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| Quote ="soss"I'm not bigging up Barrow or slagging off the franchise system, however where are you going to find the additional £1,200,000.00 to pay for your new team when you are calling for fans to pay for one of your top players wages for next season to keep him?
Just a simple question......'"
and how many times does it have to be said.. Its not that we can't afford to keep him.. its the salary cap.. At the end of the day, Us fans don't have to contribute.. We WANT to contribute..
Also, any additional money could easily come from sky, more sponsorships or even the back pocket of Steve o'connor..
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| Quote ="Epix"and how many times does it have to be said.. Its not that we can't afford to keep him.. its the salary cap.. At the end of the day, Us fans don't have to contribute.. We WANT to contribute..
Also, any additional money could easily come from sky, more sponsorships or even the back pocket of Steve o'connor..'"
We all die by the same sword.....
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| When will you lot get it in to your heads, we don't make the rules we just play to them.
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| Quote ="soss"So basicaly any team could be competative with the backing of the sky payments...you must be so proud of your great promotion team then, or very greatful of the franchise system......As a fan its not the way I would want to be promoted.'"
I was asked how we would get the money so i gave an answer? What do you want me to say? You want us to reject the Sky money, if its there, you use it.
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| Quote ="soss"So basicaly any team could be competative with the backing of the sky payments...you must be so proud of your great promotion team then, or very greatful of the franchise system......As a fan its not the way I would want to be promoted.'"
Obviously not , have a look at the SL table
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| Quote ="Pepe"It is only a valid point if you are completely, and irredeemably, stupid.
Do you think that this will be the team Widnes puts out in Super League?
Do you not know that we are operating on a £300k cap down here?
Are you under the illusion that we will continue to be on this cap in SL, and not the £1.6 million SL clubs operate on?
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But if half this league can wupp your sorry =#FF0000removed on less of a turnover then you, then what will the established SL clubs do to you lot on level pegging or even more money than you unofficially
You completely, and irredeemably, stupid person Pepe .
=#FF0000No getting around the swearword filter. Not knowing is not an excuse. Chris.
As you like to call people thought it would be rude if I never kept in style
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| Promotion is now based predominantly on off-field crietria. Widnes tick most boxes (to coin a phrase) in this sense. Widnes should be promoted. It really is that simple.
Like Starbug said, it's the system that is wrong and not the problem of Widnes however ridiculous we all know it is.
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| Quote ="SNOT-HIM08"When will you lot get it in to your heads, we don't make the rules we just play to them.'"
In the same way no Widnes fans ever bleeted on about you getting shown the door several seasons back, you just all sighed and accepted it in a dignified way
When you benefit its great isint it.
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| Here's how i see it. When we had promotion and relegation, who got promoted, the team who was the best throughout the year, the most consistant team that finished top? No. It could be a team who finish 6th and have a couple of good weeks on the pitch, is this fair? Make your own opinions on that.
Franchise system is based on a team that within a 2 year period has made a GF or won the NRC, so they musn't be too bad on the field. It's also based on the structure of the club, finances, stadia, crowds, youth setup. Criteria which if a club do have, will help them progress once in SL.
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| Quote ="Viva La Vikings!!"I was asked how we would get the money so i gave an answer?
What do you want me to say? You want us to reject the Sky money, if its there, you use it.'"
The very sad thing is that we would not have been having this conversation if you hadn't have drafted in your SL players for the NRC final in 2009 as you would have won nothing.......no matter how good your stadia and youth team are.
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| Why are we debating with all the Barra lovers? just ban them and have done with it. They're a nothing club who will be in the lower leagues for years to come.
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| Quote ="soss"The very sad thing is that we would not have been having this conversation if you hadn't have drafted in your SL players for the NRC final in 2009 as you would have won nothing.......no matter how good your stadia and youth team are.'"
So now youve totally gone off topic and your questioning the dual registration deals where we brought in two young english talents.
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| Quote ="soss"The very sad thing is that we would not have been having this conversation if you hadn't have drafted in your SL players for the NRC final in 2009 as you would have won nothing.......no matter how good your stadia and youth team are.'"
Have you Forgot about rooney being on loan at barrow last season?
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| Quote ="Viva La Vikings!!"So now youve totally gone off topic and your questioning the dual registration deals where we brought in two young english talents.
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How long have you followed this game? When did DR come in?...
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| Quote ="Gary High"Well maybe in 2012 - 14 we should borrow a sh*t load of players for the NRC and win that. Then we can rip our supporters off and field a truly under achieving pile of =#FF0000removed so we can tick a few other boxes
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You will without a doubt be in SL in 2013 but not through "on field merit". The general overwhelming consensus is that getting into SL through =#FF0000removed off Dickie and his cronies in Huddersfield makes our beloved sport a laughing stock.
Barrow Raiders should THROUGH MERIT be in SL this season and Featherstone Rovers THROUGH MERIT going up next season. Widnes should be wallowing in The Championship until iyour Chairman puts his money into a decent WINNING squad. Bleat on about Des Johnston as much as you like but he hasn't had the luxury of a Council built, RENTED stadium to ease the burden and help finance a Youth setup. What he has done is give the rugby loving people of Barrow a team worth watching. I'd be embarrased to be accepted into SL after having won what is basically a tin cup that only offers a route to SL in order to keep the sponsors happy and add a bit of meaning to it !
You lot on here moan and bitch about player purchases that TOC & Paul Cullen have made but in the next breath are saying that the very same person(s) will buy you a top squad full of Aussies when you get to SL ! Make your minds up.'"
great u turn this one, i have lost count of how many times i have read that you owning your own stadium gives you an advantage over us, make your mind up
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| Quote ="Blackandwhiteviking"Have you Forgot about rooney being on loan at barrow last season?'"
Tell me ..did Rooney play in the final...and how many games did your "loan" players feature in?????
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| Quote ="soss"Tell me ..did Rooney play in the final...and how many games did your "loan" players feature in?????'"
Who gives a love?
Go away
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| Quote ="soss"Tell me ..did Rooney play in the final...and how many games did your "loan" players feature in?????'"
is it illegal to loan players? I don't think so.. so take your fail argument to someone that cares.
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| Quote ="soss"Tell me ..did Rooney play in the final...and how many games did your "loan" players feature in?????'"
No but he did play for you on loan last season. ie you borrowed him from a super league club, we might do the same for you in 2012
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| what the hell were your guys playing at?
an embarassment to the game. im glad youll be stuck in super league its awful to watch your terrible rugby in the championship
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| Quote ="soss"The very sad thing is that we would not have been having this conversation if you hadn't have drafted in your SL players for the NRC final in 2009 as you would have won nothing.......no matter how good your stadia and youth team are.'"
Quick question for all the numpties out there that trot out this boring reason now.
Why didn't you just do the same... there is no rule to say that only Widnes can strengthen their squad with these players??
So come on Barrow, Leigh and anyone else for that matter... why didn't you just do the same??? We all knew what we were playing for.. explain exactly what we did wrong???
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| Quote ="soss"Tell me ..did Rooney play in the final...and how many games did your "loan" players feature in?????'"
Should have got him in earlier shouldn't you numb nuts!!!!
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| 38-0 and it should of been more!
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