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| Quote ="Zimbo"Pot kettle'"
Where exactly have I tried to whip up anti-Barrow feeling on another club's forum? Or are you simply publicizing where you keep your stash?
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| Quote ="In EnemyTerritory"Interesting... it seems that SRC is trying to whip up a bit of his anti-Widnes feeling on other boards but it looks for the major part as though it has failed. I'd say that quite a few more of the posts seem to 'support' what SOC is saying and recognise the strength of our bid for the next round.
Must be pretty galling for you that SRC??
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=#004080I think you are right with that comment. Most people accept that Widnes should have had a Superleage place above the Welsh, and would certainly look the best placed for the next franchise bid. What is important though is what criteria the RFL set for the next round of bids, because sure as eggs is eggs they will change some of it. It will also depend on what number of Superleage teams they decide on. If they decide to stay with 14, then I would expect Widnes's bid to win above Salford, Wakefield and the Welsh. What we at Halifax have to do is keep an eye on what we are doing , so we can also be in the mix.
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| Quote ="In EnemyTerritory"Expect more of this as the sordid licence affair gathers pace boys..
You can count yourselves lucky that you weren't involved the last time out and indications are that this time around things could get just as nasty with four or five SL clubs clinging desperately to their licence spot.
The one thing that distinguished SOC last time out was his refusal to get dragged into the mud slinging and petty point scoring employed by some of his counterparts. Instead his focus was completely on our bid.
Make no mistake the guy is an asset to our club and is greatly liked by the RL community.
With regards to this article I don't see anything controversial... just a club chairman tub-thumping his team's chances.
He is simply saying what is currently being said by certain sections of the RL community. With Celtic lurching from issue to issue it has been widely been touted that we are the team best suited to take their place and SOC was responding directly to a question about this. His answer being that we will not be going anywhere just yet but we are clear favourites for a spot in 2012. It's a mark of the man that he did not take the opportunity to gloat about the situation in South Wales but instead offer sympathy.
Why is he so confident of a licence next time around??
Looking at our own bid... last time around (although it was all a bit of fun) Sky gave us a Grade B rating for a licence and we feel that we have improved since then. The RFL earmarked the 'administration' as being the factor for our refusal. That is not something that can be used this time around and so we are very confident.
The RFL have looked fairly foolish in their choice of Celtic over Widnes with some ugly questions being asked in the media and I think the RFL will look to appoint us next time around.'"
Good post.
Quote ="In EnemyTerritory"With regards to this article I don't see anything controversial... just a club chairman tub-thumping his team's chances.'"
How did the song go now? I get knocked down but I get up again?!
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| Quote ="Zimbo"Pot kettle'"
Maybe not you personally but some on here.
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| Quote ="Zimbo"Maybe not you personally but some on here.'"
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Quote ="SRC"The Barrow forum is here ...... www.totalrl.com/index.php?showforum=4 , where you will find the article posted.
Not sure what the comment about freebies is, but if you are referring to free tickets, our club gives away very few - if any. The vast, vast majority pay to get in for every game, unlike many clubs who offer 'free matches' or 'bring a mate for free'. Neither do we pretty much give away our season tickets. People will pay for a quality product - as last year proved for us. Hence our good expected turnover and profit for 2009.'"
It was a joke and obviously you have taken it personnel. Widnes where robbed of a place and now no administration over the next 3yrs.We have the best stadium and fan base in the league.We also have a youth set up and one of our assets went to salford, and played for england. If you are posting this on other boards you are upset.
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Quote ="SRC"The Barrow forum is here ...... www.totalrl.com/index.php?showforum=4 , where you will find the article posted.
Not sure what the comment about freebies is, but if you are referring to free tickets, our club gives away very few - if any. The vast, vast majority pay to get in for every game, unlike many clubs who offer 'free matches' or 'bring a mate for free'. Neither do we pretty much give away our season tickets. People will pay for a quality product - as last year proved for us. Hence our good expected turnover and profit for 2009.'"
It was a joke and obviously you have taken it personnel. Widnes where robbed of a place and now no administration over the next 3yrs.We have the best stadium and fan base in the league.We also have a youth set up and one of our assets went to salford, and played for england. If you are posting this on other boards you are upset.
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| “However they have made clear their minimum criteria for entry and I’m comfortable that we we’ve met that to date."
I find this line interesting... does this simply refer to criteria of winning the NR cup and a GF appearance or something else?
John Wilkinson seemed to suggest some time ago that the RFL had spoken to them about improvements they NEEDED to make in order to apply next time around. Des Johnston was complaining some months ago that the RFL had spoken to him and informed him that their on field achievements would count for nothing unless they substantially improved Craven Park. We know about the letters sent to the 'infamous five' regarding the state of their ground development plans and the warning housed within them.
It increasingly looks likely that grounds will be one of the main focus points of the next round putting us front and centre for a franchise spot.
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Quote ="SRC"The Barrow forum is here ...... www.totalrl.com/index.php?showforum=4 , where you will find the article posted.
Not sure what the comment about freebies is, but if you are referring to free tickets, our club gives away very few - if any. The vast, vast majority pay to get in for every game, unlike many clubs who offer 'free matches' or 'bring a mate for free'. Neither do we pretty much give away our season tickets. People will pay for a quality product - as last year proved for us. Hence our good expected turnover and profit for 2009.'"
You really do not like our club with these constant side swipes. I honestly cannot understand your obsession posting 'huge losses' because we are running a full junior set up. Please tell me why you continue to ignore the fact that SOC spent over one million of his own money in bringing the club up to scratch? That is why we posted these losses, it's money invested into the club that SOC does not expect to see returned. We are however close to a million turnover, therefore if that continues this financial year our profit / loss will not be so 'huge' as you are so quick to point out all the time. You seem to conveniently neglect this fact in order to continually suit your own agenda against us.
As for this freebies thing, we have an occasional promotion, that is all. Just like you, the vast vast majority pay to get in for every game.
At the moment your club has it right on the field but that could change, in every other area you are miles behind us and that is what grates with you really isn't it.
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Quote ="SRC"The Barrow forum is here ...... www.totalrl.com/index.php?showforum=4 , where you will find the article posted.
Not sure what the comment about freebies is, but if you are referring to free tickets, our club gives away very few - if any. The vast, vast majority pay to get in for every game, unlike many clubs who offer 'free matches' or 'bring a mate for free'. Neither do we pretty much give away our season tickets. People will pay for a quality product - as last year proved for us. Hence our good expected turnover and profit for 2009.'"
You really do not like our club with these constant side swipes. I honestly cannot understand your obsession posting 'huge losses' because we are running a full junior set up. Please tell me why you continue to ignore the fact that SOC spent over one million of his own money in bringing the club up to scratch? That is why we posted these losses, it's money invested into the club that SOC does not expect to see returned. We are however close to a million turnover, therefore if that continues this financial year our profit / loss will not be so 'huge' as you are so quick to point out all the time. You seem to conveniently neglect this fact in order to continually suit your own agenda against us.
As for this freebies thing, we have an occasional promotion, that is all. Just like you, the vast vast majority pay to get in for every game.
At the moment your club has it right on the field but that could change, in every other area you are miles behind us and that is what grates with you really isn't it.
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| Quote ="GetThemScallyWags"You really do not like our club with these constant side swipes. I honestly cannot understand your obsession posting 'huge losses' because we are running a full junior set up. Please tell me why you continue to ignore the fact that SOC spent over one million of his own money in bringing the club up to scratch? That is why we posted these losses, it's money invested into the club that SOC does not expect to see returned. We are however close to a million turnover, therefore if that continues this financial year our profit / loss will not be so 'huge' as you are so quick to point out all the time. You seem to conveniently neglect this fact in order to continually suit your own agenda against us.
As for this freebies thing, we have an occasional promotion, that is all. Just like you, the vast vast majority pay to get in for every game.
At the moment your club has it right on the field but that could change, in every other area you are miles behind us and that is what grates with you really isn't it.'"
I pledge £10 to the Prescott fund (at it again) that Widness will report a loss for 2009/10 of > £200k.
If you disagree then match the pledge. oh and dont forget you made a loss more than your turnover last time AND 'investment' cost does NOT affect profit.
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Your point being ?
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| Quote ="wereutherein1987?"I pledge £10 to the Prescott fund (at it again) that Widness will report a loss for 2009/10 of > £200k.
If you disagree then match the pledge. oh and dont forget you made a loss more than your turnover last time AND 'investment' cost does NOT affect profit.'" Who cares we get better attendances than fax.Better youth system,stadium.Bored of the repeats now.Sleep time.zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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| Quote ="Soldierboy"Who cares we get better attendances than fax.Better youth system,stadium.Bored of the repeats now.Sleep time.zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz'"
We have a better squad and coach.
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We have a better squad and coach.
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Yeh we all know about your "better by a country mile" squad.
Remind me again what you won last year?
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| League that counts mate, and I do recall us above you..
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| Quote ="Faax!"League that counts mate, and I do recall us above you..
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League position counts for nothing if your trophy cabinet is still empty come the end of the season. Still if your happy being 'runner up' and winners of the Fairplay League then your ambitions are to be commended.
In any case, I really love how all these rival fans come on here claiming to be experts on our 'weaker than last year' squad but yet cannot back up the claims with anything....
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| Quote ="GetThemScallyWags"League position counts for nothing if your trophy cabinet is still empty come the end of the season. Still if your happy being 'runner up' and winners of the Fairplay League then your ambitions are to be commended.
We made it to a Grand Final without any real Stand off, not a bad start. Let's see how this season goes.
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| Quote ="Faax!"League that counts mate, and I do recall us above you..
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Congratulations on finishing above Widnes.Did you award yourselves a trophy for that,one of those tacky plastic things from the high street,usually awarded to pub darts players?I bet there was an open top bus parade through the town as well.
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| Quote ="GSF"Congratulations on finishing above Widnes.Did you award yourselves a trophy for that,one of those tacky plastic things from the high street,usually awarded to pub darts players?I bet there was an open top bus parade through the town as well.'"
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| Quote ="GSF"Congratulations on finishing above Widnes.Did you award yourselves a trophy for that,one of those tacky plastic things from the high street,usually awarded to pub darts players?I bet there was an open top bus parade through the town as well.'"
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| Quote ="Faax!"Quote ="GetThemScallyWags"League position counts for nothing if your trophy cabinet is still empty come the end of the season. Still if your happy being 'runner up' and winners of the Fairplay League then your ambitions are to be commended.
We made it to a Grand Final without any real Stand off, not a bad start. Let's see how this season goes.
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We won the NR Cup with a highly imbalanced squad having replaced our coach at the start of the season. Let's see how we go with Cullen's team formed in his own vision with a full off season to prepare.
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Oh really?
You dont have any youth in your squad, what are fax doing for the game in this country? feck all thats what
Your coach chokes in big games.
You dont have the crowds or grounds that we have nor do you have the infrastructure.
Fax are nothing to us.
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Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"You dont have the crowds or grounds that we have nor do you have the infrastructure.
Fax are nothing to us.'"
Your view on the crowds, I can guarantee you our crowds will be up next season. Your attendences have been slipping in recent years, and you didn't do much 'winning' last year, except for your NRC run.
And our stadium is more than suitable now, just because you have a nice stadium doesn't mean your going up, take Wakey for exaple.
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Your view on the crowds, I can guarantee you our crowds will be up next season. Your attendences have been slipping in recent years, and you didn't do much 'winning' last year, except for your NRC run.
And our stadium is more than suitable now, just because you have a nice stadium doesn't mean your going up, take Wakey for exaple.
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Fax have sold 800 season tickets so far. That says it all about your ambitions.
Our crowds slipped due to the Friday night experiment, that and the current recession. We won a cup last you didnt win jack all and choked in 2 major games.
Enjoy being the ladies of the Championship.
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