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| Quote ="J20"Hope your right Ritch! Think that’s what SO’C is basically saying, all we have to do now is stay financially viable and should be laughing, prob why all going part time next year, just to protect from a sudden other economic downturn!
I don’t blame Leigh guy for coming out, he had a point didn’t he! Cru beat Leigh in No aspects other than position of club geographically so why wheren’t Leigh in?
Why where Leigh judged on Hilton Park and not LSV, whereas even in RFL’s own lowdown the likes of Salford / Wakey / Saints and Cru had mention of new grounds… LEIGH’S WAS BUILT!
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Where have you heard we're going part time? News to me. I would suggest the fact that we only have 8 full time players means that Steve O has been very careful financially from the start of this year.
Leigh didn't beat them on the criteria. Their application was very unprofessional.
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Quote ="Maximus Decimus"Where have you heard we're going part time? News to me. I would suggest the fact that we only have 8 full time players means that Steve O has been very careful financially from the start of this year.
Leigh didn't beat them on the criteria. Their application was very unprofessional.'"
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Leigh didn't beat them on the criteria. Their application was very unprofessional.'"
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| Quote ="Maximus Decimus"I was shocked to find out that the person who gave that statement is still at the club giving statements.Steve O was very professional even when the BBC tried to provoke him with the Celtic question.'"
Well considering he is our CEO he would be
Your Mr O Connor congratulated him on having the ' balls ' to speak out
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| Quote ="macs fan"Saw the interview and he stated that one of the reasons we didn't get a licence was because our youth development wasn't good enough, i presume that's because we lost a lot of the youth players we had in 2007 had left when the club went bang.
He also stated that they are making sure that the next licence application would tick every box.'"
whats youth development got to do with anything. SL clubs buy aussies or poach from NL clubs.
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| You will get in next time if you can remain solvent.
Given your boss is a very shrewd man, I would think you will be better off having missed out in the first round of Licences and arrrive in SL in much better condition that Salford or Celtic have this year.
I was suprised that Salford got the nod ahead of you, but I will be stunned of 2lose get in ahead of you next time around.
Celtic would seem to be having a PSG type of event and they will be in massive trouble should LS get bored. This should be a warning to the RFL that London apart, you can't expect to plant a team in a non RL region and expect decent players (Australian or otherwise) to move there. We spent 10 years with a team full of crims and the only reason we could attract them was LONDON....somehow, Bridgend isn't as appealing. It has taken us a long time to attract players of decent quality to the south, but now the likes of Orr and Purdham are saying how great it is down here, others may follow.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"You will get in next time if you can remain solvent.
Given your boss is a very shrewd man, I would think you will be better off having missed out in the first round of Licences and arrrive in SL in much better condition that Salford or Celtic have this year.
I was suprised that Salford got the nod ahead of you, but I will be stunned of 2lose get in ahead of you next time around.
Celtic would seem to be having a PSG type of event and they will be in massive trouble should LS get bored. This should be a warning to the RFL that London apart, you can't expect to plant a team in a non RL region and expect decent players (Australian or otherwise) to move there. We spent 10 years with a team full of crims and the only reason we could attract them was LONDON....somehow, Bridgend isn't as appealing. It has taken us a long time to attract players of decent quality to the south, but now the likes of Orr and Purdham are saying how great it is down here, others may follow.
As I said above, if you don't get into SL next time around I will be stunned.'"
I'd say if Toulouse continue their development they'd be more worthy of a franchise than Celtic were. They're already one of the top supported clubs in the league.
I think a heartland club will be dumped in favour of Toulouse, I just hope Widnes get in there too.
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| Quote ="richardviking"I'd say if Toulouse continue their development they'd be more worthy of a franchise than Celtic were. They're already one of the top supported clubs in the league.
I think a heartland club will be dumped in favour of Toulouse, I just hope Widnes get in there too.'"
Well, you tick the stadium box, without having to build one out of origami You contribute to the comp (mainly by providing players for other clubs to poach), your community team (IIRC) recently won an award and you have a steady fan base. I really think that if the RFL are going to promote 1 club, it should be you, but if it's 2.....you are sure to get in.
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| Steve is a very astute businessman, and he has brought an extremely professional approach to the club. With him at the helm I can see us getting a license next time round.
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| Quote ="Maximus Decimus"Where have you heard we're going part time? News to me. I would suggest the fact that we only have 8 full time players means that Steve O has been very careful financially from the start of this year.
Leigh didn't beat them on the criteria. Their application was very unprofessional.'"
Sure it came out when Cullen was on about no-one getting to training etc, said basically we all train together so part time is best for everyone IIRC! Plus it would save us money which can only be a good thing! No-one else in this division runs as many full time contracts so doubt players would walk away aswell!
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Was it ?
You have seen it ?
Would seem strange given it was prepared by these lot at considerable cost
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I saw the presentation (on youtube I think) before it was taken down and it was very poorly done. A teenage school project would have been better.
As for Allan Rowley, he came out with a statement that was universally condemned by almost the whole of Rugby League and embarrassed the club of Leigh. Most people see him as indicative of how unprofessional Leigh are. He might be a nice bloke but he should have left the club. He is hampering any chance you could possibly have of applying for Super League.
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Was it ?
You have seen it ?
Would seem strange given it was prepared by these lot at considerable cost
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I saw the presentation (on youtube I think) before it was taken down and it was very poorly done. A teenage school project would have been better.
As for Allan Rowley, he came out with a statement that was universally condemned by almost the whole of Rugby League and embarrassed the club of Leigh. Most people see him as indicative of how unprofessional Leigh are. He might be a nice bloke but he should have left the club. He is hampering any chance you could possibly have of applying for Super League.
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As for Allan Rowley, he came out with a statement that was universally condemned by almost the whole of Rugby League and embarrassed the club of Leigh. Most people see him as indicative of how unprofessional Leigh are. He might be a nice bloke but he should have left the club. He is hampering any chance you could possibly have of applying for Super League.'"
You are talking a load of crap.
The presentation was as good as any and was very well received.
Alan only said what everyone including the vast majority of RL fans from Widnes thought but he had the guts to say it, unprofessional possibly but when has it been a crime to stand up and be counted.
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| Quote ="Twitch"You are talking a load of crap.
The presentation was as good as any and was very well received.
Alan only said what everyone including the vast majority of RL fans from Widnes thought but he had the guts to say it, unprofessional possibly but when has it been a crime to stand up and be counted.
If brown nosing gets you into SL, your club is doing a great job,with half the Sky team on your side and a former chum as your coach, you are half way their
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And where would you rather be?
Diplomacy is an art my friend, Leigh could have done with some at the time of the announcements.
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| Quote ="Twitch"You are talking a load of crap.'"
Usefull [url=http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=531673&y=191245&z=0&sv=N22+5QW&st=2&pc=N22+5QW&mapp=map.srf&searchp=ids.srfmap[/url for you to use next year
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Usefull [url=http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=531673&y=191245&z=0&sv=N22+5QW&st=2&pc=N22+5QW&mapp=map.srf&searchp=ids.srfmap[/url for you to use next year
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Very funny but unlike many on here and other sites I've already been to most of them , but thanks for the offer
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| Quote ="Twitch"Very funny but unlike many on here and other sites I've already been to most of them , but thanks for the offer
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Rather than bitching about Celtic (or us or the frog), I would think there were targets nearer to home that should be looked at. Those clubs with oragami stadiums (they look good on paper) and other failings are more likely to fall that Catalan (good crowds, good results) Quins RL (b4stard child of the RFL and SKY) and Celtic (Like they will admit they made a mistake). There are at least 3 clubs in the same "c" bracket as us that have yet to deliver on the biggest promise......stadia and you have one that is spot on.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"seriously...I believe there is a place at the top table available to many teams outside SL and just because you're not there now, doesn't mean you wont get there. But...rants like the one from your representatives when you didn't get a place HE THOUGHT you deserved will not do you any favours in future Licencing rounds.
Rather than bitching about Celtic (or us or the frog), I would think there were targets nearer to home that should be looked at. Those clubs with oragami stadiums (they look good on paper) and other failings are more likely to fall that Catalan (good crowds, good results) Quins RL (b4stard child of the RFL and SKY) and Celtic (Like they will admit they made a mistake). There are at least 3 clubs in the same "c" bracket as us that have yet to deliver on the biggest promise......stadia and you have one that is spot on.'"
We had one last time
Problem is the RFL promised that all criteria would be fairly judged so when you are stood in front of a 95 % completed stadium with 6 months before a ball is kicked and they refuse to let it be part of your application it is understandable that people are not too happy
Doubt very much Alan's outburst will make any difference to us getting back into SL
That will only happen if somebody goes tits up financially
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| Quote ="Maximus Decimus"I saw the presentation (on youtube I think) before it was taken down and it was very poorly done. A teenage school project would have been better.
As for Allan Rowley, he came out with a statement that was universally condemned by almost the whole of Rugby League and embarrassed the club of Leigh. Most people see him as indicative of how unprofessional Leigh are. He might be a nice bloke but he should have left the club. He is hampering any chance you could possibly have of applying for Super League.'"
So you think that a press conference to answer questions was the sum total of clubs applications for SL
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I dont remember seeing anybody condemn him except a few fans on here , mostly fans of clubs that had got a franchise , in fact the vast majority of fans of the clubs that missed out were in support of what he said , especially Widnes fans
As I said your Mr O Connor rang him to congratulate him on having the balls to stand up for what he and many of your fans believed , I have no doubt that had Widnes got the spot Alan would have congratulaed them
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| Quote ="Starbug"So you think that a press conference to answer questions was the sum total of clubs applications for SL
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I dont remember seeing anybody condemn him except a few fans on here , mostly fans of clubs that had got a franchise , in fact the vast majority of fans of the clubs that missed out were in support of what he said , especially Widnes fans
As I said your Mr O Connor rang him to congratulate him on having the balls to stand up for what he and many of your fans believed , I have no doubt that had Widnes got the spot Alan would have congratulaed them'"
Where did he say that then? He said he saw your presentation, he didn't say it was the sum total of your application. But it certainly speaks volumes when the details of your club's assets were presented so poorly.
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| Quote ="Chris Dalton"Where did he say that then? He said he saw your presentation, he didn't say it was the sum total of your application. But it certainly speaks volumes when the details of your club's assets were presented so poorly.'"
The application like everybody else's was a document , I doubt the RFL even saw the press conference outlining the details of the bid to the local press
The RFL dont want us , never will , hopefully they are not stupid enough to deny you
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| Quote ="Starbug"The application like everybody else's was a document , I doubt the RFL even saw the press conference outlining the details of the bid to the local press
The RFL dont want us , never will , hopefully they are not stupid enough to deny you'"
They've been stupid enough plenty of times before!
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| Quote ="Starbug"So you think that a press conference to answer questions was the sum total of clubs applications for SL
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I dont remember seeing anybody condemn him except a few fans on here , mostly fans of clubs that had got a franchise , in fact the vast majority of fans of the clubs that missed out were in support of what he said , especially Widnes fans
As I said your Mr O Connor rang him to congratulate him on having the balls to stand up for what he and many of your fans believed , I have no doubt that had Widnes got the spot Alan would have congratulaed them'"
Press conference, where did I mention a press conference? It was a video presentation outlining why Super League should give Leigh a franchise and it was rubbish. It looked like it had been made by a 12 year old, but it hadn't, it was from the Leigh club. It didn't stay up very long because it was getting slated.
If you want to get personal you've shown yourself up for being an idiot by not being able to read.
The quote was massively condemned at the time by anybody with a brain. Whether most of the fans were thinking that or not, a professional organisation should not come out with remarks like those. They could have expressed disappointment and regret but to say that the RFL should 'hang their heads in shame' just smacks of an amateur organisation. It has massively hindered Leigh's chances of ever being a Super League club again, which is why I am amazed that he is still at the club.
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| Quote ="Maximus Decimus"Press conference, where did I mention a press conference? It was a video presentation outlining why Super League should give Leigh a franchise and it was rubbish. It looked like it had been made by a 12 year old, but it hadn't, it was from the Leigh club. It didn't stay up very long because it was getting slated.
If you want to get personal you've shown yourself up for being an idiot by not being able to read.
The quote was massively condemned at the time by anybody with a brain. Whether most of the fans were thinking that or not, a professional organisation should not come out with remarks like those. They could have expressed disappointment and regret but to say that the RFL should 'hang their heads in shame' just smacks of an amateur organisation. It has massively hindered Leigh's chances of ever being a Super League club again, which is why I am amazed that he is still at the club.'"
You are getting confused with what you percieved things to be regards the ' presentation ' it was put on the internet because fans requested it , if it had influence on something as important as the licence applications then that shows how pathetic our ' rulers ' are
As regards the quotes , yes maybe they were not ' PC ' , but they were the truth
Maybe some people dont like the truth , but I always prefer it to ' BULL '
As I said earlier , thats why our sport is like it is
Your opinions are yours and you are welcome to them , you dont know all the facts , niether do I , what I do know is the RFL could have saved a lot of people a lot of trouble and money , but as usual they didn't have the balls for that
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I dont remember seeing anybody condemn him except a few fans on here , mostly fans of clubs that had got a franchise , in fact the vast majority of fans of the clubs that missed out were in support of what he said , especially Widnes fans
As I said your Mr O Connor rang him to congratulate him on having the balls to stand up for what he and many of your fans believed , I have no doubt that had Widnes got the spot Alan would have congratulaed them'"
On here...as in the Widnes board? I seem to recall a fair bit of debate on the Leigh board at the time with plenty of Leigh fans understanding the emotion behind his statement but also acknowledging it wasn't the best of responses.
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Diplomacy is an art my friend, Leigh could have done with some at the time of the announcements.'"
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| Quote ="Starbug"As I said your Mr O Connor rang him to congratulate him on having the balls to stand up for what he and many of your fans believed'"
Ah ha!
So it's [iyou[/i who works for the News of the World!?
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