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| Quote ="peawapp"Bloody Hell let's be honest aren't the Widnes Fans used to getting beat at the Sports village by now cos it certainly isn't the first time is it.
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Haha I did say on the way out .... still never won a match here! (not counting a friendly with Swinton!)
Did the Wigan walk a few mins before the end so diddnt see the trouble. Its all very sad, after watching the vids above and it does seem a very large minority! Hope we dont get punished too badly
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| The punishment should land firmly on the perpetrators.
It is a criminal offence to encroach onto a pitch and I do hope that those identified will be prosecuted.
If found guilty they will then have a criminal record.
That would be real punishment IMO and a reminder to anyone else thinking about doing the same that the consequencies will be very severe.
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| Quote ="Father Ted"The punishment should land firmly on the perpetrators.
It is a criminal offence to encroach onto a pitch and I do hope that those identified will be prosecuted.
If found guilty they will then have a criminal record.
That would be real punishment IMO and a reminder to anyone else thinking about doing the same that the consequencies will be very severe.'"
That would be just gravy. I would love it.
This has been depressing me all day since it happened. A few s and all of a sudden we're in the gutter, and I can't argue with it because what those people did was totally wrong. All credit to all those especially Cas fans who have not aimed at Widnes fans in general. I'm astonished the amount of people who haven't chosen to lay into us so far, as I would understand if they did.
Walked away yesterday feeling as negative as I ever have and I didn't even see the incidents as I left a minute early to beat traffic.
We can't punish them with bans, they don't care. They wont give one iota of care to the punishment the club is up for either. The people responsible will need to be punished elsewhere if we're going to really hold them accountable. I sincerely hope the police get involved.
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| What would be good is if after Widnes face their inevitable fine they could collectively sue anyone caught for wrongdoing.
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| Widnes (and Widnes fans) are doing a lot to identify these idiots and issue bans and hopefully criminal proceedings. I've seen via twitter a lot of people sending pictures and videos to GMP. Keep them coming because we don't want them in our game.
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| Quote ="Chris Dalton"All credit to all those especially Cas fans who have not aimed at Widnes fans in general. I'm astonished the amount of people who haven't chosen to lay into us so far, as I would understand if they did.
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Chris. I think the majority of rugby fans, know that this is not the whole of the Widnes fan based. The prompt condemnation from your own ranks to testimony to this and perhaps why there is such widespread agreement on this point. Some people have pointed out, with some justification it would appear, that some of those involved were NOT bored football supports on a tanked up day out and the only things that could be criticised would be if this become the "party line". Rugby doesnt need these idiot, Widnes Vikings RLFC doesnt need these idiot. Hopefully a way can be found of starting to alienate them.
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| Quote ="asmadasa"Not good enough and people need identifying, prosecuting and banning! This isn't the first time unfortunately.....
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Name shame and ban the scum from every ground and game for life. I feel sorry for the genuine widnes fans who were not involved and had to watch that.
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| I was thinking about this. If the Widnes club was fined for damage to reputation of the game etc. Could Widnes then take civil action against those fans to recoup the costs of any fine.
I'm not one to support litigation, but with so many fans identified. Lets say you can name 100 of them.
If the fine on Widnes was say £50,000
Then surely any civil court would impose say a £500 damages on each individual to compensate the club.
Or the RFL could impose a fine, reducing it for every fan taken to court by the Widnes club. The club can then decided whether it's worth the cost of recouping the money. Lets face it with the impact on sponsors they could get even more out of these scum.
I'm sure some will meet criminal proceedings but nothing to stop Widnes latching onto that and getting some damages. Leaving the blame, cost and punishment were it truely should lie, with the pondscum that soiled the clubs name.
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| Quote ="Wire Yed"What would be good is if after Widnes face their inevitable fine they could collectively sue anyone caught for wrongdoing.'"
Gets my vote
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| Quote ="Wire Yed"What would be good is if after Widnes face their inevitable fine they could collectively sue anyone caught for wrongdoing.'"
Sorry totally missed this post.
Good thinking that man.
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| Just watched the footage on youtube and saw the stuff on tv yesterday.
Shameful scenes that you rarely even see at football games thesedays.
The RFL should do the decent thing and dock Widnes points NOW.
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| I am still raging with what happened yesterday. But what exactly could Widnes as a club have done differently to prevent it happening? I thought the stewards were weak and not overly proactive and the police were quite slow in showing up. If the game was at Widnes, then Widnes as a club should be held 100% accountable. I respect that James rule (is it?) Is being proactive about wanting names and such. But I don't really know how punishing Widnes as a club will prevent it happening again?!
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| All clubs have some sort of unruly following usually tanked up angry teenage hot-heads, of which my club has quite a few!
What was worrying here was the vast majority were grown men, late twenties through to forties. These lot need to arrested, put up before the magistrates and then named (with mugshot) and shamed in the local papers for all to see.
Lifetime bans need to be handed out and each one prosecuted at least.
I would then like all Rugby League clubs to issue a statement (via the RFL) to their own fans to show that similar behaviour will not be tolerated with similar punishments given.
Widnes will recover from this (as long as they have been seen to have done something). Banter aside I've always taken pride in following 'the family game', I need to feel re-assured that I can take my two lads to away games without fear both inside and outside the grounds. It's up to Widnes to make that possible.
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| I really do feel today for all the true supporters of Widnes, because of a few idiots no sorry morons, their good name of themselves and their club is being dragged through the mud..although I am really annoyed mostly because my friend Sallie was injured by one of these people but also because the Tigers Players and fans we were no allowed to celebrate and it spoilt what had been an excellent day...the true fans you are a credit to your team and I hope you are not made to suffer because of these prats .....I sincerely hope the these people are named and shamed
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| Quote ="OFFTHECUFF"They probably never go the games. Best team won and fair play to Castleford'"
Every club has its share of morons. Our morons are thicker morons than anybody else's morons.
Castleford played very well, took their opportunities and found out every chink in our armour.
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| Quote ="Bruce_Forsyth"Just watched the footage on youtube and saw the stuff on tv yesterday.
Shameful scenes that you rarely even see at football games thesedays.
The RFL should do the decent thing and dock Widnes points NOW.'"
This was not a league game, it was a Challenge Cup semi final.
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| Quote ="thelinesman"Name shame and ban the scum from every ground and game for life. I feel sorry for the genuine widnes fans who were not involved and had to watch that.'"
A certain former international player and coach has tweeted that he recognised about 15 of the troublemakers but will do nothing to help Widnes Vikings.
Some sour grapes methinks.
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| Eh????
Why would sour grapes extend to not naming people who have put RL in trouble?
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| Best Wishes to the true Widnes fans who sang their hearts out all game.
I hope you find theses idiots and fingers crossed your fine wont be that heavy.
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| Quote ="Old Viking"A certain former international player and coach has tweeted that he recognised about 15 of the troublemakers but will do nothing to help Widnes Vikings.'"
I find that hard to believe. If it is true, name & shame him
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| Quote ="wigginswarrior"I find that hard to believe. If it is true, name & shame him'"
It's true. He also played for yourselves but to clarify, he said he would do nothing to help the club, i.e. Widnes but if the Stadium (Select Security I assume) asked for help, he would.
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| Quote ="Redchemic"It's true. =#800000He also played for yourselves but to clarify, he said he would do nothing to help the club, i.e. Widnes but if the Stadium (Select Security I assume) asked for help, he would.'"
That hardly narrows it down much.
I'm sure the majority can be identified via social media anyway.
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| Quote ="MattyB"That hardly narrows it down much.
I'm sure the majority can be identified via social media anyway.'"
The main one has, there has been a lot of movement on this I am informed. I really, really hope the police get involved.
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| it's a bit hard to blame the security at the ground - in reality they were outnumbered 10-1 and if any started becoming aggressive they would've been jumped on - those demics don't have any backbone or moral fibre.
Poor Pat Price, I hope she wasn't looking down on that - all her hard work, fundraising etc has been wasted by a big fine and bad press for hooliganism.
I hope they're proud
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| Quote ="MattyB"That hardly narrows it down much.
I'm sure the majority can be identified via social media anyway.'"
I guess it's a player who has been shown the door at Widnes, Wigan, Leeds and Saints.
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