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| Disappointing result, to concede 46 points in championship one is very poor, if we want to establish ourselves as a solid competitive championship team then we are miles away, I am getting bored of this league.
Why did club Doncaster buy into the Dons, they said they would invest and had high ambitions, well we are still waiting .
I could accept our current position if we were still under the previous ownership led by Carl.
I am wondering if our squad just isn't good enough or do we need a change of coaching staff, I don't know the answer, I know I'm getting tired of our current position .
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| Some interesting points from Rugblyman.
Personally, I can't drum up any enthusiasm for this season at all.
It's the first season that I've felt this way after almost 40 years of supporting the Dons.
Whether it's the league format or what's being served up by the team I just don't know.
Hopefully something will happen to shake out the lethargy both in me and the team before it's too late.
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| To score 26 at Toulouse is very good ... but our rubbish defence has cost us once again.
We started like we were still on the coach by the look of it ... and then when we got a roll on and pegged them back, we then added nothing and didn't kick on.
Gloucester nearly did as well ... that's how good we are!
Our defence means we are not gonna get out of this poxy division and I don't care what Gary or Carl dish up in the dugout, that is down to you two and I for one have listened to enough excuses..
Next year we have deja vu with Toronto ... we ain't gonna get out then, what with Worky and Haven or whoever coming down.
We are continually under-recruiting, but not developing ... since half this lot will sod off probably to be replaced with nobodies.
And this league is a joke ... you don't get to see a rugby game from one month to the next.
I have said it and mean it this time, I am not watching Doncaster in this division with Toronto ( a team of chancers from all over, which will be effectively a good championship level side and next to nothing whatsoever to do with Canadian rugby).
There may be a few locals ... wow! There will be a few ex-Superleague players too.
Rowley will be coach ... he once had maple syrup on his waffles.
Our best bet was to get out of this division or face years in it. Given the total lack of what constitutes a side to get us out, I think we are little better than also-rans.
Paying money to watch Donny ship 25 points a game ain't money well spent.
If you are happy watching win-a-couple, lose-a-couple rugby, then carry on.
So go on Donny prove me wrong!
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Expect losses at London and Rochdale too.
Over to the optimists ... even they seem to have deserted this forum.
I am left with a feeling of resignation that despite the hype by the Rovers we are a perfect mirror of the soccer team ... big ideas and insufficient delivery.
Worse off than before, more stable perhaps, but boring.
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| hi peeps Mr optimist here, have to agree with all the above comments, I have been saying on here for ages that this league and its format is dire we go weeks without a game , fixtures not fair, next game we are playing in the car park, signed players we never see or hear anything about, same crap on in the dug out, A lot of the above comments may seem harsh but they are facts The rfl,, , team doncaster, its all crap . like I keep saying on here there is nothing to get excited about this season. At 59 mins yesterday we were within one score of levelling the game but we still lost by a 20 point margin. Cant wait to see the remarks of GT if and when he puts something on the Website. yours faithfully Mr NOT very optimistic.
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| Well said Brian, l gave it up and have no regrets whatsoever.
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| That's the hardest game of the season out of the way and I expected a spanking well done to the boys it's tough to go and play away there. Only Rochdale have done better against them.
Last season we signed local amateurs and got relegated this year we did a little better aizue is getting on a bit. Tali was held up by Visa problems. And injuries to the half backs would hurt any team
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| Quote ="tollbarutility"That's the hardest game of the season out of the way and I expected a spanking well done to the boys it's tough to go and play away there. Only Rochdale have done better against them.
Last season we signed local amateurs and got relegated this year we did a little better aizue is getting on a bit. Tali was held up by Visa problems. And injuries to the half backs would hurt any team'" All this is true, but it doesn't matter what team we field, we ship points like an old boat ships water.
How do you propose we fix that?
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| Change the coach? Go full time? Get a billionaire owner? None of which will happen... what do you propose?
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| Great performance from Donny against a decent but off form team. Toulouse were quite poor and lacked leadership but took advantage of some equally ordinary defending from the Dons. Some great Donny performances with Howden masterful with the boot, Kyle solid at no.9 and a special mention for David Foggin-J who didn't put a foot wrong all afternoon. Some great kids out there who did you proud.
Top visiting support was brilliant as usual except for the moron with the hooter who couldn't resist making a noise every time Toulouse took a conversion kick.
Donny aren't far from having a really good side IMO. They looked well organised but couldn't cope with the extra class from the French outfit. Lots of this will be to do with the extra coaching/training they go through of course. Well done lads, COYD.
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| Quote ="sanjunien"Great performance from Donny against a decent but off form team. Toulouse were quite poor and lacked leadership but took advantage of some equally ordinary defending from the Dons. Some great Donny performances with Howden masterful with the boot, Kyle solid at no.9 and a special mention for David Foggin-J who didn't put a foot wrong all afternoon. Some great kids out there who did you proud.
Top visiting support was brilliant as usual except for the moron with the hooter who couldn't resist making a noise every time Toulouse took a conversion kick.
Donny aren't far from having a really good side IMO. They looked well organised but couldn't cope with the extra class from the French outfit. Lots of this will be to do with the extra coaching/training they go through of course. Well done lads, COYD.'"
Toulouse were poor?
That's a comfort after shipping 46 points.
The idea was to compete and challenge in this division, which is not finished yet and we may
get promoted.
Toulouse are better than the rest and Rochdale have a better thing going with Warrington than we have with Hull.
Silly suggestions like get a billionaire and sack the coach aren't really helpful.
What would I do?
Put all my effort intointo improving our defence ... a reduction by only ten points a game would really help our cause.
Howden is a good player and I would also be working on using a kicking game more for territory.
Yes I know the coach will be doing this already, but more is needed.
That is about all we can do, dig in.
I would show the lads a video of Warrington's win against Saints.
That was great defence and great kicking for the connoisseur.
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| I agree with a lot of what's been said on here. I love rugby. I watch every Super League game on Sky, watched every Summer Bash match at Blackpool, and I'll never give up on the Dons. I'm in my late 50s and hope to get at least another 20 seasons in!
Why do we all feel the way we feel?
Firstly, we had some success, which in the great scheme of things has been rare for Dons fans over the years. We reached 4th position in the Championship. With optimism at a high due to the stability provided by Club Doncaster, and their stated aims to do their best to get us into Super League, the future looked bright.
We recruited very poorly for the 2015 season and under-estimated the strength of the opposition. Even though we had the coach of the year, we got drubbed on a regular basis.
What would constitute success for the fans in 2016? The side would need to have a serious chance of finishing top or second, with us getting promoted. Getting out of this league at the first attempt was a must. As things stand, we're probably the fourth best team in the league with Toulouse, Rochdale and York ahead of us.
In the end of season play-offs, Toulouse or Rochdale will probably get the first promotion place, the loser will then join York, Dons and possible Keighley in the fight for the other promotion place. As we're likely to be 4th or 5th, it'll mean we'll be away in the semi-final. We'll be underdogs, and then be underdogs if we got to the final. I can't realistically rate our chances of going up at any better than 6 to 1.
This is why we feel despondent as a group. We aren't a serious threat. And if we did go up, we'd need wholesale changes to have any chance at all of staying up.
Next season, Championship One doesn't look appetising as Toronto will be the Toulouse of the division, and we'll be getting Workington plus one from Sheffield, Dewsbury, Whitehaven and Oldham joining us. It's going to be a whole lot harder to get promoted next season than this.
All-in-all, there's not a great deal for us to get excited about. Recruitment has let us down yet again as we haven't got a team that is good enough to compete with the best in the division. We'll probably never know whether this is because other clubs have bigger budgets than us or whether their recruitment is smarter than ours. All we do know is that for whatever reasons, we're not getting it right.
Simply put, the fans feel despondent because the team isn't as good as we hoped it would be.
Unlike last season, it's hard to fault the effort of the players. They're trying hard and doing their best but they're physically not big enough or strong enough to stop other teams from scoring.
The structure of this league is a separate issue but it doesn't help. The teams in our league have played 9 league games. The Championship have played 15 games and the Super League have played 17. The structure must be changed for next season as it's nothing short of awful.
I really hope we can defy the odds and get out of this division this season or else we could find ourselves stuck in it for a few more seasons.
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| Quote ="rugblyman".
I could accept our current position if we were still under the previous ownership led by Carl.
I am wondering if our squad just isn't good enough or do we need a change of coaching staff, I don't know the answer, I know I'm getting tired of our current position .'"
Obviously there as been some gross mismanagement at the club since season 2014
2014 Finished Fourth in the Championship
2015 Finished Twelfth in the Championship & were relegated to League One
Why did the management team & directors allow this to happen?
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| It's not all doom and gloom. Donny played well yesterday but were up against a better team. The Donny kids look good and GT should be allowed at least another season to improve this squad and add to it. They just about matched full-timers Toulouse for fitness and the game plan, especially in the second half was superb. This bunch of kids will improve if given time. There's no quick fix method at this level.
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| Quote ="sanjunien"It's not all doom and gloom. Donny played well yesterday but were up against a better team. The Donny kids look good and GT should be allowed at least another season to improve this squad and add to it. They just about matched full-timers Toulouse for fitness and the game plan, especially in the second half was superb. This bunch of kids will improve if given time. There's no quick fix method at this level.'"
The problem with this is, and it has been pointed out many times, we don't keep the cream, we don't keep or can't keep what's good about this side.
So the idea that things will get better next season given this side just doesn't happen in reality.
It will be another half squad of newcomers and another half season before we click.
Apart from Doncaster being our club, our squad could belong, with a few faithful exceptions, to anyone.
There is little of Donny in the Dons, same as there is little of local developed talent in lots of clubs.
Howden is not ours to get excited about, nor is Tali etc.
We can't bank on them on them stopping.
Such is the nature of RL, one-club players are in a small minority.
That lack of continuity is for me the biggest turn-off in RL.
You think you have a good side in the offing and it's off!
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