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| All in all yesterday was a bad day at the office.You should show a little more faith in a good side that are 2nd in league at half way point only dropping 6 points to both teams that still have to come to doncaster,now is the time to get behind the lads not on their backs.Danny Cowling has a open compound fracture and dislocated left index finger.
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| Quote ="DRAGONFAN"Quote ="donny hkr"These players are not full time pro with all the training and conditioning etc that is bestowed upon them. They do it part time in between holding down a full time job in most cases. They appear to have held up well in the games i have seen at the keepmoat, using a wide pitch to full advantage.'"
I realise that, but they should be as fit as they possibly can be and if they are they would be [uFully Fit[/u wouldn't they?
Are you suggesting that we should only [uexpect [/uReasonable Fitness from the Lads?'" No course not, perhaps reasonably wasa bad word choice, i fail to see how we can be bulling up the Dons bemoaning that not enough people are coming to watch this fantastic rugby, and they are not getting the press they deserve, then after one defeat, a bad one yes, they are suddenly an unfit side. Attitude may have been wrong, as was suggested by someone in an earlier post, and i agree that they sometimes lose concentration, but could it be something as simple as we were beaten by a better team on the day
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| Totally agree with you newdon. Everybody knew that the cumbrian away games would be the most difficult ones. Workington are a very good side and the home advantage obviously added to confidence. With regards to fitness i dont think that played any part in losing the match. We were just well beaten by a better side on the day. When cowling went off there wasnt another sub to be brought on. That cant have made the task any easier. Hope danny gets well soon!
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| For fans that were there, it was not the defeat that bothered us it was they way the team got defeated. We were not in the game for 60 minutes and that is not good enough.
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| I have to agree with rugbyman. I wouldn't have minded if we lost and got a bonus point. Instead of just driving the ball in, trying to get repeat ball, and possession which would have meant we were controlling the game, we were trying to force passes, and this gifted the ball to Workington. This just gave Workington more and more momentum. With each attack they got more and more confident and their pack just steamrolled us.
Modern Rugby League is all about momentum. It is why we have been able to score 40 points over the last 8 games previously.
This is the third time now where when the game started going away from us, the heads dropped off and we ended up with a hiding. Barrow and Bradford were the same. Because we were loosing some player(s) could not be bothered. That is the worry, those player(s) who don't want to do the hard graft and are bothered all about the "me".
On the plus side I think we have the fastest winger in the division. Tom Hodson's covering tackle on Calderwood was superb. Not many wingers have the speed to do that.
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| Quote ="originaldragon"
On the plus side I think we have the fastest winger in the division. Tom Hodson's covering tackle on Calderwood was superb. Not many wingers have the speed to do that.'"
Especially when Calderwood had a start on him as well.
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| The surport some of you so called fans give the lads is not good enough.workys off loads yesterday all went to hand and they had the rub of the green,the ball jst didt bounce our way the effort and committment WAS there and the lads are hurting after the defeat.Leave judgement untill the end of season and accept we wont win every game.The lads dont take losing ligthly either.
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| Quote ="Newdon"The surport some of you so called fans give the lads is not good enough..'"
That's fine--and your entitled to your opinion.
The performance given by the team yesterday was not good enough (they are better than that) and that's my opinion.
[uDefinition of forum[/u:
place used for debates in which anyone can participate and give their opinions
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| Quote ="Newdon"Quote The surport some of you so called fans give the lads is not good enough'" .workys off loads yesterday all went to hand and they had the rub of the green,the ball jst didt bounce our way the effort and committment WAS there and the lads are hurting after the defeat.Leave judgement untill the end of season and accept we wont win every game.The lads dont take losing ligthly either.'"
I take it you went to the game yesterday then??? the so called fans(as you put us) maybe would not have travelled for 7 hours and SUPPORTED our team and who will be travelling to North Wales next week. So your ' SO CALLED FANS' comment is in my opinion is pathetic
They got more of the rub of the green because they were offloading in tackles when our defence was not good enough to do the man on man tackles, we were slower at the play of the ball.
The reason why us so called fans comment is because of our love for the club and not to watch the team fade away and be steamrolled by another team in our division.
As mentioned earlier it was not the defeat that bothered the fans, it was the way we were defeated.
Regards
A so called fan
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| Quote ="Newdon"The surport some of you so called fans give the lads is not good enough.workys off loads yesterday all went to hand and they had the rub of the green,the ball jst didt bounce our way the effort and committment WAS there and the lads are hurting after the defeat.Leave judgement untill the end of season and accept we wont win every game.The lads dont take losing ligthly either.'"
You post as though you are connected with the club in some way or are close to the players.
If you are please say so.
Because we have had this questioning our support before from people connected with the club.
This is a fans forum, not a club forum, although they are welcome to post.
WE ARE THE FANS!!!
Our support is not good enough?
That's rich is that!
Try traveling to Cumbria with high expectations and watch the shoite that's been dished up.
Fair play the Cumbrian clubs are decent sides and we were never going to have an easy ride. No supporter expected that.
I for one thought we would lose all the Cumbrian games, but I did expect us to compete.
Competing can be defined as being near or achieving a bonus point in defeat.
We expect that from a side at the top of the table.
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| Rugbyman if the cap fits wear it yes i was at the game and will be next week we got beat by a better team on the day who had better luck with there off loading than us but effort and committment was there from the players if you can do any better get a pair of boots on and show us otherwise lay off the lads and try giving them a bit more surrport instead of slating them
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| Quote ="Newdon"Rugbyman if the cap fits wear it yes i was at the game and will be next week we got beat by a better team on the day who had better luck with there off loading than us but effort and committment was there from the players if you can do any better get a pair of boots on and show us otherwise lay off the lads and try giving them a bit more surrport instead of slating them'"
What happened to Cowling?
He has a compound fracture of what? A leg, an arm?
Was it pivotal in altering the game?
PS If you're a better fan than Baz you're a gud 'un!
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| Quote ="Newdon"Rugbyman if the cap fits wear it yes i was at the game and will be next week we got beat by a better team on the day who had better luck with there off loading than us but effort and committment was there from the players if you can do any better get a pair of boots on and show us otherwise lay off the lads and try giving them a bit more surrport instead of slating them'"
I don't think Barry is being too critical.
For 19 minutes, we were in the game. We scored 3 very good tries, and once Workington started scoring, it appeared from my point of view that some players heads dropped. As a result of that, efforts seemed to drop, and Workington exploited the gaps that were left.
I can understand what you're saying, but I can understand the frustrations of the fans.
Hopefully, normal service will be resumed in Wrexham next Sunday.
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| Quote ="Stand-Offish"What happened to Cowling?
He has a compound fracture of what? A leg, an arm?
Was it pivotal in altering the game?
PS If you're a better fan than Baz you're a gud 'un!'"
Compound fracture of the index finger on the left hand. We were already 36-18 down at the time.
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| Nice post stand-offish from someone who didnt travel to worky,and if you bother to read the posts i told you earlier about Danny. LEFT INDEXT FINGER
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| Quote ="Newdon"Nice post stand-offish from someone who didnt travel to worky,and if you bother to read the posts i told you earlier about Danny. LEFT INDEXT FINGER'"
You posted this .... Quote Cowling has a open compound fracture and dislocated left index finger.'"
That could have meant he had a compound fracture of some other part of his body AND a dislocated index finger.
Now answer the question. Are you connected with the club or a friend of one or more of the players?
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| Quote ="Stand-Offish"You post as though you are connected with the club in some way or are close to the players.
If you are please say so.'"
I'll go for the latter (educated guess).
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| Quote ="Stand-Offish"You posted this ....That could have meant he had a compound fracture of some other part of his body AND a dislocated index finger.'"
[url=https://t.co/ey3GcytQThis[/url was posted on Twitter last night, for those who don't want to know, its Danny Cowlings finger post match.. (don't click on it if you are squeamish in any way)
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Now answer the question. Are you connected with the club or a friend of one or more of the players?'"
I've a feeling Newdon is the latter, but we don't really need to alienate anyone with some of our questioning.
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| Quote ="Donny"[url=https://t.co/ey3GcytQThis[/url was posted on Twitter last night, for those who don't want to know, its Danny Cowlings finger post match.. (don't click on it if you are squeamish in any way)
I've a feeling Newdon is the latter, but we don't really need to alienate anyone with some of our questioning.'"
Oh!, you mean like he did?
That's a nasty injury alright.
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| Quote ="Newdon"The surport some of you so called fans give the lads is not good enough.workys off loads yesterday all went to hand and they had the rub of the green,the ball jst didt bounce our way the effort and committment WAS there and the lads are hurting after the defeat.Leave judgement untill the end of season and accept we wont win every game.The lads dont take losing ligthly either.'"
I dont know which game you were watching but we didnt score 45 unanswered points (missing several kicks and being held up over the line 3 times, with 2 more disallowed) by the rub of the green. To say that is very disingenuous, you were well beaten on the day and I can understand why some of your fellow fans are questioning certain players commitment because once we went ahead quite a few of your players just seemed to give up.
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| Two defeats in Cumbria (heavy I grant you) does not define the sodding season. It puts Barrow and Workington on joint pole position and they deserve to be there cos they have beaten us. Good few games to go and they will come to the Keepmoat expecting to get at the very least a bonus point. If as Newdon says the players are hurting then all we ask is to carry that hurt into the replays and give it back to em. Workington and Barrow are obviously very good sides on their own turf, however we are not so bad ourselves at home. I am guilty of not supporting away from home like Rugbyman and DF and the rest of a very loyal and supportive bunch of people, so be careful calling folk when it is quite appararent Newdon you appear to know very little about this group of supporters.They have stuck with this club through bloody horrible times and and terrible uncertainty. We are in the best situation for years, the best rugby for years and when they get served up what they call lack of attitude they have every right to say so. I respect that because I know them and they would not print it if they didn't witness it. End of rant and lets get the show back on the road.
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| Newdon I can tell you , this group of fans are unbelievable and have stuck with the club through thick and thin, they are also very knowledgeable and passionate about the game and their club, this entitles them to their opinion, even if you don't agree with it. If you pay your money then you have the right to cast your view as you see it. Our Performance was not good enough but it will be how we respond next week against North Wales that we should be judged on. Coyd
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| I think your expression at the end of thevgame said it all.
Topic ended now?
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| Quote ="originaldragon"I think your expression at the end of thevgame said it all.
Topic ended now?'"
Yeah let's lock it and move on.
Disappointment only lasts for so long.
No use such as me raking it all over.
The danger is we take it out on each other, which nobody wants.
COYD
Will we be looking to get a replacement for Cowling while he is recovering? Or will we make do?
PS It would be nice for DonsNews to post some updates for us.
I know you are busy, but it would help.
Cheers.
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| Just wanted to put something on before the thread gets locked!
Everyone who has commented up to now has made valid points.The top and bottom of it was that Worky wanted it more. The key part of the match was after 20 mins when Whitehead and Thackery came on and it totally changed the game. Also what nobody else has commented on is that I thought Calderwood was superb.He was all over the pitch on the right wing one minute then running at the left side the next causing all sorts of problems.
As someone else has said it did look like we were blowing out of our ar$es for the last 30mins. Worky could have and should have scored well over the 50 mark if it wasnt for good goalline defence by some of our lads.
I was very disappointed at the end of the game and left as soon as the siren went.Its not like me as Im one of the regulars who stay until the team walk off but I didnt feel the lads deserved the clap off. Looking back I was wrong as I know the lads try their best and dont want to lose heavy.But it was the manner of the defeat which upset me as we seemed to just roll over and let Worky completely dominate down the middle.
Pick your heads up lads and lets get back to winning ways on Sunday.
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