Donny, I'm not pointing the finger at anyone specifically. If Jordon can't get any news to post then the problem must lie elsewhere. I'm commenting on what I see as a fan.

We've had very little or no news about injuries and team selections this season. It would be nice to see the 19-man squads that have to be announced 48 hours before the games are being played. The attendance figures at the matches are no longer being announced, and I'm having to read the Hull Daily Mail website to learn what's happening at the Dons, which shouldn't be the case.

[iWith respect to the club, these are basic issues and not things that need time to sort.[/i

On a wider scale, at times like this, when supporter morale is low, we need more reassurances coming out from the Dons, and Club Doncaster, that the issues being raised on here are being listened to.

Other fans will be thinking the same as posters on here. It's not just a matter of believing we're a few fans and we don't matter. This forum is a barometer of feeling of all rugby supporters in Doncaster. The club have an opportunity to address the issues raised and should take that opportunity, or else they'll run the risk of isolating people and losing them.

[iI would really like to see someone from the club posting on here on a regular basis, to keep us informed and answer our questions.[/i

I think some people from the club have posted directly in this thread already but not using their real names...only a hunch tho cannot prove anything without access to IP address information and the like.

If somebody from the club is posting on here, then what have they got to gain from hiding their identity, I believe in the past we have had family members of players posting on here but as all been positive, obviously they will defend that player when criticised.
I agree at this moment in time with poor results on the field it is essential to provide greater off field communication to give fans some hope the club are working to improve the situation.

Surely we can take it as red that the club are trying to improve the situation, wouldn't think for one minute anyone is happy with the start we've made, but its only three games in and we have been close in two of them. Leigh on Sunday?, not many will beat them. As for info regarding team selection, injuries etc, yes I agree could be better.

Huddersfield & Cas are in the same boat at the minute . no wins from 3.

We probably tend to forget but when we feel down about a defeat, the players and all at the club will feel the same way, or almost certainly worse.

They put their necks on the line. We watch the game for fun. Even during the grim times at Tattersfield, I never forgot that fact and it's not going to slip my mind now. Loads of respect to the players regardless of the results.

Just for the record I have no issue with any of the players who are Donny players (heck I work in the same building as two of them) I think the crux of my issue is that some players are not getting a chance and we do seem to be at the beck and call of Hull FC.

My thoughts on some of the points raised / discussed;

The G Baldwin statement ... Presented as it has been is definitely a PR-error as it can be read that any money made by the Dons (if indeed there is any) would be to help Paul Dickov with his transfer targets. Rovers supporters might quite like the idea, Dons supporters would not. An immediate division in Club Doncaster.

The increased player budget ... we don't really know the facts so this is a difficult one but I concur with those who don't particularly see a vast difference to last season's playing squad, other than a number of youngsters who seem unlikely to get any game-time.

Dual Reg ... I have really mixed emotions about this. Lets be absolutely honest, last season's league placing was certainly helped by the players who came over from Hull. So far this season, it just isn't working for some reason although that's not to say that it won't ultimately. I would certainly prefer that we got a small number of players and kept them for more than a couple of games at a time but this seems unlikely.

Communications from the Club ... this clearly is a concern for a number of supporters and whilst I for one accept that not everything is for the public domain, there are some pieces of information which aren't being presented which clearly could be (match attendances for example have been mentioned).

All that said, we are [usupporters[/u and now is the time to get behind the Club and the players, starting with Sunday's very tricky looking fixture against Leigh.

COYD.

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Re rugbymans post I said roughly the same thing in my first post on here , while I don't enjoy the present situation , we have to put faith in Carl am sure he don't want all his hard work over the past four yer to go down the pan he has faith and so should the fans , the only thing I would suggest is that we could start building for next season now with experienced players Paul has said that this season is probably his last why not invest in the experienced half back that we will need when he do hang up his boots ,believe me the only thing lacking in the team right now is confidence

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Hi Titanic Don, please take note it was Rugblyman who posted and not Rugbyman. The names are very similar.

Looks like if you have anything positive to say about the team you must work for the club .I often read the posts on this forum but don't get involved its the same old thing season after season moan moan moan is all you get from some people on here

I don't work for the club but I have plenty of positive things to say on here. But that doesn't exclude me from being critical when I think criticism is due. My aim is to try to be constructive with the points I raise in order to help the club move forwards (if anyone from the club is reading or taking notice).

I enjoy reading the views of others whether I agree with them or not.

It's only natural that this forum will have a wide range of views and opinions but in my view that is a good thing. I prefer to read posts with constructive, positive slants, but those who have negative things to say may be doing so with validity.

The one thing we probably all have in common is that we want the Dons to be successful which is why we should all consider ourselves to be on the same side, even though we're offering contrasting opinions on various matters.

Crazylegs, please keep posting because we need more opinions and contributors on here.

Funny isn't it I never mentioned any names but somebody instantly jumped on the defensive.....

Like DM I want the best for the Dons and I have my right to my opinion as you do to ours we dont have to agree in fact I'd say a lot of people disagree with my views, so may agree its all part of this wonderful concept we call free will.

I do find it odd tho that no one "official" has jumped on here to quash the rumors and disquiet among the paying supporters...and to give us some news that might help lighten the gloom after a series of losses and in some cases ineffectual performances spanning back to last season.

We get very little "news" out the club as others have mentioned they are having to rely on the Hull Daily Mail for information about our team for the weekend which does tell me there are some "issues" regarding communication.

On an unrelated issue I am still shocked by the clubs decision to partner up with an education establishment outside of its home town area and completely ignore the one in town where TWO of its playing staff ply their full time jobs. That is maybe an issue for another time, but for me its just another in a series of "own goals" regarding engaging the people of Doncaster in the world of the Dons.

How to shut down conversation ... call someone a moaner.
You don't have to actually have anything to say as long as you can call someone a moaner, you have the high ground.
In any discussion if you can stick a label on someone, you're half way there to winning it.

The simple observable fact is that when things are going smoothly, very little is posted apart from a few complimentary efforts and basic info swapping.

When things are going badly, more is posted, because anger is more of an incentive to react.

A series of issues lately have compounded a feeling of discontent, matters on and off the field.

I defy anyone to back up that all you get from some posters is moan, moan and moan.
Look at last season, there was next to nothing posted on here that was negative, and this from the same pool of posters.
This pool as a bulk of posters that post both positive and negative things.
I don't know of one poster, even me, who posts only negative things.

So people who imply that some people on here are all moan, moan, moan are talking out of their backside or only look for the negative stuff.

And yes anyone who comes on here with only a few posts behind them and gives it some 'attitude' is immediately suspected ,rightly or wrongly, of having a club association, usually a relative or friend of one of the players.

People post and comment on the observable, good when it's good and bad when it's bad.
And that is all there is to it.

Nobody who posts on here is NOT a Dons fans.
They just wouldn't bother otherwise.
They would toddle off to some chat forum instead.

Too right, peoples motives are questioned too often on here

People spend more time worrying about why someone is writing something rather than what someone is writing. Whether it is because they're a moaner, or too positive, or a player, or a coach etc doesn't matter. Get over it. We want info from people at the club then get suspicious that someone might be from the club, so no one wins. I stopped asking questions of the club and posting responses on here cause the hassle that came with it wasn't worth the benefit.

So stop moaning about it S-O

I should really strip this thread of anything that isn't about the Workington game

You'd get hassle if you did that too.
Plus what hassle did YOU ever really get .... seriously?

Plus if you are going to use your executive powers ... shift it to a thread called malcontents and moaners.
Then nobody would ever post on it and we would all live happily ever after! .....lol

Stand offish I maint be wrong but is it you who's always going on about leaving at half time when we aren't playing well . Have you been in contact with the club to see if they will do you a special season ticket that only let's you watch the 1st half of games

That's no good to me now though, I have to stop the entire game, so I can watch the Egulls show us how it's done later ...

Have fun with that ...rather you than me

moaning, moaning, if you wanna here moaning you should hear my Mrs when shes tied to the bed,,,oooops wrong forum. Right I personaly think that all that can be said about the season so far HAS BEEN SAID, think we should all move on, This Sunday Im hoping for a team full of DONNY players a big effort from the team lots of chanting from the Dons faithfull and win lose or draw as long as the team management and fans give 100% thats all that matters. Anyway off back upstairs to practice my knots, COYDs.

It gets my goat no we arnt having a good start to the season we didn't in 2013 either with 9 losses but we still finished 6th through the teams hard work and determination so let's just give the team and coaching staff a bit of slack we might feel bad but they will feel 10 x worse I don't like how we've started either nd we will more than likely lose sunday badly but there after onwards and upwards ..

COYD

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Nodding on the parcel shelf?