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| I remember watching wigan surrender a 20 nil half time advantage at bradford not so long ago, so it can happen to the best. Good sides show their ability to bounce back from setbacks, thats what the Dons need to do now. As for fitness, i agreed with you at the time about one or two looking like they could drop a pound or two, not all i have to say, but since then i think they have shown enough to show they are reasonably fit.
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| Quote ="donny hkr" i agreed with you at the time about one or two looking like they could drop a pound or two, not all i have to say, but since then i think they have shown enough to show they are reasonably fit.'"
[uReasonably Fit[/u
To be honest i didn't travel to Workey to watch a [uReasonably Fit [/uTeam
And I suggest neither would Tony.
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| Quote ="DRAGONFAN"Reasonably Fit
Is that good enough?'"
These players are not full time pro with all the training and conditioning etc that is bestowed upon them. They do it part time in between holding down a full time job in most cases. They appear to have held up well in the games i have seen at the keepmoat, using a wide pitch to full advantage.
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| Quote ="donny hkr"These players are not full time pro with all the training and conditioning etc that is bestowed upon them. They do it part time in between holding down a full time job in most cases. They appear to have held up well in the games i have seen at the keepmoat, using a wide pitch to full advantage.'"
I realise that, but they should be as fit as they possibly can be and if they are they would be [uFully Fit[/u wouldn't they?
Are you suggesting that we should only [uexpect [/uReasonable Fitness from the Lads?
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| All in all yesterday was a bad day at the office.You should show a little more faith in a good side that are 2nd in league at half way point only dropping 6 points to both teams that still have to come to doncaster,now is the time to get behind the lads not on their backs.Danny Cowling has a open compound fracture and dislocated left index finger.
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| Quote ="DRAGONFAN"Quote ="donny hkr"These players are not full time pro with all the training and conditioning etc that is bestowed upon them. They do it part time in between holding down a full time job in most cases. They appear to have held up well in the games i have seen at the keepmoat, using a wide pitch to full advantage.'"
I realise that, but they should be as fit as they possibly can be and if they are they would be [uFully Fit[/u wouldn't they?
Are you suggesting that we should only [uexpect [/uReasonable Fitness from the Lads?'" No course not, perhaps reasonably wasa bad word choice, i fail to see how we can be bulling up the Dons bemoaning that not enough people are coming to watch this fantastic rugby, and they are not getting the press they deserve, then after one defeat, a bad one yes, they are suddenly an unfit side. Attitude may have been wrong, as was suggested by someone in an earlier post, and i agree that they sometimes lose concentration, but could it be something as simple as we were beaten by a better team on the day
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| Totally agree with you newdon. Everybody knew that the cumbrian away games would be the most difficult ones. Workington are a very good side and the home advantage obviously added to confidence. With regards to fitness i dont think that played any part in losing the match. We were just well beaten by a better side on the day. When cowling went off there wasnt another sub to be brought on. That cant have made the task any easier. Hope danny gets well soon!
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| For fans that were there, it was not the defeat that bothered us it was they way the team got defeated. We were not in the game for 60 minutes and that is not good enough.
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| I have to agree with rugbyman. I wouldn't have minded if we lost and got a bonus point. Instead of just driving the ball in, trying to get repeat ball, and possession which would have meant we were controlling the game, we were trying to force passes, and this gifted the ball to Workington. This just gave Workington more and more momentum. With each attack they got more and more confident and their pack just steamrolled us.
Modern Rugby League is all about momentum. It is why we have been able to score 40 points over the last 8 games previously.
This is the third time now where when the game started going away from us, the heads dropped off and we ended up with a hiding. Barrow and Bradford were the same. Because we were loosing some player(s) could not be bothered. That is the worry, those player(s) who don't want to do the hard graft and are bothered all about the "me".
On the plus side I think we have the fastest winger in the division. Tom Hodson's covering tackle on Calderwood was superb. Not many wingers have the speed to do that.
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| Quote ="originaldragon"
On the plus side I think we have the fastest winger in the division. Tom Hodson's covering tackle on Calderwood was superb. Not many wingers have the speed to do that.'"
Especially when Calderwood had a start on him as well.
Anyway...
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| The surport some of you so called fans give the lads is not good enough.workys off loads yesterday all went to hand and they had the rub of the green,the ball jst didt bounce our way the effort and committment WAS there and the lads are hurting after the defeat.Leave judgement untill the end of season and accept we wont win every game.The lads dont take losing ligthly either.
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| Quote ="Newdon"The surport some of you so called fans give the lads is not good enough..'"
That's fine--and your entitled to your opinion.
The performance given by the team yesterday was not good enough (they are better than that) and that's my opinion.
[uDefinition of forum[/u:
place used for debates in which anyone can participate and give their opinions
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| Quote ="Newdon"Quote The surport some of you so called fans give the lads is not good enough'" .workys off loads yesterday all went to hand and they had the rub of the green,the ball jst didt bounce our way the effort and committment WAS there and the lads are hurting after the defeat.Leave judgement untill the end of season and accept we wont win every game.The lads dont take losing ligthly either.'"
I take it you went to the game yesterday then??? the so called fans(as you put us) maybe would not have travelled for 7 hours and SUPPORTED our team and who will be travelling to North Wales next week. So your ' SO CALLED FANS' comment is in my opinion is pathetic
They got more of the rub of the green because they were offloading in tackles when our defence was not good enough to do the man on man tackles, we were slower at the play of the ball.
The reason why us so called fans comment is because of our love for the club and not to watch the team fade away and be steamrolled by another team in our division.
As mentioned earlier it was not the defeat that bothered the fans, it was the way we were defeated.
Regards
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| Quote ="Newdon"The surport some of you so called fans give the lads is not good enough.workys off loads yesterday all went to hand and they had the rub of the green,the ball jst didt bounce our way the effort and committment WAS there and the lads are hurting after the defeat.Leave judgement untill the end of season and accept we wont win every game.The lads dont take losing ligthly either.'"
You post as though you are connected with the club in some way or are close to the players.
If you are please say so.
Because we have had this questioning our support before from people connected with the club.
This is a fans forum, not a club forum, although they are welcome to post.
WE ARE THE FANS!!!
Our support is not good enough?
That's rich is that!
Try traveling to Cumbria with high expectations and watch the shoite that's been dished up.
Fair play the Cumbrian clubs are decent sides and we were never going to have an easy ride. No supporter expected that.
I for one thought we would lose all the Cumbrian games, but I did expect us to compete.
Competing can be defined as being near or achieving a bonus point in defeat.
We expect that from a side at the top of the table.
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| Rugbyman if the cap fits wear it yes i was at the game and will be next week we got beat by a better team on the day who had better luck with there off loading than us but effort and committment was there from the players if you can do any better get a pair of boots on and show us otherwise lay off the lads and try giving them a bit more surrport instead of slating them
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| Quote ="Newdon"Rugbyman if the cap fits wear it yes i was at the game and will be next week we got beat by a better team on the day who had better luck with there off loading than us but effort and committment was there from the players if you can do any better get a pair of boots on and show us otherwise lay off the lads and try giving them a bit more surrport instead of slating them'"
What happened to Cowling?
He has a compound fracture of what? A leg, an arm?
Was it pivotal in altering the game?
PS If you're a better fan than Baz you're a gud 'un!
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| Quote ="Newdon"Rugbyman if the cap fits wear it yes i was at the game and will be next week we got beat by a better team on the day who had better luck with there off loading than us but effort and committment was there from the players if you can do any better get a pair of boots on and show us otherwise lay off the lads and try giving them a bit more surrport instead of slating them'"
I don't think Barry is being too critical.
For 19 minutes, we were in the game. We scored 3 very good tries, and once Workington started scoring, it appeared from my point of view that some players heads dropped. As a result of that, efforts seemed to drop, and Workington exploited the gaps that were left.
I can understand what you're saying, but I can understand the frustrations of the fans.
Hopefully, normal service will be resumed in Wrexham next Sunday.
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| Quote ="Stand-Offish"What happened to Cowling?
He has a compound fracture of what? A leg, an arm?
Was it pivotal in altering the game?
PS If you're a better fan than Baz you're a gud 'un!'"
Compound fracture of the index finger on the left hand. We were already 36-18 down at the time.
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| Nice post stand-offish from someone who didnt travel to worky,and if you bother to read the posts i told you earlier about Danny. LEFT INDEXT FINGER
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| Quote ="Newdon"Nice post stand-offish from someone who didnt travel to worky,and if you bother to read the posts i told you earlier about Danny. LEFT INDEXT FINGER'"
You posted this .... Quote Cowling has a open compound fracture and dislocated left index finger.'"
That could have meant he had a compound fracture of some other part of his body AND a dislocated index finger.
Now answer the question. Are you connected with the club or a friend of one or more of the players?
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| Quote ="Stand-Offish"You post as though you are connected with the club in some way or are close to the players.
If you are please say so.'"
I'll go for the latter (educated guess).
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| Quote ="Stand-Offish"You posted this ....That could have meant he had a compound fracture of some other part of his body AND a dislocated index finger.'"
[url=https://t.co/ey3GcytQThis[/url was posted on Twitter last night, for those who don't want to know, its Danny Cowlings finger post match.. (don't click on it if you are squeamish in any way)
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Now answer the question. Are you connected with the club or a friend of one or more of the players?'"
I've a feeling Newdon is the latter, but we don't really need to alienate anyone with some of our questioning.
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| Quote ="Donny"[url=https://t.co/ey3GcytQThis[/url was posted on Twitter last night, for those who don't want to know, its Danny Cowlings finger post match.. (don't click on it if you are squeamish in any way)
I've a feeling Newdon is the latter, but we don't really need to alienate anyone with some of our questioning.'"
Oh!, you mean like he did?
That's a nasty injury alright.
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| Quote ="Newdon"The surport some of you so called fans give the lads is not good enough.workys off loads yesterday all went to hand and they had the rub of the green,the ball jst didt bounce our way the effort and committment WAS there and the lads are hurting after the defeat.Leave judgement untill the end of season and accept we wont win every game.The lads dont take losing ligthly either.'"
I dont know which game you were watching but we didnt score 45 unanswered points (missing several kicks and being held up over the line 3 times, with 2 more disallowed) by the rub of the green. To say that is very disingenuous, you were well beaten on the day and I can understand why some of your fellow fans are questioning certain players commitment because once we went ahead quite a few of your players just seemed to give up.
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