anything but a forward pass greater than 2 metres, or they are incompetent, or they are cowards. Either way it needs sorting.
I thought team spirit kept us in the game today after a poor start and you could see the delight and relief and joy from the Swinton players when they got those two quick tries in the second half. They knew that if Donny had got the first try in that half, the game was up for grabs.
Swinton could have taken their foot of the gas, I don't know, but I don't think we should get too carried away, since Swinton's defence is nowhere near as good as their attack, but good enough at times to keep out some ordinary finishing by Donny.
We need our best side out, we need to start winning again. A crowd of only 469 for a top game like that must drive the management scatty. Three defeats on the trot won't do anything to alleviate that.
Our next three games are Oldham away, Keighley at home (after a no-doubt bruising encounter with Wakey) and Workington away. After a bright start it's starting to look very hard. I'm struggling to see where the next win is coming from.
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It tickled me today when someone said to me at half-time ... 'There is only one thing worse at this place than the beer and that is Laughton'.
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| dons supporters trust are having a comedy night mid may star comedian is MR RONNIE LAUGHTOOOOON.
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| Quote ="Marshy1"So your overlooking the blatent forward pass leading to your final try.'" I don't think we are, and from where I was on the dugout side of the pitch, its possible Stu Sanderson was about a yard offside for his first try.
Quote This isn't sour grapes as of course we won.Can you also please explain the penalty given to Doncaster when Swinton actually dared to strike for the ball in the scrum'" One of a fair few strange decisions.,, Quote and and also he totally overlooked the fact Watson got flattened after kicking on the 5th tackle......just to name a few.'" From where I was stood, just to the Swinton end of the dug outs, I got a pretty decent view of it, even if I was a fair distance away, and I believe that Chris Spurrs main intention was to charge the kick down, and its unfortunate that his momentum, and that of Ian Watson led to the clash of heads. I think the fact that both of them stayed down made it look a lot worse than it was. Quote it will be interesting to see the penalty count in the second half especially.'" Indeed.
Lastly, what the hell has Phil Joseph been eating? He seems to have doubled in size since I last saw him.
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| Talk of bias referring is a bit silly after yesterday, he stank plain and simple. First half was Swinton's half, second half he gave us a lot of bad decisions (IMO).
They are a bloody good side, a bonus point against them is not to be sniffed as I don't think many will take any more of them this year
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| Quote ="kkk"The ref was a disgrace for both sides and it wouldn't be fair or truthful to say he gave us more than you'"
It would if you consider the 15-6 penalty count in your favour with 11-2 in the second half!
However a great game the right result and you are lucky to have such a fantastic ground.
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| Stand offish crowd 649 not 469
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| Quote ="wahs"Stand offish crowd 649 not 469'"
That's better, I got the numbers mixed up.
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Really good pic's as usual Rob
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| My take on yesterdays game ...
Not even gonna get into refereeing decisions, far too many strange or inconsistent ones.
Swinton started both halves better than we did and built up leads each time. I came away feeling pleased that we had stuck at it and taken a bonus point. Looking at the Lions points for and against I wonder if, whilst they are always likely to score points, they are not quite seeing out each 40 mins ... if I remember correctly, London Skolars also scored 2 late tries against them recently for an unlikely bonus point.
Had we have had other players available (Morisson, Green, Coady etc) would it have made a difference ... if I'm honest I'm not sure. What I would say is that we struggled to cope with the likes of Ainscough, Watson, Smith and Joseph for long periods and with the pace Swinton have in the backs I too think that they are in for a very decent season.
For the Dons, the late rally should give heart but the next few fixtures are difficult ones too so perhaps we could do with a few more players available to select from.
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| We certainly have nobody in our side that could do what Rob Foxen did.
We did keep Dodd quiet though, which was bonus.
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| IMO
Why does Kesik not start? - no point stating he is an impact player as even Kesik can only achieve so much when 20 points down, for me he should start.
Swinton had some class in 6 and 7 and deserved the win - just....but I thought fitness wise we were way ahead...and credit to team we at least can now compete for 80 mins plus...
Fawcett was no where to be seen until last 20 mins when he then started to make a more significant contribution....we need an 80mins half back performance every week
Spur didn't actually flatten the player it was i think Hughes who acually flattened Spur onto the man - no apparent mallice was intended and it happened right in front of where we were.
Overall a great game for all and Laughton we should be used to by now - but it is hard not to get p*ssed off with him each time...consistency across the refs would help, as some refs would have blown off side all day....that said why did we not stand 5 yards forward? as he clearly wasn't blowing for off side so we could have boxed clever with line...
I still think we will win more games than loose...COYD
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| I'm not sure we conceded a try while Kesik was on the pitch either
EDIT: We did, the one that looked like a double movement
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| Quote ="Now then"
Overall a great game for all and Laughton we should be used to by now - but it is hard not to get p*ssed off with him each time...consistency across the refs would help..'"
I still think the reason we get him more often than most refs is that it saves the RFL petrol money to send him to the Keepmoat.
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| Quote ="Donny"I still think the reason we get him more often than most refs is that it saves the RFL petrol money to send him to the Keepmoat.'"
Even followed us to France though.
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| Totally agree regarding starting with Kesik.
The Dons really started competing with Kesik and Ely came on. I'd even be tempted to move Kesik to scrum half, and haf Ely at Hooker.
Kesik is by far the only Dons player with a rugby league brain. Someone who can spot how the game is playing.
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| Quote ="originaldragon"Totally agree regarding starting with Kesik.
The Dons really started competing with Kesik and Ely came on. I'd even be tempted to move Kesik to scrum half, and haf Ely at Hooker.
Kesik is by far the only Dons player with a rugby league brain. Someone who can spot how the game is playing.'"
By which time the game was lost ... makes you wonder doesn't it?
What is the point in keeping quality back if during the meantime the game is effectively lost?
You put your best players on first ... simples.
But you and I know nothing ... no doubt someone will come forward to attest to that.
If we've not played the game itself that means we know nowt.
We do however have eyes and brains.
Still we mustn't point out what anyone can see must we, it upsets folk.
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| Agree that Kes is a player that can turn a game, and should start unless he's not fit enough for 80mins, but as for playing him at 6/7 i can't see because imo he's too much of an individual player to play there.
He's in his best position as it gives him more ball time from acting half where he can show that his line speed is good, causing opposition defences to be scrambling.
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