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| Quote ="Paul T - HKR"Tough call in that both teams are unknown quantities.
=#BFFF40Its well documented Wakey would have lost out in the franchise renewals, which I think brings another edge to this encounter. Both teams will be out to prove a point, with Wakey maybe having far more to prove.
As much as I would like to see Widnes start their new SL era off with a win, I think good old Yorkshire grit will see Agar's charges nicking it in the last quarter.'"
Except it's not well documented is it?
This is the result of the lazy journalism and media driven assumption both pre and post franchise decision, the truth it is not!
Beleive me I KNOW 1st hand that Wakefields franchise application was better than Celtics, Halifax's and at least two other clubs.
This "Wakefield saved by Crusaders withdrawal" statement has now almost become fact for no other reason than it's been said a lot and no one has continually challenged it.
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| Watts out for 2 weeks is believed to be the rumour with his hamstring. Hope its not true, if all that was true about the hamstring playing up in cold weather etc i really cant see him playing.
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| Quote ="OFFTHECUFF"If Watts has a good game and is fit he could be the match winner.I have only watched him briefly against Saints, and he was magic and the best halfback i have seen in a Widnes shirt for a long time.'"
My mate emailed me before and he reckons that he's the best since Tony Myler. Definitely worth a tenner for Man of Steel I reckon, on the proviso that he stays fit of course. Just set up an account with ApolloBet to put this bet on which is an absolute bugger to do. Ballache!!
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| Quote ="Mr Widnes"My mate emailed me before and he reckons that he's the best since Tony Myler. Definitely worth a tenner for Man of Steel I reckon, on the proviso that he stays fit of course. Just set up an account with ApolloBet to put this bet on which is an absolute bugger to do. Ballache!!
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Just think of the £670 return . I'm going to put something similar on myself, its a shot in the dark but thats why its 66/1.
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| Quote ="Viva La Vikings!!"Watts out for 2 weeks is believed to be the rumour with his hamstring. Hope its not true, if all that was true about the hamstring playing up in cold weather etc i really cant see him playing.'"
If a hamstring injury not right be better to rest to fully better.If true play Craven with Hanbury.Hope not White pairing with Hanbury.
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| Quote ="OFFTHECUFF"If a hamstring injury not right be better to rest to fully better.If true play Craven with Hanbury.Hope not White pairing with Hanbury.'"
I totally agree with you, if he isn't 100% fit, it would be a wasted number on the team sheet imo
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| Quote ="OFFTHECUFF"If a hamstring injury not right be better to rest to fully better.If true play Craven with Hanbury.Hope not White pairing with Hanbury.'"
I'm glad you've waited before picking out this season's scape goat mate
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| Quote ="J20"I'm glad you've waited before picking out this season's scape goat mate
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Mate i hope White proves me wrong, but what i have seen he is very average and slow.Replacement for Coyle for me. Serious i just rate Craven more than White.
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| Quote ="Viva La Vikings!!"Just think of the £670 return
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Correct, Muck. Throw in a cheeky 10 quid free bet and we are talking a fair amount of scratch!
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| Quote ="Mr Widnes"Correct, Muck. Throw in a cheeky 10 quid free bet and we are talking a fair amount of scratch!
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I think i may have a cheeky £30 bet. I admit i think the best since Tony Myler, and he was always injured.Hopefully it was just the cold weather and not a permanent injury.Rather him rest than be out long term, as i think Craven is a decent player.
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| Ben Thaler of Wakefield is your ref on Friday.
Stitch up.
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| Quote ="littlerich"Ben Thaler of Wakefield is your ref on Friday.
Stitch up.'"
Not that I think it will make a difference but it does annoy me that since the RFL changed the rule allowing ref's to officiate their 'own / local team' they seem to give them most games which is bizzare! Especially Silverwood at Leeds etc. Any mistake get's treated as contentious, so why bother?
In reality it was only brought in as Ganson was top Ref and never getting final's due to Saints being there yet they seem to have gone from on extreme to another.
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| Wonder how I would get on if I had to ref Fax v Widnes?
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| Quote ="littlerich"Wonder how I would get on if I had to ref Fax v Widnes?
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You'd be barred from the Fax forum for life
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| Quote ="J20"You'd be barred from the Fax forum for life
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| Quote ="Viva La Vikings!!"Watts out for 2 weeks is believed to be the rumour with his hamstring. Hope its not true, if all that was true about the hamstring playing up in cold weather etc i really cant see him playing.'"
as I've already said HE TOLD ME HIMSELF he will be out for around 4 weeks.
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| Quote ="littlerich"Ben Thaler of Wakefield is your ref on Friday.
Stitch up.'"
I hope not
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| Widnes Vikings 24 v 29 Wakefield Trinity
MoM: Paul Aiton
Att: 7911
Wind: Prevailing SW
Temp: -5.5
Humidity: 1%
Anyone need the lottery numbers?
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| Likely Wakefield starting line up
Mathers
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Collis
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| Quote ="littlerich"Ben Thaler of Wakefield is your ref on Friday.
Stitch up.'"
I may be wrong but AFAIK he's a Cas fan so yes it is a stitch up.
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| All the times we have had thaler there has been no favouritism shown to wakey that's for sure.
The referee won't be a factor in any team taking the points and shouldn't be. Looking forward to the game.
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| That was a fine display by Wakefield, the coped with the pitch, some dubious refereeing, some dubious tactics and a big widnes pack.
Thankfully all the pre match omens, came to nothing, and Widnes will have to look elsewhere for their first points.
For Wakefield all our key players showed up very well, and they also roughed it out as a team when they had to, a real team performance!!
Widnes tried to and were allowed to rough it up far too much throughout and benefited from some terrible refereeing in the first half in particular. They looked shot in the second half, but that will improve as the season progresses I'm sure.
The dream has ended and now it's the reality check of life in the fast lane, and I wish you all well.
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| What a wonderfully typical one sided view of the game.
I think if Widnes had shared the same luxury as Wakefield in having both of our first choice halves in the game then the scoreline could have been strongly in our favour by HT. From what's been seen of Watts he adds a bit of guile into the attacking line and I think we would have converted a bit more of the pressure.
I also think one of the refereeing decisions went your way when it so easily could have come down in our favour and there were two clear opportunities for us to score were we simply over-ran the ball. Whilst the scoreline looks impressive in the end, lets remember that at least two scores came whilst we were down to 12 men also.
So as for wishing us well. I will do the same to you. You may well need it yet.
It was a bit of a make-do side really with Clarke coming in at SH and then White moving to this position removing our ability to interchange the hooker.
As for the ref... if your side keep up the gesturing to try and get opposition players sent off you may well become one of the least liked sides in the league.
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| What I will add is this... at times some of the rugby that Wakefield played was very good to watch indeed. The fans turned up in fantastic numbers all things being considered. We were at the western end of the North Stand so couldn't really hear them but undoubtedly they were making a lot of noise and supported their team fantastically well.
Considering how many newcomers you have in the squad, the team looked well blended together already and the players have a good understanding which will improve yet again as the season progresses. No small amount of praise should be given to Agar for doing this already.
I'm genuinely looking forward to the return match at Belle Vue.
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