Your right, the year before last you finished 6th.

With a newly formed team you plank.

anyways it's pointless debating with Halifax as you havent won feck all in years.

banter and scitso is below the belt but really you dont know me to comment.

its still true. Oh and we did win...the fair play award!

We won that poxy thing.What nice bathroom now?

Ok whats the link? You must be pretty popular on there.. hypocrite

Don't like Whitehaven myself. Or Leigh.

How do you think we managed to finish the bloomin' stand!?

..ZING!

Well 'm in the know that most Super League supporters hate Widnes.

Hated and adored NEVER ignored.

I don't give a stuff if we're hated or not. We're are the best club in the world and will rise to the top once again.

Pills wearing off again?

Have no problem with Widnes and hope they progress to SL. I have no time for Barrow with a gobe Egomaniac Chairman and Fans who seem to think that they should be in SL after 2 decent seasons. They have bought themselves to win stuff but done zilch on the ground. The lights are a joke and the Academy set up is crap especially compared to Widnes. I wish Fax to win everything but I would have no problem when a properlsy developed team- on and off the field would beat Fax in all the games.

The fans don't think we SHOULD be in Super League, we think that we have CHANCE of Super League. A big difference there. As for all our rivals favourite subject - namely Des Johnston, he puts his money where his mouth is and is a winner. The club is being run better than any time in its history, we have a £850,000 turnover, the best lottery in the sport and 2 trophiesin the cabinet. That'll do for us Raiders fans.

We've been down the 'Craven Park is crap' route a million times and it's getting boring TBH. We didn't sell the family silver for a joint or council run stadium. Craven Park will be redeveloped and will still be 100% owned by Barrow RL. It will also still be in the heart of the town and the club will get 100% of all profits on matchdays etc.

Regarding our youth set-up, we have a U18's and a reserve team. A scholarship will be launched in due course. Having an expensive SL style youth set-up is absolute folly for a Championship club. We could have that, but would post the same massive losses as Widnes as a result and have all the best youngsters snapped up by SL clubs.

What would be the point of that ??

Come again?? What utter .

Because it is!
How are you going to get a 12-14k seater stadium within next 5 yrs?
Selling the clubs silver maybe your only option i'm afraid, your grounds a write off!

dont be too quick to judge.

Nope you wouldn't understand with your club having never reached such dizzying heights as World Club Champions or being dubbed the Cup Kings.

What a load of horse cack i don`t know of anyone who thinks we should be in the sooper dooper league.
A properly developed team so you don`t sign players from other clubs ? Are you the "basques of yorkshire"?

Try looking on your forum then! Also the way your Chairman acts and shouts his mouth of hardly helps does it? As regards to Crappy Craven Park it is amazing Des finds money to buy any available player but fails to spend much on the ground. He moans about having to pay 26,000 for lights when Barrow are on TV bragging about losing more money betting etc. Perhaps if Des spent some money modernizing the Crap hole at Craven Park, Barrow would not need to hire lights when on TV. Widnes, Fax, Batley, Doncaster etc have managed to do it why not Barrow?

No you wouldn't. You'd post the same losses at Widnes if Des Johnston spent some of his own money on the stadium. New seats, interior refit, electronic ticket system cost SOC a lot of money that he will never get back. In playing terms what Barrow achieved this year was superb, but we've seen in the past that clubs like Hunslet and Dewsbury could put competetive teams out that could win silverware but they were denied SL because they were unable/unwilling to upgrade their stadia (they still haven't). If DJ thinks Barrow have a realistic chance of SL with the current state of Craven Park then that is absolute folly.

I`m sure the pain of winning sweet FA this season gone (despite being the best by a country mile) will wear off eventually.

I am a fan of the game more than just being a Fax fan. Fax did not win anything this year. Shit happens and it does not really bother me that much as I am glad what is happening at Fax off the field as well as on it. Still we are able to submit an application for SL just like Barrow who won the League & Grand Final.

Hardly the best examples...

Widnes (bust in 2007)
Fax (bust in 2005?)
Donny (bust in 2009 and 2007?)

Barrow have never gone bust (despite some dreadful times - all creditors were paid in full) and own land valued at £4M - £5M. If all RL clubs' assets were liquidated, we'd be one of the richest clubs in the sport.

If we aren't ready for 2012 - so be it. We will still own our ground which will be redeveloped whatever.

I know which position I'd rather be in. Far too many clubs foundations are built on sand.

We (fax) didn't go bust in 2005, thanks to ours fans, fans of other clubs and our ex chairman coming back to stump up the remainder.

When is Craven Park getting devloped? or is it just a dream at the min. (Genuine question- as a fax fan can't really take the michael out of other teams stadia!

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I think the club has a committee appointed to look into what is necessary to meet the very subjective SL requirements, what can be realistically done within time frame and the financial investment required.

At present there has been no announcement on any date for works starting, which given that its nearly 2010 and the scale of works required makes a successful 2012 SL franchise a bit remote



But we knew that anyway.

Widnes will no doubt get a franchise and personally I look forward to seeing how the first "promotion" from the Championship works out without being the subject of it. Good luck to Widnes and I hope they make a real success of it and pave the way for other clubs.

In response to the very hostile TLBC. It is no secret that the Barrow club has been in dire financial straits in the recent past. They had a to service a massive IR bill during the 90's which swallowed up funds which would have paid for a competitive squad and ground developments. The lack of success on the field meant that attendances dwindled, revenue dropped and the situation worsened. The board made the decision not to sell the ground but tough it out and the recent past has vindicated that decision as we are now in a far better situation with capital assets and increasing gates.

The accounts are public domain and have been discussed on your forum which show that DJ's investment in nowhere near what was speculated and that the club is financially viable, particularly with its current increase in revenue other than that from our chairman. So we will have to see what the future brings with regards to ground development.