or whatever it was, OK friday night with a high profile SL clash, but this is worrying, and like I said in a post the other day, we won't add onto to that figure IMHO. We'll be lucky to match tonight's gate next week

It will probably be the highest attendance in the Northern rail cup this week.
Did Oldham bring a few? They brought more than i thought to the LSV in our friendly and all made them selves heard.

somewhere between 30 - 100 Oldham fans turned up.. Supported their team well

We'd be singing from the rooftops if we got those kind of attendances for that type of match. I don't understand your post at all.

We got 3.5k for a Wednesday night NRC game against Barrow(reserves) last year.

There has been significant debate at Widnes over the effect that;

a) Change of game day to Friday/Saturday,

b) Credit Crunch,

c) Franchising (and the resultant meaningless games),

is going to have on our crowds this season.

Initial indications (including a recent announcement that 30% of last years season ticket holders have not renewed) are suggesting that we are looking at a 25% decrease which, as the opening poster suggests, is worrying.

ps After last night I think we can add disappointing performances to the above list aswell

Yet suddenly many people can't make it for night matches.I appreciate it is difficult for some to travel and get back home at a reasonable time but I get the impression that a lot of people can quite easily get to the game if they wanted to but are using the switch to Friday nights as a convenient excuse not to go.

I cant remember but did your fans get a say whilst you switch games to a fri nite ? In SL i can understand the switch its down to 1 thing CORPRATE the people who have a meal/box its money sadley nothing to do with fans.

No,we didn't get a say in it.I am against Friday night games myself but that won't stop me from going along to support the team.Others,who live some distance away and/or have work commitments,cannot make it.Then there are the fickle fans who can easily make it but can't be d.
An evening KO didn't stop 3500 people turning up against Barrow last year.

to discuss what they can do collectively to improve attendances , income and profile of the competitions they contest

I understand that Widnes are the favourites to get the 2012 SL spot up for grabs but until all the clubs make a ' leap of faith ' on the issues outside of the 80 minutes on the pitch , no clubs will ever move forward

All the best

I agree that the attendances are a little disappointing, Im sure we budgetted for around 3000 home fans plus the small away following. And looking at the fixtures only Leigh and Fax will bring fairly decent numbers with them.

Re: Friday night games, we're actually playing more Saturday evening games (7 to 5 on a Friday), I did enjoy last night but given the choice, I like SL Friday and Saturday on TV and Widnes on a Sunday.

Not sure where you heard that mate but you won't find too many Widnes fans holding their breath.

Yes you have been shat upon more than most in the past and it could happen again

But whether you lot believe it or not , you are the next best bet for SL

But the point I was making was that to prosper individually all clubs need to work collectively

Until that happens nobody is big enough to make massive strides and if one club could , the rest would suffer , and as we are not SL then hopefully we do actually give a stuff about each others clubs

Notwithstanding the fact that it was baltic for the best part of the week. My little thripny bits were throbbing.



Being labelled favourites means nothing. The first box to be ticked is a grand final appearance this season and make sure that we follow it up again next season. I for one will show my in B&M's if we get a spot in 2012.

I'm going to remember this.

Is there a B&M's in Widnes?

Where Woolies was

Mmmmm perhaps I was a bit hasty

Yes mozz were the old woolys was...



Some bargins there...

ha we used to have a field day in St Helens B&M's every thursday after finishing college at 1pm, cheap as chips.

you used to have only 8,800 in 88/89! when you were the best. so to get 3,000 in national league 1 is ok

In fairness frisky we havent done too badly for a town of no more than 60000.

3701 were at the stadium tonight to watch Liverpool and Everton reserves.. !

They got nearly 9000 once. People stopped going when they realised it is as dull as dishwater.

I'd say this is quite negative and exaggerated too.

I wouldn't say 2700 was drastic and I'd suggest the season ticket sales are about 15% down. The club stated over 70% had renewed and another 350 were new season ticket holders. From recollection we have somewhere between 2-2500 ST holders.

You can pick the Barrow game as an example but you could have picked the Leigh game in the NR cup last year which just got over 4000. Probably just as disappointing, Oldham aren't the team they were and are an NL2 side. We also played Sheffield and got 2200, which is much worse.

Crowds are likely to be down this year for whatever reason. We just have to keep them at a reasonable level.

I'd say this is quite negative and exaggerated too.

I wouldn't say 2700 was drastic and I'd suggest the season ticket sales are about 15% down. The club stated over 70% had renewed and another 350 were new season ticket holders. From recollection we have somewhere between 2-2500 ST holders.

You can pick the Barrow game as an example but you could have picked the Leigh game in the NR cup last year which just got over 4000. Probably just as disappointing, Oldham aren't the team they were and are an NL2 side. We also played Sheffield and got 2200, which is much worse.

Crowds are likely to be down this year for whatever reason. We just have to keep them at a reasonable level.